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Great Article on Coach Stowell's double firing from BU

amckillip said:
If you ask me this can pretty much be traced back to Pres Glasser. If KK's still here Coach Stowell is in the booth.
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Prez Glasser realizes a lot of the current local BU fan base, and people who attend BU games, are rapidly approaching retirement home age. There are fewer and fewer potential fans who can relate to Coach Stowell's history in the Peoria area.

My guess is JG is trying to interest a younger audience who may not have gone to BU. DA is local, young, good looking, and hopefully connects to area HS players and their families, as well as recent BU grads who stayed in the area ...

Of course BU hiring former bb players for roles in the university's athletic dept or local media can also be a useful recruiting tool for future players who are interested in a career in coaching or the media, post BU BB career.

Wonder if the reaction would have been different if 'The Singh' were announced as the new BU radio bb analyst with Dave Snell. Also, wasn't Dave Snell considered somewhat out of the box when he first debuted as BU's radio play by play guy?

He turned out pretty good, yes?
 
add up or not...you will have to ask Coach Stowell...I expect he has a reason why he has not done road games...all I have to offer is hearsay -- which is about all anyone else has...
 
Everyone seems to be falling right into place on which side of this issue they fall on. Like clockwork.

I just read the article for the first time. I don't have much of an opinion, because I really do see all sides. New regime needs to put their own stamp on things, I get it. Employer X is an institution at work, I get it. This is not at all a new problem in terms of the general workplace, except in this case articles get written about it. Usually what happens is the new regime feels trapped by the past, and flexes their muscles a little too much, then sees that error and relaxes a bit, then everyone is fine.

I remember my dad's boss coming to the house after they had kept him on much longer than they needed to, and that conversation was very difficult for both, even though they both knew that it was what was best for the company. I think they probably wished he would have retired on his own, but it wasn't happening, and they kept him on a very long time. At some point, though, you have to move on. I do not agree with the "until mentally impaired" philosophy.

I am the furthest thing from a KW defender, but this article is pretty tame when compared to his usual passive-aggressive daggers. He puts the JL thing out there so no one can accuse him of using this as a way to get at the coach again. I loved listening to Coach Stowell and will miss him on the broadcasts.

So, 4 paragraphs later, I do not really have an opinion. ;)
 
Buesch N Chips said:
I am the furthest thing from a KW defender, but this article is pretty tame when compared to his usual passive-aggressive daggers. He puts the JL thing out there so no one can accuse him of using this as a way to get at the coach again. I loved listening to Coach Stowell and will miss him on the broadcasts.
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I just don't think mentioning JL's name added anything to that article. Like I said, how many people really think the coach sitting on the hottest seat in the conference can influence Glasser and Cross on this sort of issue?
 
shaunguth said:
Not sure if you're talking about someone in particular or not, but I don't see why #1 is out of the question.
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I have on good accord that it will not be the case if someone doesn't leave on their own terms, whenever that may be. Let's hope that this is not something that has to be discussed in detail anytime soon!
 
tornado said:
(case in point...note the comment "It is not much of a secret, for example, that Stowell and head coach Jim Les have had no relationship to speak of.." then the immediate concession that such a fact had nothing to do with this!
Then the writer speculates on a "conspiracy theory" and again immediately concedes that there isn't one and the two issues are unrelated)
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shaunguth said:
I just don't think mentioning JL's name added anything to that article. Like I said, how many people really think the coach sitting on the hottest seat in the conference can influence Glasser and Cross on this sort of issue?
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If a reader has to ask himself a question about a story after they've read it then the story was not complete. Since the history between JL and Coach is known by many that question would have come up among many..... "Hmmmm, I wonder if Les had him fired?"

Don't you two know anything about journalism?!
 
Braves4Life said:
If a reader has to ask himself a question about a story after they've read it then the story was not complete. Since the history between JL and Coach is known by many that question would have come up among many..... "Hmmmm, I wonder if Les had him fired?"

Don't you two know anything about journalism?!
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So people would wonder if JL had him fired from WMBD? I would not be one of those people!
 
Braves4Life said:
.. Since the history between JL and Coach is known by many..
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said history has been known by many for several years -- so if it was an issue, why wasn't Stowell fired way back when.....?
Just sayin'....that JL had nothing to do with this despite the repeated attempts to insinuate otherwise...
 
I have a feeling that when/if the time comes to relieve Coach Les of his duties we will find out who the real hypocrites are
 
Since I am coming under attack for defending the administration (which is not exactly the case), let me state my position again-

Most people who have ever worked in any field of business have seen this phenomenon before- whenever a new CEO takes over, there are always major changes as they mold the business (in this case the university) into their own image. I have seen it with a number of businesses I have been associated with. There is usually no longer a deep loyalty to past employees as there might have been with previous administrators. So the changes at Bradley should not surprise anyone, and I expect there will be more. Recall that there were indeed many people here who called for and celebrated the change of adminstrators. I have said this before, and will reiterate it, "Be careful what you wish for".

I have the highest respect for the leaders at Bradley, and I respect and support what they are doing, and I will likely support whatever changes they make in the future, as long as I believe they are good for the university. I am a fan of Bradley University, not just a sports team, and I am not into this for my own gratification, like some fans are.

And again I will ask- how many people here had ever even heard of this Hall of Fame committee before the column by Kirk Wessler? IMO, this whole thing is a minor issue, and my only criticism was the attempt by the PJS to make it into a much biggger deal than it warrants.
 
lake Camelot said:
....you seem to be defending the administration ...
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well, what is wrong with defending the very school you claim to be a fan of?
can someone give a definition of hypocrisy??

I have one, a fan who repeatedly finds something or some reason to trash their supposed own team/school
...as if a school wants 10,000 more fans like that???

I have not agreed with everything done at or by BU but I am a fan and will not barter with my loyalty..
I was every bit as much of a fan of Jim Molinari (and still am) as I am of JL, and was surprised by Mo's firing,
yet I continued to loyally support BU. And you know what -- I think the school and its leaders appreciate fans like that.
..just sayin'...
 
Coach Stowell IS Bradley Basketball. He's a spry 83-year-old with all his faculties. He's a legend. He has earned everything he has. If he wasn't ready to move aside on his own terms, then I'm not good with this. Period.
 
Da Coach said:
Since I am coming under attack for defending the administration.
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I dont think you are necissarily coming under attack for defending the administration. With all due respect I think sometimes you bring these "attacks" on yourself by calling people hypocrites and challenging their fandom. I'm sure you can appreciate that any time a long time institution such as Coach Stowell is fired, it is going to be a sensitive issue. People will tend to overreact and look for stories that arent there. It doesnt make them hypocrites or less of a fan, just human.
 
tornado said:
said history has been known by many for several years -- so if it was an issue, why wasn't Stowell fired way back when.....?
Just sayin'....that JL had nothing to do with this despite the repeated attempts to insinuate otherwise...
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And that my friend is just what KW said he researched, found no bases of the fact and wrote in such a way to el imitate any rumors:!: Although I find it hard to believe that JL has made no comment about the issues of Coach Stowell:? (Even a thank you for all you done and wise you well) Maybe theres a gag order on JL or anyone in the Admin about coach:o

Maybe there is something to what BU fan 9 posted:
All I'm going to say is if you talk bad about Glasser you lose your job.
Today 09:36 AM
 
Out of Balance said:
Although I find it hard to believe that JL has made no comment about the issues of Coach Stowell:? (Even a thank you for all you done and wise you well) Maybe theres a gag order on JL or anyone in the Admin about coach:o
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What's more interesting is there were zero quotes from Coach Les on the schedule. I wouldn't expect quotes on this.
 
Out of Balance said:
And that my friend is just what KW said he researched, found no bases of the fact and wrote in such a way to el imitate any rumors:!: Although I find it hard to believe that JL has made no comment about the issues of Coach Stowell:? (Even a thank you for all you done and wise you well) Maybe theres a gag order on JL or anyone in the Admin about coach:o

Maybe there is something to what BU fan 9 posted:
All I'm going to say is if you talk bad about Glasser you lose your job.
Today 09:36 AM
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Jim Les did give a comment regarding the Stowell firing....
We have no way to know what all he said because he wasn't quoted directly but it went something like this...
"Les had no input on the decision and was genuinely surprised when he learned Stowell wouldn’t be working men’s games"


But we do know this from a separate source...

"Joe Stowell and Chuck Buescher are out of the WMBD-AM (1470) broadcasts..
Stowell has been shifted to do color commentary on the JMP Radio Group’s
expanded BU women’s basketball coverage. He will analyze 19 women’s
games (18 on WIRL-AM 1290) called by Ed Hammond.

“I’ve enjoyed doing the men’s games and thought I’d be doing them again
this year,” said Stowell, who has done just home games the past two
seasons. “I’m not. So I’m looking forward to doing the women’s games.”

(WMBD) ..general manager Mike Wild said he made the decision regarding the
radio talent, with the university’s approval.
“It was our call,” Wild said. “Joe indicated to me he wanted to continue what
he’d been doing, which was the home games and at (Illinois State). We felt
what was best for the broadcast was to have the same on-air talent for
every game. It didn’t make a lot of sense to be shifting talent from game to
game.”

Prior to his meeting with Wild this week, Stowell said he had expected to add
the radio analysis of women’s contests to his men’s home-game workload.
“I’ve never had a problem with Mike Wild and I still don’t,” Stowell said.
“But the opportunity wasn’t there for me to do the men’s games.”

..(Danny) Adams was chosen from a list of six candidates. His availability to
attend all the games — home and road — was an important consideration."
 
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