Great Article on Coach Stowell's double firing from BU

[tornado]

:rollbviously they can and do -- but as Da Coach noted, it's a little disingenuous when the very people who demanded changes and wanted to get the old guard out of there and getting new blood in - then complain when it happens?? I knew it was gonna happen -- just surprised it happens so much...

 

[AE Braves Fan]

I'm not one of those people that wanted big changes.

However, I would have to imagine that those people didn't have a beef with Joe Stowell of all people. So I don't really see the point DC is trying to make.

 

[Out of Balance]

It had nothing to do with budget cuts, the job has never been a high-paying job. Both Bradley and WMBD wanted a team that would be together for every game, and Coach Stowell only wants to do home games. That would make the transition with Danny Adams difficult. There are other reasons, but not worth mentioning.

I love Coach Stowell, but it was time for a change. This was the right move, long overdue, and I congratulate BU, Dave and Danny, and WMBD. I appreciate all that Coach Stowell has given to BU in the years he was employed.

KW and the PJS, as usual, are trying to create a tempest in a teapot. This is simply not that big of a deal, and the motives of KW for trying to make it one are obvious.

Why, the Hell didn't BU at lease call Dr. K. in to make it a mercy thing with no pain:? You wait tell they come to put a tag on your toe DC, I bet you won't be saying it is time and its the right move Personally I agree with everything Bravesfan posted:!: Can't beet good old common sense with respect:!:
Also DC, you lost a little here when you pointed the finger to pass the buck onto KW and the PJS, for the unprofessional conduct taken on yet another loyal and longtime BU Supporter, by the BU Admin:!::roll:

 

[tornado]

There are still plenty of ways to stay involved and support Bradley --

There are many supporters who don't ask the school to pay them or do any special favors for them..
I look forward to seeing Coach Stowell at the games supporting the team...

 

[shaunguth]

Also DC, you lost a little here when you pointed the finger to pass the buck onto KW and the PJS, for the unprofessional conduct taken on yet another loyal and longtime BU Supporter, by the BU Admin:!::roll:

But why exactly did KW have to mention that "Stowell and head coach Jim Les have had no relationship to speak of beyond their postgame radio show. Some in the Les camp believe Stowell is not supportive enough, while Stowell points out his radio job is ???analyst, not cheerleader.???

He then follows this up with "I??™m told by multiple sources, however, that Les had no input on the decision and was genuinely surprised when he learned Stowell wouldn??™t be working men??™s games."

Why does he feel the need to even mention JL's name in an article about Joe Stowell? :roll:

 

[Beninator]

hmmm...clearly there are reasons....some seem to think things happen for "no reason"...
just maybe nobody here nor writing hit pieces really knows those reasons, but hey - that never stopped anyone beofre from drawing bad conclusions....
Why can't a private organization do as they wish without always being criticized? They basically employed the man for 55 years of his life
as well as gave him the opportunity to play college ball and get an education..
I have loved Coach Stowell for the more than 40 years I have known him and yet I am not at all surprised by this and it seems pretty benign actually.
The guy is 84 years old....how many schools employ people that long and yet get ripped when he's gone?? Only one I can think of.
..reading this stuff - it sounds like Bradley's never done a thing for the man and stabbed him in the back -- couldn't be further from the truth..
BTW-- the Egyptian National basketball team also let him go decades ago -- maybe let's ask them for a reason....

I probably bash KW and the PJS more than anyone on this board. KW's article today was not a hit piece!

 

[Da Coach]

I'm not one of those people that wanted big changes.

However, I would have to imagine that those people didn't have a beef with Joe Stowell of all people. So I don't really see the point DC is trying to make.

The point is that when any school has major changes in leadership, such as a new President, and a new Athletic Director, especially when they have no connection to the University's past, we can expect there will be changes. Stowell had served on the committee since the 1960s! And he may still be asked back, as KW's column states.
I'll bet most of the people complaining about this move had never heard of this committee until Wessler's column detailed this story. It is not a committee that has any effect on policy or running of the athletic department. So I don't understand what the big deal is.

 

[Beninator]

There are still plenty of ways to stay involved and support Bradley --

There are many supporters who don't ask the school to pay them or do any special favors for them..
I look forward to seeing Coach Stowell at the games supporting the team...

Stowell bleeds Bradley red. No need to bash him!

 

[tornado]

who has bashed Stowell -- I have nothing but honor and compliments for the man --?

 

[Beninator]

The point is that when any school has major changes in leadership, such as a new President, and a new Athletic Director, especially when they have no connection to the University's past, we can expect there will be changes. Stowell had served on the committee since the 1960s! And he may still be asked back, as KW's column states.
I'll bet most of the people complaining about this move had never heard of this committee until Wessler's column detailed this story. It is not a committee that has any effect on policy or running of the athletic department. So I don't understand what the big deal is.

RE first highlighted part of your post. What I and I think others are protesting is the sheer arrogance of these decisions with little regard to someone who is a big part of BU tradition.

Re second part of highlighted part of your post: Unless some fans protest this arrogance, I doubt that BU will ask Stowell back for another term for the Hall of Fame committee.

There are classy ways to handle this situation and classless ways. So far, President Glasser and the administration are proving to me that they are dropping the ball on this and other situations!

 

[sousaman2089]

I'm trying think of a way to get an article about this in The Scout, since I'm the sports reporter, I should have some say, but there really isn't much to write about with ripping off KIrk W.

The sad truth is very few students on campus even know who Coach Stowell is.

I've been trying to get some Bradley history out through The Scout (through a Gene Melchiorre column and frequent references to old players), but it's difficult to get old stories in a "(new)spaper".

It's just sad that a man who meant soooo much to Bradley has to go out on shove out the door.

 

[tornado]

...arrogance of these decisions with little regard ..

I think there was LOTS of regard paid to these decisions...I have heard they have been in the discussions for several years about the employment situation -- which with Coach Stowell is always a bit of an uncertainty --
and out of respect and graciousness to Coach Stowell -- they basically let HIM call the shots the past several years -- pretty danged unusual considering the situation......
...letting him take many, many days off for his own needs and for his wife's...letting him work only part time and pass on the road trips, etc..
I think if all were known, you'd see that your comments are the ones that are not really fair..
this was not an example of the ax falling without due warning....
had this happened 10 years ago -- I'd probably feel differently -- but the writing was on the wall -- he was not pushed off the ledge...

 

[Beninator]

I think there was LOTS of regard paid to these decisions...I have heard they have been in the discussionions for several years -- and out of respect and graciousness to Coach Stowell -- they basically let HIM call the shots the past several eyars --
letting him take many, many days off for his own needs and for his wife's...letting him work only part time and pass on the raod trips, etc..
I think if all were known, you'd see that your comments are the ones that are not really fair..
this was not an example of the ax falling without due warning....

I am not and have not talked about the radio broadcast. see my previous posts. Additionally, many employers will accommodate an employee who needs time off for family matters. Obviously the HOF committee means something to Stowell. Why can't BU be big enough to let him stay on the committee? That would be the classy thing to do.

 

[Out of Balance]

But why exactly did KW have to mention that "Stowell and head coach Jim Les have had no relationship to speak of beyond their postgame radio show. Some in the Les camp believe Stowell is not supportive enough, while Stowell points out his radio job is “analyst, not cheerleader.”

He then follows this up with "I’m told by multiple sources, however, that Les had no input on the decision and was genuinely surprised when he learned Stowell wouldn’t be working men’s games."

Why does he feel the need to even mention JL's name in an article about Joe Stowell? :roll:

I can't talk for KW and anything the PJS publishes, friend:| I didn't take it as a swipe at Jim, as KW pointed out that he had done his leg work and that maybe the relationship between the two may not of been the best, but it had nothing to do with and did prove, Jim had done nothing to insight these moves and was surprised at the dealings:!: Jim Les is the coach, so it only makes sense to me that he would talk about Jim's reactions and if there was any fall out between the two that might of lead the BU admin. to the steps they took towards Coach Stowell:| Hell I don't know what happen friend, but I know this much blaming the local media for everything that happens on the hill, well, its just craze:roll: To me , if change was needed it could of been handled better!

 

[real fan]

It is not just the coach Stowell thing that concerns me, coach Ryan and coach Beauchem being gone is a real concern as they ran successful programs, I think the President is way to controlling .

 

[shaunguth]

I can't talk for KW and anything the PJS publishes, friend:| I didn't take it as a swipe at Jim, as KW pointed out that he had done his leg work and that maybe the relationship between the two may not of been the best, but it had nothing to do with and did prove, Jim had done nothing to insight these moves and was surprised at the dealings:!: Jim Les is the coach, so it only makes sense to me that he would talk about Jim's reactions and if there was any fall out between the two that might of lead the BU admin. to the steps they took towards Coach Stowell:| Hell I don't know what happen friend, but I know this much blaming the local media for everything that happens on the hill, well, its just craze:roll: To me , if change was needed it could of been handled better!

I know what you're saying, but I just didn't think JL's name even needed to be mentioned for Kirk to make his point regarding the Joe Stowell issue. I personally don't think the coach on the hottest seat in the conference would have an influence over the President and the new AD in this instance.

 

[Beninator]

I know what you're saying, but I just didn't think JL's name even needed to be mentioned for Kirk to make his point regarding the Joe Stowell issue. I personally don't think the coach on the hottest seat in the conference would have an influence over the President and the new AD in this instance.

I agree with OOB on this part. By including JL in the article, KW took away an argument for the rumor mill out there.

 

[Out of Balance]

I know what you're saying, but I just didn't think JL's name even needed to be mentioned for Kirk to make his point regarding the Joe Stowell issue. I personally don't think the coach on the hottest seat in the conference would have an influence over the President and the new AD in this instance.

Good Point, friend:| Who's left, Jimmy:!: If I were him, I would have one eye on her all the time and my back to the wall:!::-x

 

[amckillip]

There are still plenty of ways to stay involved and support Bradley --

There are many supporters who don't ask the school to pay them or do any special favors for them..
I look forward to seeing Coach Stowell at the games supporting the team...

Stowell bleeds Bradley red. No need to bash him!

who has bashed Stowell -- I have nothing but honor and compliments for the man --?

Sorry T, that's a swipe. Plain and Simple. I normally agree with a good portion of your posts, but you're defense of the administration lately has been a bit extreme and seemingly illogical.

It is not just the coach Stowell thing that concerns me, coach Ryan and coach Beauchem being gone is a real concern as they ran successful programs, I think the President is way to controlling .

I'd actually call this an understatement. I have a lot of respect for some things Glasser has done, and she is a HUGE improvement over Broski. However, she has little to no deference for BU history, and pays only lip-service to phrase she so often quotes - "Once a Brave, Always a Brave." I think she see's BU as a stepping stone and won't be upset when she moves along. Hopefully her legacy will be more positive than negative, but I think the scale is tipping in the wrong direction....

 

[tornado]

can you quote anything in the Wessler article that actually comes from Stowell and sounds like he's upset at anything here??

I see only ONE quote -- and since Wessler admits it is from a comment that Coach Stowell gave the PJ Star "earlier in the week" perhaps even before any of this was made public, then I am not sure the column actually has even one comment from Stowell on this subject...
but even so the one line from Coach Stowell does NOT sound bitter or negative, instead it sounds quite positive and optimistic...