After watching 10 games I can honestly say that this is a definite rebuilding season, because of all our injuries this team is a young and inconsistent , with that being said it is time to quit wasting time by trying to get our 7 ft. center to play better as when he is in the game we get outscored horribly, The best way to rebuild is to play AT and T.Brown more as they are the future, I feel bad for Theron as he plays hard but has been put in a bad position as he is not a 4.I also am tired of watching 3 players around 5-11 start as it is hard for them to guard 6-4 players who are able to shoot over them. Changes need to be made or we are looking at another play-in game in St.Louis, I realize we have a lot of key injuries but we should still have enough talent to finish in the upper half of the Valley.
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Re-Building year
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lake Camelot
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My feelings exactly. That is unless Warren and Wilkins show up. Then maybe share a little time between Thompson and the other centers. It doesn't look like that is happening though.
I'm not certain a rebuilding year is the right answer. We had superior talent against UWM as we have had against most everyone we have played this year and some of those teams have superior talent vs most valley teams. That being said we can't call it rebuilding we need to call it a replacing year. If Les doesn't produce replace him, by producing I mean beating every team in the valley with lessor talent. I watched Evansville play UNC and they don't have anybody and wll spank us so bad it will make you sick. Les needs to put it together or hit the road. This whole season has just made me sick...
MacabreMob
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What disgusts me is the junk said when we have had 3 injuries. Molinari got 1 injury and the team would tank. Les gets 3 and we want to try and figure out why the coach can't coach.
Yep - this one's gonna get edited/deleted too.
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Yep - this one's gonna get edited/deleted too.
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lake Camelot
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Yes it obviously has made you sick. You must have a fever.
SaintLouBrave22
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Geez MM.......Mo has been at three schools since then why would you bring him up now.
Seriously JL has a 12 game run that things worked out great, Other than that everything has been so so
MacabreMob
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Cause I have heard the comparison from people off the board.
People didn't want Les and have got an axe to grind - so the comparison comes up how if this were Mo - well, he'd been on the 'hot-seat' after 07 and fired after '08.
Mo finished 2nd in the conference in season 7......maybe JL will this year too.
I'm getting a little weary of hearing how we have more talent than teams that are beating our brains out. Define talent. Are we quicker? Better jumpers? Stronger? Shoot lights out in practice? I think we tend to buy in too much to all the recruiting hype. If they can't play together ... as a team ... when the lights go on, none of the above means squat. The super talent is disorganized and out of control (to say nothing about being woefully undersized for a Div. 1 team). Injuries and inexperience have a great deal to do with it, but the pre-season hype about our superior "talent" led too many of us to think we could overcome anything and still win.
SaintLouBrave22
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Agree...
Besides talent breaks down into potential and whether its realized or not....
That can be coached you know...
And it can also be ruined in the same aspect
tornado
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no it won't get deleted...it is simply a fact, we are playing much and sometimes MOST of the time with 3 freshmen and either a couple of 1st year jucos or a 2nd year player. We are going to struggle but JL has shown he can finish strong as we won 9 of our last 11 in 2005-2006, 6 of our last 9 in 2006-2007, and finished strong in the CBI last year.
The best is yet to come...
BradleyBrave
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Since it became apparent that AW wasn't going to play, this year should be all about player development. It's frustrating, but I am willing to take the lumps and see a class mature. On that note though, it's frustrating to see us making the same fundamental defensive mistakes we've been making for the last 7 years (sans 2 years when we had a defensive coach on the bench). I expect freshmen to make freshman mistakes, but not all of our guys are freshman.
While I am willing to endure development 'lumps', it infuriates me to no end that Anthony Thompson isn't getting more time. There's absolutely no reason for it, and it's going to p-ss him off to the point of leaving and going somewhere that knows how to develop a big man.
It also infuriates me that we don't make any effort to get our big men the ball on the block. We missed AT a number of times before he was banished to the bench, and only got DC the ball there a couple of times.
Basically...if we're going to develop guys...let's freaking develop them and do it the right way. I feel like we're only going halfway right now - we're letting McCain, Norris, and Brown play through mistakes, but AT gets yanked? What's up with that? I could argue pretty strongly that AT is a much more important recruit than any of those 3, yet we're doing the least to develop him.
While I am willing to endure development 'lumps', it infuriates me to no end that Anthony Thompson isn't getting more time. There's absolutely no reason for it, and it's going to p-ss him off to the point of leaving and going somewhere that knows how to develop a big man.
It also infuriates me that we don't make any effort to get our big men the ball on the block. We missed AT a number of times before he was banished to the bench, and only got DC the ball there a couple of times.
Basically...if we're going to develop guys...let's freaking develop them and do it the right way. I feel like we're only going halfway right now - we're letting McCain, Norris, and Brown play through mistakes, but AT gets yanked? What's up with that? I could argue pretty strongly that AT is a much more important recruit than any of those 3, yet we're doing the least to develop him.
What is Kool-Aid, Alex?
The reason I brought up rebuilding this season is because of the injuries to Warren and Egolf, (not because of coaching ) with Warren not playing we have lost Ruffin,Crouch,Salley, and Warren from last seasons starting lineup, you cannot replace those players so easily , we do have a lot of talent on this team but they are going to be inconsistent because they lack experience.
My concern is we are playing too many short guards and not giving AT or T.Brown enough minutes as they seem to produce when they are in the game. We also give up too many wide open 3 point shots on defense and miss a lot of open shots on offense.
My concern is we are playing too many short guards and not giving AT or T.Brown enough minutes as they seem to produce when they are in the game. We also give up too many wide open 3 point shots on defense and miss a lot of open shots on offense.
I'm not going to blame DC for the way he is playing. I believe the coaching staff needs to put the players in position where their strengths are going to shine. I still see DC as our starter right now because if used correctly he should be scoring 15 points a game. We need to use his jumper and forget that he is a 7' and should be slamming the ball in. That is not going to happen. What can happen is that he gets the ball 10' out and shoots that sweet jumper. Trying to make him a 5 on the offensive end is a mistake or insanity.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein.
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georgethedog
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I'd be feeding him (Collins) for that short jumper the whole game like SMS did when they had Danny Moore. But no, we just keep jacking up bricks from 3 point range. I am getting very tired of all the 3's.
SaintLouBrave22
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Yes, but realization is that Danny Moore did remember occasionally that he was tall and not only that, Danny Moore had pretty good hands so its really hard to make a comparison there IMO...
And yes, I agree on the assessment of the 3-ball...Maybe you should check my assessment under the stats post about our overuse of the term "moral victory"...between that, the word "privilege" and "mental toughness", there are just a few words I believe I have heard way too much of lately.
SaintLouBrave22 all we are saying is that DC would be better utilized shooting his mid-range jumper. I for one, when he is set one on one, have not seen him miss that shot. Three good things can happen now. He starts hitting that jumper, two his man has to leave the area under the basket to guard him and three they'll have to start doubling him up. That is why I'd like us to start running our O through him believe it or not. Jacking up 3s like we are doing and passing it around the perimeter is not working. Passing the ball down to him in the blocks does not work because it's not his game nor do our guards really understand how to pass to our bigs when they are posting up.
mrcoachdude
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It is not a rebuilding year....lets just win basketball games from here on out 
Play each game to win like we are supposed to......develope players?...that is part of playing the games......
I want to see what this lineup would do:
SM
DD
TW
AT
DC
Play each game to win like we are supposed to......develope players?...that is part of playing the games......
I want to see what this lineup would do:
SM
DD
TW
AT
DC