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Re-Building year

SFP said:
SaintLouBrave22 all we are saying is that DC would be better utilized shooting his mid-range jumper. I for one, when he is set one on one, have not seen him miss that shot. Three good things can happen now. He starts hitting that jumper, two his man has to leave the area under the basket to guard him and three they'll have to start doubling him up. That is why I'd like us to start running our O through him believe it or not. Jacking up 3s like we are doing and passing it around the perimeter is not working. Passing the ball down to him in the blocks does not work because it's not his game nor do our guards really understand how to pass to our bigs when they are posting up.
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Yes, but as evident if they start doubling DC we're in BIG trouble because he has yet to learn how to pass the ball....catch and shoot, catch and shoot.

I agree w/ your idea of running our O through the post, but not w/ him there...
 
in the college game, one is always rebuilding...
if you take a year off from rebuilding you find yourself at the bottom..

Personally I am about to throw up if I hear the comparison to Butler again...
just because you can find ONE mid-major among 270 non-BCS schools, that is doing well with a bunch of 1st & 2nd year guys, doesn't mean it's easy and Bradley is expected to match that performance.

Butler has been able to recruit better than most non-BCS because of several reasons...
--they are sitting right in the middle of a city of a million-plus people. Can any Valley schools say that?
--they are in the middle of one of the top 25 TV markets in America and have the possibility of more exposure than any small TV market, can any Valley team say that? (Indianapolis is #25 in TV markets)
--They've just come off a run of several fine years and a couple Sweet Sixteen appearances
--they haven't lost players to the NBA draft
--they really get favorable local media coverage, something I am sure does NOT hurt recruiting. If only Bradley could even get as nice of writeups in Peoria as Butler gets IN PEORIA!
--the midmajors they have to compete with inside their own state are located in far, far smaller cities (Evansville, Terre Haute, Muncie, etc)
Bradley battles other instate midmajors who are in much larger or comparable cities, some in and near Chicago, Bloomington, etc..
 
Couple thought before work

1)JL must see AT really stuggle against DC, otherwise he would play more
2)DC got basically ripped on TV on Saturday (needing a trip to the Wiz), and it seems justified: no player at that height should be so rebounding deficient, but to be fair, i think it just shows the lack of schooling he must have gotten in Canada
3)I don't understand how one can be rebuilding when they are 6 games under .500 in their league after 6 years.
4)The Warren loss has really hurt. But remember those minutes come away from EM or DD I would suspect....How much are you really gaining?
 
I think the loss of Andrew Warren's minutes are taken over by Darian Norris, a freshman SG who is 5-6 inches shorter, and a few were given to SM and EM to shoulder on top of their minutes they'd have alerady been getting.
 
Please, let us not compare BU to Butler, or even Creighton or SIU. There are many reasons that can be said for the results. The injuries, the facilities, the local newspaper, the size of Peoria, the television market etc., etc. Just be thankful that BU is .500 and still has a program after all of the hurdles it must get over. And remember, it's just a game....have fun!
 
srw said:
4)The Warren loss has really hurt. But remember those minutes come away from EM or DD I would suspect....How much are you really gaining?
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You'd gain quite a bit with AW on the offensive side of the ball when comparing with EM or DN.

I don't know about rebuilding being a great term, but I think it's time to let the kids play... Like everyone else, DC needs to be coming off the bench, just because it's time to see what AT's got in game action. I'd also love to see AT, TB, SS, and DC all rotating into TWO positions on the floor.
 
I love some of the ideas y'all have about starting lineups. However, if we play with those line-ups I would also like to see a change in how the offense is run. I would like to see a more traditional Bob Knight motion offense in there. His offense seems to create open men and more high percentage shots. I think this type of offense would make a big difference given our shooting woes and the many mismatches we encounter in our offensive sets.
 
Bradley gets another chance to salvage the season when the Valley season starts after Christmas. If they fail early on, then it is time to scrap the season and play for next season.

Until Bradley gets an inside game, they will always be in a rebuilding mode. The good news is that the recruiting has been focused on big men recently.
 
it's boogie time said:
Bradley gets another chance to salvage the season when the Valley season starts after Christmas. If they fail early on, then it is time to scrap the season and play for next season.

Until Bradley gets an inside game, they will always be in a rebuilding mode. The good news is that the recruiting has been focused on big men recently.
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I don't know about the fail early on thing. That has been kind of a trend of late. We do not tend to get off on the right foot when it comes to the valley season, and I don't really know if I would expect them too this year. This is the hardest beginning of the valley schedule that Bradley has had in a while and it is coming in a year where we are having some troubles. So I fully expect for that trend to continue, but you never know what could happen down the stretch like we seem to do every year also, which is why I'm not sure if we should "scrap the season" a few games after christmas.
 
I hope BU does well to start the Valley season, but I certainly don't expect it. Unless Santa brings Bradley some defense, rebounding and shooting, it's not going to happen.

The schedule at the beginning (first five games) is great in my mind. Three home games against SIU, Creighton and ISU. I realize the students are gone, but these are the three teams that the fan base can get up for. Then throw in two road games against a struggling team and a first year coached team. If you can't win home games against the better teams and you can't win road games against the projected lower division of the conference, your team has no chance of contending for a title anyway.

If this was a good Bradley team, they would get off to a great start with some meaningful wins.
 
braves12 said:
Please, let us not compare BU to Butler, or even Creighton or SIU. There are many reasons that can be said for the results. The injuries, the facilities, the local newspaper, the size of Peoria, the television market etc., etc. Just be thankful that BU is .500 and still has a program after all of the hurdles it must get over. And remember, it's just a game....have fun!
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You have me extremely confused here because everything you said about Bradley minus the injuries is 100x better than at SIU...

They do play in Carbondale remember....in poor facilities including their arena which they apparently are trying to renovate (AGAIN)...

Be thankful to be .500?! I'm sorry but thats just not good enough!

Still has a program? You act as though basketball may be cut out of the budget...may I ask what reasoning you have for these comments?

Yes Creighton may be on a higher scale, but w/ a good coaching staff that can recruit, develop players, and win games (biggest of the 3), we should have no problem competing w/ Butler...

I do recall that Butler plays in a VERY old facility...so that isn't always the reason...

1) They have won lately and quite a bit at that

2) According to current results, they have a better coaching staff

3) They have simply outrecruited us...taking players we really wanted.

4) Yes they may be in a BIGGER market in Indy, but they are also grabbing players that at one point either went to Indiana, Purdue, Notre Dame, or Cincinnati....can we honestly say we're stealing players away from Illinois, Missouri, or DePaul....I really doubt that!

In their case, they have a good young head coach that could take them around the level Gonzaga was at a few years back.


Us, I would like to hope we get their eventually, but many things need to be re-evaluated and realized before that even has a chance of occuring...


But to say we should be lucky to have a .500 team is ridiculous and insulting to our university and our fan base:!:
 
Did I really just see two posts that partially blamed the local newspaper for Bradley's lack of success? You're kidding, right? :confused: This place has gone to the loony bin.
 
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