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Great Article on Coach Stowell's double firing from BU

It is possible. That was my point. You can be OK with and somewhat advocate a change and still not be anti-JL and anti-Bradley. It's not personal.

No you can not....if you advocate a change...you are anti-JL...and if your doing it now your anti-bu..because your undermining the program as it heads into the season...doesn't have to be personal..

IMHO
 
I have a suggestion -- just that, nobody has to do it, but it's a suggestion...If you have time and inclination -- take about 30 seconds and send a short e mail to the head coach or one of the assistants...

I suggest you simply say:
"Hi, we're supporting you and BU and really appreciate all the hard work"
...or "go get 'em coach, we're pulling for BU to have a great year..."
...or "thanks for the endless hours of hard work and traveling on the road -- we enjoy the end result of all your hard work.."

........ and it's just nice go give some props where due...

Jim Les gets paid an awful lot of $$ to do his job, along with lots of other BU paid/supported perks, and local sponsorship deals. Some of that no doubt due to the endless hours of hard work and traveling on the road this type of work requires.

He gets lots of props when the team wins and the program does well from fans, the media, the administration, students. It's not like he toils without recognition or praise. Props were in order, and given profusely during the magical BU run in 2006...Perhaps not as much the last several years.

Would this be too negative?
"Hi Coach Les, Thanks for the endless hours of hard work and traveling on the road -- we enjoy the end result of all your hard work..and hope it will pay off for you, and us, with a MVC Regular Season Title, or MVC Tournament Championship, during your BU coaching career!"
BU Fans
 
Would this be too negative?
"Hi Coach Les, Thanks for the endless hours of hard work and traveling on the road -- we enjoy the end result of all your hard work..and hope it will pay off for you, and us, with a MVC Regular Season Title, or MVC Tournament Championship, during your BU coaching career!"
BU Fans

I think you were doing just fine AZ BU Fan until that last line. That's just a little to sarcastic and smarmy, IMO. I think it would show your true feelings about JL to JL. He'd see right through you.

From Coach Les' twitter- he says he was not responsable for either the HOF committee or the WMBD decisions
http://twitter.com/coachjimles/status/25836832120

Looks like Coach Les visits this site..... even if he says he doesn't. Bring us a winner Jimmy! Everybody loves a winner! :)
 
I think you were doing just fine AZ BU Fan until that last line. That's just a little to sarcastic and smarmy, IMO. I think it would show your true feelings about JL to JL. He'd see right through you.

Everybody loves a winner! :)

B4L - I believe you are correct. I am smarmy! The last line was supposed to be tongue in cheek. Something about giving props when due....

Please don't confuse my desire to see BU have more success with any personal feelings for JL. I like JL, think he is a personable guy, took BU up several levels from where they were when he took the job, has a great sense of humor, who works hard, loves BU, good family guy etc.

I would have to think JL himself would say he hasn't achieved the success at BU he envisioned and proclaimed when he took the job and that fans should expect more success from the program. I would also propose that JL would/should understand fans looking for someone else to try and take the program to an even higher level if after 9-10 years on the job he couldn't deliver a MVC title or MVC tournament title. This would be the ultimate concession to his love for BU: To acknowledge that he has taken the program up several steps and as far as he can, and that BU should look for someone who could take it to the next level. Everybody does love a winner!
 
Unfortunately there are a number of so-called 'supporters' who don't share the same loyalties you do.

I've been a "supporter" for years no matter who the coach was. I wasn't a great fan of JS as coach. I was happy when Dick V came on as coach and was disappointed when he was let go. I thought Albeck was a good choice, but changed my mind. I thought Jim Molinari did a good enough job but was very happy when Jim Les came back as coach. Guess what I'm saying is I'm a supporter of the program no matter who the coach is and I think most BU fans are. The real non-supporters are the ones who said they were going to give up their seats when Jim was hired.
 
I've been a "supporter" for years no matter who the coach was. I wasn't a great fan of JS as coach. I was happy when Dick V came on as coach and was disappointed when he was let go. I thought Albeck was a good choice, but changed my mind. I thought Jim Molinari did a good enough job but was very happy when Jim Les came back as coach. Guess what I'm saying is I'm a supporter of the program no matter who the coach is and I think most BU fans are. The real non-supporters are the ones who said they were going to give up their seats when Jim was hired.

I'm with you on this one Chico!:D
 
Looks like Coach Les visits this site..... even if he says he doesn't. Bring us a winner Jimmy! Everybody loves a winner! :)

Well, that would be a huge mistake.....

No, no (B n C), you're right.

Coach Les pays more attention to what KW and the local rag has to say about him (cause the Drive-By Media always has their finger on the pulse and always asks the tough questions providing readers with the best info to form their perceptions).

:roll:
 
Jim Les' latest tweet:

"Despite any comments/thoughts that r contrary-dnt make decisions bout committees or radio broadcasts..ill jus take the heat for losses, Thx"

:-o:twisted:

that should settle it -- I think a few people owe Coach Les an apology...

and people have a right to their opinions on this subject without being falsely called out for not being "consistent".
I kinda see "being consistent" as someone who is not guided by the facts of the situation, but instead always making the same decision because of predetermined, rigid bias...
In other words, the very people calling for "consistency" and claiming they ARE consistent while others are not, are the ones ruled by their rigid biases and predetermined grudges.
Sure they might be "consistent" but it is clear they are consistently negative and anti-Bradley in every call they make!
 
I've been a "supporter" for years no matter who the coach was. I wasn't a great fan of JS as coach. I was happy when Dick V came on as coach and was disappointed when he was let go. I thought Albeck was a good choice, but changed my mind. I thought Jim Molinari did a good enough job but was very happy when Jim Les came back as coach. Guess what I'm saying is I'm a supporter of the program no matter who the coach is and I think most BU fans are. The real non-supporters are the ones who said they were going to give up their seats when Jim was hired.

Exactly. I do not really care who is, I care about the program. If the program is doing great then that coach is doing great, but from Stowell to Stan to JL, one thing for me has been consistant, I follow and cheer for BRADLEY BASKETBALL. The coach just like the names on the back of the jersey can and do change but the front stays the same.
 
No you can not....if you advocate a change...you are anti-JL...and if your doing it now your anti-bu..because your undermining the program as it heads into the season...doesn't have to be personal..

IMHO

Wow. Really? Being "OK" with change is "anti-JL"? That is patently absurd. I do agree with your point about talking about it now given the fact the season is about to start. OK to me also means they can be OK with staying the course. OK is also a fairly passive reaction. . .a far cry from anyone "advocating" anything.

However there is an enormous chasm with being indifferent and anti-something.

When Molinari was fired, there were many fans who were OK with change but also were OK if he was allowed to continue.
 
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No you can not....if you advocate a change...you are anti-JL...and if your doing it now your anti-bu..because your undermining the program as it heads into the season...doesn't have to be personal..

IMHO

If you advocate a change in leadership in the Presidency of the United States are you "anti-America"? That's nonsense.

No 2ay does one persons beliefs/thoughts "undermine" the program. That's ridiculous.

Couldn't it be spun the other way. Can't someone be SO PRO-BU that they want to win so badly and see BU succeed that they feel a change is the only way to get that done?

Tell me the difference in the two scenarios.
 
that should settle it -- I think a few people owe Coach Les an apology...

and people have a right to their opinions on this subject without being falsely called out for not being "consistent".
I kinda see "being consistent" as someone who is not guided by the facts of the situation, but instead always making the same decision because of predetermined, rigid bias...
In other words, the very people calling for "consistency" and claiming they ARE consistent while others are not, are the ones ruled by their rigid biases and predetermined grudges.
Sure they might be "consistent" but it is clear they are consistently negative and anti-Bradley in every call they make!

Huh?
 
Just talked to Coach Stowell, he was having coffee with someone from Bradley (don't want to say who). Told him how much I enjoyed him over the years, that he will be missed and good luck:D
 
Wow. Really? Being "OK" with change is "anti-JL"? That is patently absurd. I do agree with your point about talking about it now given the fact the season is about to start. OK to me also means they can be OK with staying the course. OK is also a fairly passive reaction. . .a far cry from anyone "advocating" anything.

However there is an enormous chasm with being indifferent and anti-something.

When Molinari was fired, there were many fans who were OK with change but also were OK if he was allowed to continue.


Dude...where is my quote is the word ok used? He said advocate and that is what I said..HUGE difference...HUGE
 
Dude...where is my quote is the word ok used? He said advocate and that is what I said..HUGE difference...HUGE

No, he said "OK with and somewhat advocate" (the exact quote you referenced) which indicates only mildly favoring an opinion. Still a fairly passive statement which was twisted into "advocate" indicating actively pursuing.

So yes, you are correct, it is a HUGE difference.
 
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