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Cross quit

tornado said:
Dave Reynolds just announced it via twitter
...of course we knew this was coming and it was stated so on this board last week but a few people went freaking ballistic and demanded the talk stop...
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Honest Question, It seems very important to yourself and a couple other posters that it's clear that a story was here first, and not somewhere. In the same manner that I hold DR and KW to a level of professionalism higher than a message board, doesn't it just make sense that stuff would be on a message board sooner? There is no need to validate a story, 1 source will do, no publishing standards, etc? I'm not saying it's not nice to have it sooner etc. But when it is constantly repeated it turns the debate to that rather than the actual topic... Just like the 'we told you so' debate that stuff so quickly devolves into here. I'll be honest, I think everyone on here knows that you (and others) said there would be 'fallout' and stuff is often on here before the PJStar gets to posting it, I just think discussion would be much better if not every thread changed to one of those two discussions.

I won't belabor the point too much, but I know I personally tend to avoid posting any longer once threads reach that inevitable debate and conclusion...
 
It's just a fan message board. This is not a newspaper. Think of it more like a bunch of people talking over a water cooler at work. So I would suggest people don't get too worked up about what they see on a message board, or take it any more seriously than what you hear your co-workers talking about.

And I am less concerned about who is first in reporting anything than trying to get news to the fans that they want to know. Of course, the PJ Star has connections and a great advantage and should just about always get these stories first. In this case they missed it by a week, but it was their reaction that is odd.

What I find funny is that Dave Reynolds and the PJ Star posted with righteous indignation to tell us we were wrong when we posted the Cross story a week earlier than anyone else-
https://twitter.com/DaveReynolds2/status/564953044237180928

Then on February 16, they posted the same story, without any mention that they were reporting exactly the same thing they mocked us for reporting a week earlier!-
https://twitter.com/DaveReynolds2/status/567466254592512000
 
amckillip said:
Honest Question, It seems very important to yourself .....
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what may seem important and what is important might differ...
I really don't give much of a dang about who says what on message boards- I find it interesting but not bothersome.
...and as you would have seen in that thread last week about Cross leaving, I repeatedly said I would be cautious in discussing something of that nature until it is released officially - EVEN THOUGH the info was accurate & correct.
So maybe you quoted my post but weren't really aiming your question at me but that's the answer anyway.

...and since you mentioned what's IMPORTANT, here's what's really important to me ranked roughly in order...
-God, faith, & doing what's right
-family
-friends & others
-morality, integrity, etc...and also taught to our kids
-job and duty to country & others
-do the best you can & this extends to BU and basketball
-then somewhere down the list a ways is that I have an undying passion for Bradley basketball - always have & always will.
And since Bradley would obviously want such fans then it makes for a great match. But I want to see them win. Win every game even tho I know that's not likely - but at least strive for the best. And then I want all the other aspects - the appeal to other fans, the top level of competition, the satisfaction in our successes...etc..
-then I also like talking Bradley basketball and this is a great place to do it.
 
Illinois Wesleyan University is now hiring a new AD

"ILLINOIS WESLEYAN UNIVERSITY
FEB. 18th– IWU is looking for its next Athletic Director. IWU sponsors 22
Varsity sports with approximately 575 student-athletes and is a member of the
College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin. Candidates should electronically
submit a letter of interest, a CV, and a list of three references to Jonathan D.
Green, Provost and Dean of the Faculty [email protected] no later than 16 March 2015"
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=303058#post303058
 
speaking of IWU
they have three guys who have shot two or more 3-pointers per game and who average better than 42.5%

Two of them have shot many more..
Jordan Nelson 51-120, 42.5%
Bryce Dolan 52-114, 45.6%
and they shoot 40% as a team and win way more often that they lose
 
tornado said:
what may seem important and what is important might differ...
I really don't give much of a dang about who says what on message boards- I find it interesting but not bothersome.
...and as you would have seen in that thread last week about Cross leaving, I repeatedly said I would be cautious in discussing something of that nature until it is released officially - EVEN THOUGH the info was accurate & correct.
So maybe you quoted my post but weren't really aiming your question at me but that's the answer anyway.

...and since you mentioned what's IMPORTANT, here's what's really important to me ranked roughly in order...
-God, faith, & doing what's right
-family
-friends & others
-morality, integrity, etc...and also taught to our kids
-job and duty to country & others
-do the best you can & this extends to BU and basketball
-then somewhere down the list a ways is that I have an undying passion for Bradley basketball - always have & always will.
And since Bradley would obviously want such fans then it makes for a great match. But I want to see them win. Win every game even tho I know that's not likely - but at least strive for the best. And then I want all the other aspects - the appeal to other fans, the top level of competition, the satisfaction in our successes...etc..
-then I also like talking Bradley basketball and this is a great place to do it.
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I am referring to importance with respect to Bradley Basketball - I believe you knew that. I guess my only point is that at one point this board was a great place to discuss BU Basketball, and about 5 years ago it degenerated to name-calling, it's been up and down since. I don't particularly see the value is saying X was right, X was wrong, X was first - that's a urinating contest and I'd rather talk basketball. We're hopefully at a significant turning point for BU BBall and I don't see the point in dwelling on that kind of stuff.
 
the spats exist on all forums...people just have differences of opinions, that shouldn't bother anyone, but...
I just find that the spats are 2% of content here while 98% of content elsewhere.
If you claim otherwise- please find me an example of a 700 page thread here that is nothing but immature attacks, name calling and crybaby-stuff.
And... you won't find a 20 page "Fire Geno" thread here either filled with posts by people who swear they are never coming back to post again then they come right back to post again. :roll:
 
I agree about this- We should focus more on what the future holds for Bradley now that things are destined to change drastically, something we here have been calling for a long time.

But, I disagree with you in this sense- IMO, pointing out failures, which many fans have been doing here, in other forums, and in other ways (other message boards, letters to the editors, letters to the BOT, dropping season tickets and donations, etc.) was important while things were going down the drain, especially since those in charge at Bradley refused to acknowledge it. Instead, in addition to refusing to acknowledge their failures, they insisted on extending contracts for those who were failing, and doubling and tripling spending on failing policies. Also, BU officials even tried to shut down those who pointed out the failures (i.e. I was asked personally by Dr. Cross to shut down this board when criticism got a little too hot), and while the local media played lapdog and continuously kept whitewashing over the failures and stroking those in charge.

In fact, as an example of how complicit the PJ Star has been in these abysmal failures, this one single article by Dave Reynolds announcing the resignation of Dr. Cross on Feb. 16-
http://www.pjstar.com/article/20150216/SPORTS/150219345/12701/SPORTS

That one article points out more of the failures of BU athletics in the past few years than all the other articles and column the PJ Star has published in the last 5 years combined (and it still omits most of them!)!

Where were they while Rome was burning?
So, if not for these other forums and ways for the loyal, generous, and caring BU fans to express their disgust and point out the failings in the face of BU and the PJ Star telling everyone how great everything was, I guarantee things would not be getting fixed now.
 
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