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Coach Jim Les' Future

Coach Jim Les' Future

  • JL will be here for life

    Votes: 4 3.1%

  • JL has one more year to prove himself

    Votes: 95 74.8%

  • BU will have a new coach next year

    Votes: 26 20.5%

  • No opinion at all

    Votes: 2 1.6%
  • Total voters
    127
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Buesch N Chips said:
Because we've been having that debate for 9 years. Hundreds of times. There is nothing more to say.
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I understand that, but he just coached the final game of his 9th season. It has to be more relevant now than ever before. I don't think too many people were debating this after the Sweet 16 and NIT seasons.
 
I actually think Jim would be better oof if he got paid for his 3 more years and left. Why should he put up with this kind of crap every year from people who have never coached a game in their lives.I think he deserves another year. God help Bradley if they fire him and bring in someone who doesn't know a thing about Bradley. We already have too many people in charge who know nothing about Bradleys history.
 
Old Coach said:
I understand that, but he just coached the final game of his 9th season. It has to be more relevant now than ever before. I don't think too many people were debating this after the Sweet 16 and NIT seasons.
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Sure. It's the perfect time to discuss it. I just don't think there is any more to say. I'm not sure there is a perspective that I have not heard or an opinion that someone has not shared. But, if you want to add something fresh, I will listen.
 
Old Coach said:
Why couldn't he be compassionately dismissed now?
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Because too many people would question "what if". What if we gave Les that one extra year with a full contingent of his players and high quality new recruits.......
Especially if Les' replacement really turned out to suck.
 
SFP said:
The year ended and I feel good about the program going forward with JL. I honestly was back and forth on how I felt but at the end of the day he did as good as he could with the circumstances he was dealt. I know others feel different but let's not get out of control and start slamming. We have no control what will happen and let's see what the powers to be will do before we have an all out discussion. I do though want to run a poll of what you believe will happen not what you want to happen, with zero discussion.
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If you would have told me back in oct. JL would go to Stl beat DU and score 56 pts vs WSU i would wonder what you were thinkin I have to give hats off to jim great season
 
BU Bill said:
I actually think Jim would be better oof if he got paid for his 3 more years and left. Why should he put up with this kind of crap every year from people who have never coached a game in their lives.I think he deserves another year. God help Bradley if they fire him and bring in someone who doesn't know a thing about Bradley. We already have too many people in charge who know nothing about Bradleys history.
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What did Dick Versace know about Bradley's history before he got here? Being a Bradley guy is overrated. Thad Matta wasn't a tOSU guy. Coach K wasn't a Duke guy. Heck, John Wooden wasn't even a UCLA guy.
 
SFP said:
The year ended and I feel good about the program going forward with JL. I honestly was back and forth on how I felt but at the end of the day he did as good as he could with the circumstances he was dealt. I know others feel different but let's not get out of control and start slamming. We have no control what will happen and let's see what the powers to be will do before we have an all out discussion. I do though want to run a poll of what you believe will happen not what you want to happen, with zero discussion.
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Well said, and I voted in the majority on the poll saying that he will have at least one more year to prove himself. However, perhaps you should have added one additional category: "between one more year and life"! :D I don't believe he has earned a "lifetime" contract yet, but a couple of more NIT's or better the next three years and who knows. :)
 
I think it would definitely be a plus to be familiar with Bradley and their history, but that's just me.
 
BU Bill said:
I actually think Jim would be better oof if he got paid for his 3 more years and left. Why should he put up with this kind of crap every year from people who have never coached a game in their lives.I think he deserves another year. God help Bradley if they fire him and bring in someone who doesn't know a thing about Bradley. We already have too many people in charge who know nothing about Bradleys history.
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Because no matter who coaches where, there will always be this kind of crap from certain critics of the team.

Even the best coaches in the game are not immune to criticism. There was definitely a very vocal minority of people that even wanted Coach K gone from Duke up until last year due to the fact that he hadn't won a national championship in a decade, and aggrevated even more by his streak of quick exits from the tourney. So no matter if Les gets to stay here at least one more year or if he ends up coaching a grade school team, he and everyone else in the coach fraternity will always have critics who think they know better, no matter where they coach.
 
BU Bill said:
God help Bradley if they fire him and bring in someone who doesn't know a thing about Bradley. We already have too many people in charge who know nothing about Bradleys history.
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Or they bring in someone who doesnt rest on the laurels of BU history and knows a thing or 2 about winning and the modern game. History is exactly that, history. Yes its great, yes its important. Is it the most important? Absolutely not, and if you think it is, well you have alot to learn about todays college basketball. Molinari and Versace werent BU guys, and recently those are the 2 most successful coaches we have had at BU, outside a 6 week stretch in March in 2006.

Hiring an alum is possibly the worst thing BU could do, IMO, IF JL is not back next season. Hiring an alum means he already has ties to the university, which in turn means difficult scenarios and possible hard feelings if things dont go as planned. Id rather have someone who will win, I dont care where they come from, well except ISU(but they dont know anything about winning anyway :lol:)

The problem with the "what if" scenario is that if we get more of the same with the returning roster the "what if" scenario gets flipped. Do I think Jim deserves another year, maybe. But I will let the people who are qualified and paid the big bucks to make those types of decisions.
 
Bravesfan said:
Because no matter who coaches where, there will always be this kind of crap from certain critics of the team.

Even the best coaches in the game are not immune to criticism. There was definitely a very vocal minority of people that even wanted Coach K gone from Duke up until last year due to the fact that he hadn't won a national championship in a decade, and aggrevated even more by his streak of quick exits from the tourney. So no matter if Les gets to stay here at least one more year or if he ends up coaching a grade school team, he and everyone else in the coach fraternity will always have critics who think they know better, no matter where they coach.
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I don't think it's about knowing better. For me it's about expecting better results from the program.
 
Da Coach said:
I think it would definitely be a plus to be familiar with Bradley and their history, but that's just me.
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Familiar with the history, yes, "a Bradley guy", not necessarily

Being familiar with the history is different than being a "Bradley guy"
 
How about creating some history of your own to stand on?

Heck, JL has done that!


While most know what camp I was in, I will say that JL really impressed me with his post game address and the speech actually got to me...


If nothing else he has shown a great amount of class when faced with so much adversity...

If this is the end, I congratulate him on going out the right way...


If not, let's get it cranked up for next year on Monday :-)
 
jrish12 said:
Familiar with the history, yes, "a Bradley guy", not necessarily

Being familiar with the history is different than being a "Bradley guy"
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Agreed. When planning you can't focus on the past it doesn't matter, what's important is the future. We do need someone who is inline with what entails being a Brave and not everything revolves around what goes on on the court, but at the end of the day we need the best guy for the job.

Not my decision if JL is that guy or not, but whoever it is I think he has a load of talent to start the year next year.
 
What I believe will happen and what I would prefer to see happen are two diffferent things. I don't see the program moving forward under the current leadership. If JL is retained, I hope for his sake that SM and TB can come back healthy and help lead this program to where it deserves to be.
 
BU Bill said:
I actually think Jim would be better oof if he got paid for his 3 more years and left. Why should he put up with this kind of crap every year from people who have never coached a game in their lives.I think he deserves another year. God help Bradley if they fire him and bring in someone who doesn't know a thing about Bradley. We already have too many people in charge who know nothing about Bradleys history.
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His job as a head basketball coach means he is going to be critiqued, He is well paid for it. Some things may not be fair "injuries" But if that was to bother him he needs to find a new job. I am not saying it does bother him, I really don't know. I just see that it bothers you. That is the job he has.
 
When SM and TB became out for the season, the season was going to depend much on JL's ability to coach and to get the most out of his players. In that regard, his performance was woeful up until the last 5-6 games. His player rotations became a little, but not much, better, the players played harder, and we started winning games when we were the better team. Losing games to better teams (like last night) didn't bother me , but giving away several games that we should have won were very frustrating. There were several points during the year where I would have liked to have seen JL leave immediately and let JP take over the team.

That said, I would give him one more year with very specific performance targets. Even without TB, the team stated 4-0 before SM became clearly hobbled with his bad ankle. Without injuries, I'm pretty sure the team would have finished in the upper half of the conference. We also give JL poor marks on player development, but DSE and JP clearly emerged this year. AT and MK are still frustrating questions. Are they poor players, or are they not getting a fair chance to play in games and develop like DSE and JP?

If JL does get one more year, I think it will take more than having a healthy roster for the Braves to finish in the top 3 of the conference. He is going to have to reassess his coaching approach and style in the off-season if he is going to survive more than one year. Plus, if the Braves are a .500 team after the first 10-12 games, I would send him packing and let JP become the interim head coach and see if we have the answer to our coaching needs already on the bench.
 
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