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Pantagraph column calls ISU season a "failure"

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I like the way he is thinking!You should want your program at the top of the valley and in the big dance..Sitting back and saying oh! we are in the post season again NIT or CBI,CI common the real tourney NCAA not mediocrity again....That is our problem accepting just the post season and not the dance is a problem in IMO...I say if we are not in the NCAA tourney next year we need to evaluate our coaching staff top to bottom!! Ticket prices have went up since 06.. What do we have to show for it 2 subpar tourneys? The product put on the floor the last 2 years has been fun to watch at times and terrible also...After all the hype the last 2 years and the hike in prices it is ok to demand an MVC title and a bid to the NCAA tourney...Not hey! were are in the post season again in some rum dumb tourney that they are trying to force on all mid majors...Do not fall into the BCS trap..Let's demand more out of our program they want it from us seasoon ticket holders!!If the ISU fans want more out of their team,we should be demanding the same from ours!!! GO BU!!
 
Toyota12 said:
I like the way he is thinking!You should want your program at the top of the valley and in the big dance..Sitting back and saying oh! we are in the post season again NIT or CBI,CI common the real tourney NCAA not mediocrity again....That is our problem accepting just the post season and not the dance is a problem in IMO
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I am not sure you (or perhaps I) interpreted his column correctly. In my mind, he is saying you must put the disappointment in perspective. The Redbirds have come a long way in two years and will play in back-to-back NITs, after only a single NIT post-season appearance in 8 years.

"So while you chew on Sunday??™s defeat, still struggling to digest it, take a moment to consider the alternative. Remember how it felt to be sent home on Thursday night. Recall what it was like to play a bit part in the Valley??™s annual St. Louis production.

Give perspective a chance.

It can??™t change outcomes, but can do wonders for how you view opportunities.

Playing on Sunday, on CBS, and with an NCAA bid on the line, should not be taken for granted."

I think he is saying fans should be pleased with the progress and note the contrast to just two years ago.

How quickly we forget.
 
If you read beyond the headline, I don't think he was calling the season a failure (hence, why it was in quotes in the title as well).
 
I'm not sure what was so harsh about the article. Kendrid focused more on the big picture than anything. ISU's goal was to reach the NCAA tournament and they didn't make it. Unlike grade school, they don't give trophies out for second place.
 
Several of my ISU fan-friends are also looking at their season as a "failure"--considering they are 49-19 the past two years under Jankovich, on the NCAA bubble and hosting NIT games, I think "failure" is pretty harsh. We have been 39-31 the past two years, not on the bubble or even in the NIT...I agree--ticket price increases, hype galore, but no sniff of the NCAA's--in Barack's words--"It's time for CHANGE"
 
it's boogie time said:
I'm not sure what was so harsh about the article. Kendrid focused more on the big picture than anything. ISU's goal was to reach the NCAA tournament and they didn't make it. Unlike grade school, they don't give trophies out for second place.
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Yet some would have us celebrating CBI banners.
 
CubbieBear said:
Several of my ISU fan-friends are also looking at their season as a "failure"--considering they are 49-19 the past two years under Jankovich, on the NCAA bubble and hosting NIT games, I think "failure" is pretty harsh. We have been 39-31 the past two years, not on the bubble or even in the NIT...I agree--ticket price increases, hype galore, but no sniff of the NCAA's--in Barack's words--"It's time for CHANGE"
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If they're lucky!
 
They had very public NCAA aspirations, and had an average conference season, didn't win the tournament, and have no chance of getting to the NCAA's. They also had no real injury problems or departures. A failure might be a little harsh, but I would say major disappointment is appropriate.
 
My favorite moment of the season on Valleytalk was when one of the ISU fans posted that they had bigger fish to fry after they lost to us. I asked what those bigger fish were, getting ready for the NIT? I guess I was correct.
 
lake Camelot said:
My favorite moment of the season on Valleytalk was when one of the ISU fans posted that they had bigger fish to fry after they lost to us. I asked what those bigger fish were, getting ready for the NIT? I guess I was correct.
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Apparently it wasn't Niagara or UNI.
 
if you read beyond the headline, you'd quickly realize that he is not calling ISU's season a failure at all. he is, in fact, criticizing the fans for so quickly calling it a failure and telling them to have some perspective.
 
I figured this did not deserve its own thread but.....


...ISU players have been told they are playing @ Georgetown in game one of the NIT... I am not sure who told them (assuming the coaches)... or how they know that... or anything...but that is the word from the players...
 
RedbirdFan21 said:
I figured this did not deserve its own thread but.....


...ISU players have been told they are playing @ Georgetown in game one of the NIT... I am not sure who told them (assuming the coaches)... or how they know that... or anything...but that is the word from the players...
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GT had a trerrible year and they are hosting? A higher seed then ISU??? Just makes you wonder. They do play in a really nice arena. Well for the Valley sake I hope ISU takes them to the cleaners if this is true.
 
ISU was 1 shot in regulation away from winning the conf. tour. and going to the ncaa tour; I don"t see that as a failure , if the Georgetown thing is true then they will have been screwed because they should be playing at home with their record .
 
I think the big picture for Redbird fans to take from this article (and just the grand scheme in general) is to look where we are now, compared to where we were just a few short years ago. What would you rather have? It was not long ago at all where we were just hoping to eek out a .500 season or avoid the play-in game. For much of this decade, enthusiasm was very little, attendance was the worst in school history, we often had no belief we could win on the road, etc etc.

Now we turn in consecutive 24 win seasons, consecutive top-3 reg season finishes, and consecutive tourney final appearances. Attendance & enthusiasm are back up. Rivalries with BU and SIU have been rekindled to the maximum. We've been very close to making the Dance twice. Sure the "close but no cigar" feeling sucks, especially this year when we were basically were 1 play away. But looking at things now in comparison to where it was...it's a no brainer. Sure we all want to go to the Big Dance and in a way it's twice as hard to deal with missing it when your super close as opposed to being not close at all, but still. I just hope our fans don't end up turning on Jankovich the way, oh, say MSU fans turned on Hinson.
 
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