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Max B. again

Lakeview Brave said:
I havent seen him play but off the top of my head you think he is in the same league as

Marcus
Sergio
Mark Vershaw
Brian Randle
Cellus

Im sure im missing many but if he is in the league with these guys than i really hope he comes to Bradley.
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marcus-yes MB has a power game equal to or better than MG. MG was longer but not as explosive as MB.

sergio-yes Bigger body and more of a post player than SG. Serg was really a wing player

vershaw-close MV is an underrated offensive threat. Very long and athletic. MB is definitely stronger, not as refined as MV in terms of post moves yet, though.

randle-BR was more fluid than MB, but again, MB stronger on the boards

cellus- Can't really compare, MS was really a wing 3. If we're talking about MS vs. MB at 4 or 5, I'll take MB

Biefeldt and Prosser are both two of the most physical bigs in terms of aggressive rebounding and low block play out of this area in a long time. I think they stack up with this list.
 
Da Coach said:
I see no way Max can play the 4 or 5 in the Big Ten like he does at PND. Will he be able to alter his game enough? Will they ask him to redshirt?
Of the other kids Bruce Weber has committed for 2011, 4 of them are listed as forwards, so will Max be able to get any playing time with them and Griffey, Richmond, and Leonard?-
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=8&cfg=bb&toinid=405&yr=2011
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With all due respect, I disagree. The Big 10 is all about strong post play. What is hurting the Illini now is their lack of strength at 4 and 5. When you get in there with strong post teams like Wisconsin or Ohio St. you get hammered down low. Leonard and Richmond are showing capable of providing that in the next few years, but MB would be a nice addition and could probably gain playing time at least by his Soph. year. Honestly though, I think he'd better off at a place like Michigan, a sort of slow down team who looks like they could use a 4 or 5. MB just the type of player who can flourish at those spots in the Big 10. It's a great fit.
 
tornado said:
Let me just relate a story to show how Max has proven a lot of people wrong..

Back when Max was a freshman I was watching him play sitting in among a group of well known people with college connections......
Back then, Max was a relatively skinny kid with undeveloped skills, had long, shaggy, floppy hair, and at times looked like he really ought to just play JV ball...
but there was no denying his energy and attitude....

But some of the things that I heard those college coaches saying were to the effect that he'd never be big enough or skilled enough and was not ever going to be a college player....in other words -- there were a whole lot of doubters.
I am happy to see Max has silenced most of his doubters...and good for him that he's picking up plenty of college offers.
I doubt there is a single player in the state who is more valuable to the success of his team than Max is...thus by some measure he's the MVP which should translate into Mr. Basketball.
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Good post.
 
runninfiend said:
marcus-yes MB has a power game equal to or better than MG. MG was longer but not as explosive as MB.

sergio-yes Bigger body and more of a post player than SG. Serg was really a wing player

vershaw-close MV is an underrated offensive threat. Very long and athletic. MB is definitely stronger, not as refined as MV in terms of post moves yet, though.

randle-BR was more fluid than MB, but again, MB stronger on the boards

cellus- Can't really compare, MS was really a wing 3. If we're talking about MS vs. MB at 4 or 5, I'll take MB

Biefeldt and Prosser are both two of the most physical bigs in terms of aggressive rebounding and low block play out of this area in a long time. I think they stack up with this list.
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Ive only seen one game of Biefieldts, but to put him in league with any of those players is HUGE stretch IMO, many went on the be All-Big Ten caliber players, were major contributors on teams the made deep runs in the tourney or were top 10 in the country teams. I don't see that in the cards for MB. Put a 6'9" big body on him and I don't think he would do well at all. The transfer from PND to Big Ten is, to say the least, extremely dramatic. I would be surprised if MB gets too many high major offers, he would do well to choose a mid-major program where he could go up against less talented less muscular big men
 
amckillip said:
Ive only seen one game of Biefieldts, but to put him in league with any of those players is HUGE stretch IMO, many went on the be All-Big Ten caliber players, were major contributors on teams the made deep runs in the tourney or were top 10 in the country teams. I don't see that in the cards for MB. Put a 6'9" big body on him and I don't think he would do well at all. The transfer from PND to Big Ten is, to say the least, extremely dramatic. I would be surprised if MB gets too many high major offers, he would do well to choose a mid-major program where he could go up against less talented less muscular big men
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Watch out amckillip, you are going against the Max hype! Don't get me wrong, I am sure that Max is a good kid and I know he is from a good family, but the hype that people have placed on this kids' basketball skills is unreal!
 
amckillip said:
Ive only seen one game of Biefieldts, but to put him in league with any of those players is HUGE stretch IMO, many went on the be All-Big Ten caliber players, were major contributors on teams the made deep runs in the tourney or were top 10 in the country teams. I don't see that in the cards for MB. Put a 6'9" big body on him and I don't think he would do well at all. The transfer from PND to Big Ten is, to say the least, extremely dramatic. I would be surprised if MB gets too many high major offers, he would do well to choose a mid-major program where he could go up against less talented less muscular big men
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Amen!
 
runninfiend said:
marcus-yes MB has a power game equal to or better than MG. MG was longer but not as explosive as MB.


randle-BR was more fluid than MB, but again, MB stronger on the boards
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Marcus Griffin would have been an NBA player if his knees weren't similar to an 80 year old man.

Brian was a wing.
 
I wonder who it was that offered Max? Since we don't have a head coach as of right now, who do you think extended the offer? Was it "transition coach" Scott, or one of the other coaches that are "currently weighing their options"?
 
amckillip said:
This is hilarious. Weakest, most ill-timed offer if true. We're offering scholarships and don't even have a coach? Let's see how many times we can make ourselves look Busch-league in one week.
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You serious mckillip? :? What do you propose we do? Go fetal and say the sky is falling? Gimme a break Jake! :mad:
 
Braves4Life said:
You serious mckillip? :? What do you propose we do? Go fetal and say the sky is falling? Gimme a break Jake! :mad:
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Hire a coach - I'm dead serious. What was our sell? "We don't have a coach, don't know who it'll be, who will still be on the staff, no idea if/how many players are transferring, have no idea if you'd get playing time, but we're sure you'll love it here!"

Come on, think about why a kid would choose a school and how coaches make offers. That just makes us look dumb and desperate to every recruit.
 
amckillip said:
Hire a coach - I'm dead serious. What was our sell? "We don't have a coach, don't know who it'll be, who will still be on the staff, no idea if/how many players are transferring, have no idea if you'd get playing time, but we're sure you'll love it here!"

Come on, think about why a kid would choose a school and how coaches make offers. That just makes us look dumb and desperate to every recruit.
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I am guessing there is a belief by people on the hilltop that the only reason we did not offer Max is because of Jim Les, and I think someone might be trying to do damage control, under the impression (for some reason) that Max might be waiting for an offer.

Weird timing, but someone is trying to keep the ship from sinking. I respect that.
 
Beninator said:
The question that I have is, who in the holy h### is out there recruiting for us at this time?
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I don't care who's doing the recruiting Beni. It sounds like this kid wanted to come to BU but no one ever made the offer. I'm sure the Administration has a vision of what they want and part of that must be getting high quality and high caliber kids like Donivine, DSE, Prosser, and now Max.

And who ever said the coach needs to make the offer. We're obviously selling the value of BU and the vision for the program..... I like that!! GO BU!! :!:
 
I thought if SM and TB come back that we didn't have enough scholarships to go around next year. If SM doesn't come back then we are at the right amount. How do we have one to offer MB? Somebody must know something that is not public knowledge. Makes you wonder.
 
Beninator said:
The question that I have is, who in the holy h### is out there recruiting for us at this time?
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(in fake robot voice)

I am Renaissance Coliseumbot 5000...I need no what you call "head coach" to guide me...I am self-sustaining...With merely the sweetness of my practice facilities I can draw new recruits all by myself...I am bigger than the programmmmmmmmmmm....
 
Big Lance said:
(in fake robot voice)

I am Renaissance Coliseumbot 5000...I need no what you call "head coach" to guide me...I am self-sustaining...With merely the sweetness of my practice facilities I can draw new recruits all by myself...I am bigger than the programmmmmmmmmmm....
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I really enjoyed this post
 
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