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I have a correction for Dave Reynolds...

his line in today's column...LINK
"Bradley athletics lost nearly $18 million over the past three years"

is incorrect....
recall, that the losses were intentionally UNDERSTATED and hidden in the May 2014 reports...
and that BEFORE the more accurate figures were made known, this is what was said....
The losses in the Department of Athletics are:
2011-12 $5.915 million
2012-13 $5.940 million
2013-14 $5.800 million
BUT!!!!......... this is the figure that was found to be FALSE, and is actually
$7.1 million
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=24512&highlight=$7.1+million&page=2
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=302850&highlight=$7.1+million#post302850

Here is the quote from the committee report made available to the Board late November:
" the actual Athletics loss ballooned to over $7.1 million in 2013-14"
..(and it might be noted that a couple people were specifically reprimanded by the board for providing misleading info - and I think some of those people will be included in the housecleaning)


so the total losses are not $18 million over 3 years but actually $19 million
 
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Lefty ,after reading some post on another board ,I wanted to come back to this post to read what we had posted that ruffled so many feathers. I know it had something to do with the difference between getting fired and retiring and how it was reported but guess what. Poof the magic dragon appeared and they were gone like the wind. I guess not all people's opinion matters.
 
No, the board has always had a policy against flaming and posting off-topic stuff. Thousands of fans come here to read the info that even the PJ Star doesn't have, or refuses to print. What has been posted here about this topic has turned out to be 100% accurate.
When we get complaints from posters about numerous off-topic posts that muddle up a significant topic that is of high interest, then those posts will be removed. Don't feel so picked-on, many of them were my own posts.

But one other policy still stands- if someone does not like the opinions and facts posted here, they are encouraged to ignore or stay away. We do not welcome posters butting in on topics just to tell someone else they don't like what they are saying or telling them that they can't say it, or lecturing moderators on how the board should be run.

I will also warn, that if the parsing and picky haggling over choice of words or punctuation, or the criticism of moderating starts again, those posts will be removed.
 
wily coyote said:
Lefty ,after reading some post on another board ,I wanted to come back to this post to read what we had posted that ruffled so many feathers. I know it had something to do with the difference between getting fired and retiring and how it was reported but guess what. Poof the magic dragon appeared and they were gone like the wind. I guess not all people's opinion matters.
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It's fine really wily. I really didn't mean to create a firestorm but sometimes we really get caught up in it all when opinions differ......


Probably what happens when controversy off the court is discussed more than play on the court.......
 
lefty said:
It's fine really wily. I really didn't mean to create a firestorm but sometimes we really get caught up in it all when opinions differ......


Probably what happens when controversy off the court is discussed more than play on the court.......
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One thing I think we can ALL agree on is the play on the court leaves a whole lot to be desired.
 
A lot of people are disagreeing with different topics on this board but there is one constant that runs thru all this: we all have a passion for Bradley basketball and want to see it succeed. The Bradley family!!!
 
President Joanne K. Glasser thanked Dr. Cross for his service to the University and his commitment to academic and championship success.

If "championship" is reserved for the classroom, then maybe this fits.
 
and why is signing a "partnership deal with adidas" such a big deal?
Doesn't every single DI school have such a deal and don't the shoe/apparel companies come crawling to us and bid for the deal?
 
tornado said:
and why is signing a "partnership deal with adidas" such a big deal?
Doesn't every single DI school have such a deal and don't the shoe/apparel companies come crawling to us and bid for the deal?
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I never understood why Bradley didn't have an all-inclusive shoe and apparel contract prior to the agreement with Adidas. Obviously, when you work exclusively with one company, it's much more favorable financially than when every sport is working their own individual deals.
 
....but the amount of $$ we could command for any kind of sports or apparel deal would be proportionate to:

- how big of a fan base we have
- how many of our games are on TV
- how many butts we put into the seats
- how much appeal we have outside our own area
- how well known we are especially in big markets like Chicago, NY...
- and how much winning and post-season success we have....

so - if we drop like a lead balloon in every one of those yardstick areas- then didn't that hurt us FAR worse than any shrewd marketing deal we swung with adidas benefitted us?
Had we put a little more savvy & effort into getting better in all those areas- the major apparel guys would have come fighting each other for our business.
 
tornado said:
and why is signing a "partnership deal with adidas" such a big deal?
Doesn't every single DI school have such a deal and don't the shoe/apparel companies come crawling to us and bid for the deal?
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I do not know the financial figures Bradley got from Adidas when they entered into a contract with them. As a result I am not in a position to say Bradley made a mistake by entering into an agreement. I am fairly certain that entering into an agreement, brought some significant financial benefits or they would not have done it. I think the apparel and shoes they have are nice looking and I'm not going to quit buying it because it isn't Nike. Not all D-I schools enter into contracts for apparel and shoes. Some of the lower mid majors get discounts on their shoes but are not required to have all players wear the same brand. It all depends how the contracts read.

How do we know they didn't get the best deal they could?
 
let's say they did get the best deal "they could" - that's what I am worried about...
had we spent a little effort on those other things you don't think we could have been in far better position to get a better deal?
Just sayin' ...
If our Athletics Dept lost $7.1 million in the past year & if that's the worst financial year our Athletic Dept. has ever, ever had...then we sure as heck can't be making a killing off adidas...
 
tornado said:
....but the amount of $$ we could command for any kind of sports or apparel deal would be proportionate to:

- how big of a fan base we have
- how many of our games are on TV
- how many butts we put into the seats
- how much appeal we have outside our own area
- how well known we are especially in big markets like Chicago, NY...
- and how much winning and post-season success we have....

so - if we drop like a lead balloon in every one of those yardstick areas- then didn't that hurt us FAR worse than any shrewd marketing deal we swung with adidas benefitted us?
Had we put a little more savvy & effort into getting better in all those areas- the major apparel guys would have come fighting each other for our business.
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I'd like to think that those things aren't mutually exclusive.
 
tornado said:
let's say they did get the best deal "they could" - that's what I am worried about...
had we spent a little effort on those other things you don't think we could have been in far better position to get a better deal?
Just sayin' ...
If our Athletics Dept lost $7.1 million in the past year & if that's the worst financial year our Athletic Dept. has ever, ever had...then we sure as heck can't be making a killing off adidas...
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Universities do not agree to contracts with apparel and shoe companies, with the expectation of making a killing and using it to balance their athletic budgets. Most schools use them to reduce the expenditures of shoes and uniforms for all school sports. In some instances, the apparel and shoe companies do make donations to the general scholarship funds. In addition, the schools make additional revenues from merchandise sold from those said companies in book stores, on line and at game venues. The university pays for the merchandise it sells.

If this is the best deal the university could get, I commend them for making it. It's better than accepting a lesser deal.
 
wily coyote said:
One thing I think we can ALL agree on is the play on the court leaves a whole lot to be desired.
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Wily, I think 'whole lot' could have been emphasized. However, maybe your way is better. I think we are highly discouraged.

I know that in all previous years I have hated to see the season end. (Take my word for it that is a lot of seasons.) However, now I wonder if we are just looking forward to the end of the season to see what happens. Regardless, we are all Bradley fans who hope BU is considerably better
 
LongTimeFan said:
Wily, I think 'whole lot' could have been emphasized. However, maybe your way is better. I think we are highly discouraged.

I know that in all previous years I have hated to see the season end. (Take my word for it that is a lot of seasons.) However, now I wonder if we are just looking forward to the end of the season to see what happens. Regardless, we are all Bradley fans who hope BU is considerably better
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