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BU still looking for another game.

I think Arizona St still has an open date. Would be great to see Jim Les coaching against The Hawk's son.
 
As a general rule, I don't say scheduling is hard. I realize it's not easy, but the coaches make it hard for themselves, so I don't buy it.

It's is absolutely ridiculous that schools like Seattle, Houston Baptist, LA-La and Idaho go on there demanding home games.
 
As a general rule, I don't say scheduling is hard.....


we have posted at least 40 different articles and interviews with coaches from the BCS, mid-majors, and smaller teams...
who have all said that scheduling IS quite hard...and some go on and on with additional descriptives and superlatives
about how hard it is it..
Then we also have the end results of teams getting stuck with a dozen 300+ teams, SOS's of 290, and one or more D-II's having to be added late as guarantee games..
all of this is pretty solid evidence that there's a desperation that proves how hard scheduling really is...

then you say it is not hard....so just who should people believe???
 
we have posted at least 40 different articles and interviews with coaches from the BCS, mid-majors, and smaller teams...
who have all said that scheduling IS quite hard...and some go on and on with additional descriptives and superlatives
about how hard it is it..
Then we also have the end results of teams getting stuck with a dozen 300+ teams, SOS's of 290, and one or more D-II's having to be added late as guarantee games..
all of this is pretty solid evidence that there's a desperation that proves how hard scheduling really is...

then you say it is not hard....so just who should people believe???

You need to take a course in reading comprehension. I also said they (coaches) make it unnecessarily hard for themselves.

Count me as unsympathetic.
 
Its hard because their is so much money in the game, and coaches (rightfully so) are scared to death to play anyone.

Its not hard to be Jank and play no one.

Its not hard to be Chicago State and play everyone.

Its hard to do the following, at least in this guys opinion:

Schedule good games at home,
Schedule good games at home, when you don't have exclusive use of the facility,
Schedule winnable road games,
Schedule winnable road games that won't hurt your RPI



This gets even more difficult, when you are having the pressure to produce, and many think you aren't getting the job done well.

The simple example is:

U of I doesnt think its a good idea to play Bradley, especially at BU
BU doesn't think its a good idea to play WIU or EIU, especially on the road
EIU doesn't want to play at Chicago ST

Etc.


Where Squirrel is correct, is that many times the coaches are soooooooooooooo worried, they don't see the forest through the trees.
 
It's easy to schedule if you are good, because everyone wants to play you. And it's easy to schedule if you are bad, and you have to go on the road and be someone's sacrificial lamb.

Teams like Bradley are in the worst possible situation and have an extremely hard time scheduling, because good opponents know they are a quality team that will be hard to beat, so they'd rather schedule the Grambling States and Norfolk States. And not-so-good opponents know there are teams with bigger names that might be easier to upset.

If fans don't realize what a tremendously difficult thing scheduling is, and how great a job Bradley does and how much time and effort the Bradley staff puts into it, they are uninformed.

Recall that the Top of the World Classic fell through 2 summer ago, and Bradley had to scramble to fill schedule slots. And the Hall of Fame Classic dropped the 2 guaranteed home games suddenly this summer, and BU has to scramble to fill those slots. Yet year-after-year Bradley has one of the top couple non-conference schedules in the MVC and relatively strong compared to all midmajors.
 
Its hard because their is so much money in the game, and coaches (rightfully so) are scared to death to play anyone.

Its not hard to be Jank and play no one.

Its not hard to be Chicago State and play everyone.

Its hard to do the following, at least in this guys opinion:

Schedule good games at home,
Schedule good games at home, when you don't have exclusive use of the facility,
Schedule winnable road games,
Schedule winnable road games that won't hurt your RPI



This gets even more difficult, when you are having the pressure to produce, and many think you aren't getting the job done well.

The simple example is:

U of I doesnt think its a good idea to play Bradley, especially at BU
BU doesn't think its a good idea to play WIU or EIU, especially on the road
EIU doesn't want to play at Chicago ST

Etc.


Where Squirrel is correct, is that many times the coaches are soooooooooooooo worried, they don't see the forest through the trees.

This is where we get our "Mid-Major" status. Not good enough for Big Ten teams, but too good for quite a few programs (Like EIU).
 
If fans don't realize what a tremendously difficult thing scheduling is, and how great a job Bradley does and how much time and effort the Bradley staff puts into it, they are uninformed.

Where is that being argued?

Recall that the Top of the World Classic fell through 2 summer ago, and Bradley had to scramble to fill schedule slots. And the Hall of Fame Classic dropped the 2 guaranteed home games suddenly this summer, and BU has to scramble to fill those slots. Yet year-after-year Bradley has one of the top couple non-conference schedules in the MVC and relatively strong compared to all midmajors.

Yes, the tournament thing (across the entire game) is a mess right now.

Everyone is looking for a guarantee of 4 games-and increasingly a guarantee of 2 home games. Even one of the ESPN Tournaments (Charleston) is still looking for teams because it only offers 3.

That is certainly one thing that has had a direct impact on scheduling, because teams are sitting on tournaments in case a better offer comes along.

But that still doesn't change the argument from me. I know all the dynamics at play (dates and arena conflicts, tournaments, financials yada yada yada). At the end of the day, coaches simply don't want to take any chances.
 
Scheduling is hard, so when you suggest it really isn't and that coaches "make it hard on themselves"
and if they had any smarts they'd figure it out like some of the fans already have...:roll:
then I kinda snicker at that concept...

It's like a bunch of people at a poker game discussing how brain surgeons don't really know what they're doing
and they always make it hard on themselves -- when in fact it's not really all that hard and, like, anyone can do it, really -

As a general rule, I don't say scheduling is hard. I realize it's not easy, but the coaches make it hard for themselves, so I don't buy it.
 
If fans don't realize what a tremendously difficult thing scheduling is, and how great a job Bradley does and how much time and effort the Bradley staff puts into it, they are uninformed.


Where is that being argued?

I am not saying anyone here is arguing this issue. I think most serious fans understand this.
But I hear it all the time from mostly the casual fan, and I suspect others do, too, "why can't we get (Big Ten or other top teams) on our home schedule".
 
More than 50% of all D-I schools have not yet completed their schedules, and I believe only one valley team has their fully complete.
 
Scheduling is hard, so when you suggest it really isn't and that coaches "make it hard on themselves"
and if they had any smarts they'd figure it out like some of the fans already have...:roll:
then I kinda snicker at that concept...

Snicker away. As someone who knows a lot more about this subject than you or I once said to me (paraphrasing):

Is getting the perfect schedule compiled hard? Yes. But the actual scheduling of games is not hard. Most coaches have multiple options presented to them for their open dates.

At the end of the day, if you have 50 schools who need a game but 40 refuse to do anything other than a home game, that's not the scheduling being hard, that's people making it hard on themselves.
 
all I can go on here is that I have spoken face to face with three different D-I head coaches, one of whom is now a head coach at his 4th school, plus a long time D-I Athletic Director...
all of whom I have heard many times talk of their difficulties scheduling and saying things like
"scheduling is perhaps the single hardest thing we do" and "people just don't realize how hard it is to schedule"

Those very words are almost precisely what other head coaches are saying in all those stories I have been linking to..
here's just one of them in which it talks how Wichita tried calling DOZENS of those schools that SAY THEY HAVE an open date available -- but then they never actually negotiate with you because they're afraid of getting beat at home by a solid mid-major..
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/13/AR2010061303909.html

Jank even sounds bitter that he couldn't get the very teams to play him that he was the assistant coach for a couple years earlier..
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3812982

Call it what you want -- frustrating, making it difficult -- but the head coaches of the solid upper level mid-majors all say it is HARD...Gregg Marshall says "It is almost impossible".


Here's just a little bit more...but if you think scheduling is easy or is NOT hard..
then show me ONE other person who agrees with you who actually does it!!!
I have shown you dozens of people who agree with me that actually DO the scheduling...
Here are more..
http://salukihoops.blogspot.com/2010/08/competitive-scheduling-from-mvc.html
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebask...511/scheduling-still-difficult-for-mid-majors
 
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