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Bradley Adidas deal

tornado said:
Indiana University just announced they will let their current deal with adidas expire..and will...
"explore" other options that are more "lucrative"
http://www.indystar.com/story/sport...-options-lucrative-apparel-contract/29834051/
http://wishtv.com/2015/07/11/iu-exploring-its-options-for-its-next-apparel-contract/

obviously programs with winning teams, that draw arenas full of fans and sell a lot of merchandise command the best deals....
I'd have to think our bargaining power has shrunk some over the past few years with declining success, attendance, and fan base....
but we're poised to make a comeback so maybe we can get in on the "lucrative"
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No doubt that winning means a lot in these deals. Kansas is entering their 3rd year of a 6 year, $26 million agreement with Adidas.

Louisville's Adidas deal is a massive $39 million for 5 years that started a little over a year ago.
 
we need to get where Wichita has gotten in the past few years - they were worse than us in 2006-2009 - they have gone up from there & we have gone way down..
you have to look at the major moves that were made in 2007, 2008 & 2009-11 as the beginning of all our decline
 
tornado said:
we need to get where Wichita has gotten in the past few years - they were worse than us in 2006-2009 - they have gone up from there & we have gone way down..
you have to look at the major moves that were made in 2007, 2008 & 2009-11 as the beginning of all our decline
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I guess I don't understand what that has to do with the Adidas deal. I'm sure it isn't the most lucrative deal, but at the time, Bradley had no universal apparel and shoe deal at all. Every program was wearing something different, and there was no brand connectivity. In a nutshell, the deal that Bradley has is better than what they had before. Can it get better with improvements on the playing field? Absolutely. That said, I know of at least 1 coach who will fight tooth and nail to keep Adidas.
 
our ability to swing a deal or market BU's brand has everything to do with how we are positioned in the marketplace - fan base, attendance, support, donations, tickets sold, numbers of fans who show up at road games and tournaments and wear BU apparel, and the more vague sense of national prestige (like being on Sports Illustrated or in the Sweet 16) -

ALL of those factors were at historic HIGHS just 6-8 years ago and then plummetted to historic lows by 2015 -
Just saying - if Bradley had the opportunity to work a new deal with Nike, adidas, etc...
we'd now be in a way worse position and be forced to take a way worse deal because of bad decisions - just sayin'..
 
tornado said:
our ability to swing a deal or market BU's brand has everything to do with how we are positioned in the marketplace - fan base, attendance, support, donations, tickets sold, numbers of fans who show up at road games and tournaments and wear BU apparel, and the more vague sense of national prestige (like being on Sports Illustrated or in the Sweet 16) -

ALL of those factors were at historic HIGHS just 6-8 years ago and then plummetted to historic lows by 2015 -
Just saying - if Bradley had the opportunity to work a new deal with Nike, adidas, etc...
we'd now be in a way worse position and be forced to take a way worse deal because of bad decisions - just sayin'..
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Fair enough... I guess I'm just a little more willing to credit Mike Cross with striking the deal that he did, considering there was no agreement in place during the "historic highs".
 
I just hope we can acknowledge and learn from the horrible decisions & mistakes of the recent past and avoid making those same destructive moves in the future - we almost killed a Top 40-50 basketball program and nearly drove it into DIII
..yet I still sense a small pocket of deluded, marginally supportive fans (not on this message board) who think the past 4-5 years was a great era and who think those who made all the bad decisions are heroes..
 
tornado said:
I just hope we can acknowledge and learn from the horrible decisions & mistakes of the recent past and avoid making those same destructive moves in the future - we almost killed a Top 40-50 basketball program and nearly drove it into DIII
..yet I still sense a small pocket of deluded, marginally supportive fans (not on this message board) who think the past 4-5 years was a great era and who think those who made all the bad decisions are heroes..
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Seriously? I don't know anyone who thinks that the last 5 years of Bradley basketball were a great era. I certainly don't run in those circles. I haven't spoken to a single person who wasn't greatly disappointed.

As for the D-III thing, I don't believe that was even remotely likely, but it makes for a great story.
 
Old Coach said:
Seriously? I don't know anyone who thinks that the last 5 years of Bradley basketball were a great era. I certainly don't run in those circles. I haven't spoken to a single person who wasn't greatly disappointed.

As for the D-III thing, I don't believe that was even remotely likely, but it makes for a great story.
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well, then stay away as I generally do (except when I want a little humor) from certain places that those sentiments still actively exist...
... several people who posted (over a 2-year span) & participated in the discussion thread elsewhere titled "President Glasser -Best President in school history"
continued to applaud and support the very decisions that sank Bradley - and even now are still strangely arguing and contorting themselves into bizarre arguments that the problems were NOT the admin we had from 2008-09 thru 2015 but that the full blame should go elsewhere - even on people who haven't been at BU for 6 or 8 or even 15 years (some even still blame Mo for current acute disasters)!
 
And though I would not put anyone here into this category, and we'd all like to move past this, there were (and still are) a few perimeter fans who proclaimed every move by Michael Cross and Joanne Glasser as "great moves", when most real fans could see clearly that they were driving Bradley basketball to unprecedented failure, and the athletic department into virtual bankruptcy. Some even proclaimed Glasser to be the greatest president in Bradley history. :roll:
 
tornado said:
Those who forget history & the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat it.
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Exactly! Which is why BU is lucky to get a new coach with a record of coaching and recruiting success to lead the Braves to the next level (MVC titles, MVC Tourney Championships)..I envision multiple championships with this new AD & MBB Head Coach (and hopefully the new University prez)
 
tornado said:
Michigan's deal with adidas was/is the "most lucrative" such deal in all of college sports yet Michigan is still jettisoning their adidas deal for reasons that relate to their recent dropoff in athletic success......
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Indeed the offer Nike gave Michigan was the "lowest" offer they had - the adidas deal was monetarily BETTER..
and yet Michigan goes with the lesser Nike deal!
Maybe they know something...
https://twitter.com/BFQuinn/status/621342642643816449
 
question for anyone - do they have or do you know where to buy a nice Bradley logo LONG SLEEVE polo or rugby shirt?

Here is all I come up with for men's LS shirts via the BU bookstore web site
http://bradley.bncollege.com/webapp...ubCatIdFlag=true&storeId=20052&topCatId=40000

There are some knock-off sites that sell Bradley shirts but due to the licensing arrangement - none of those guys sells anything that even looks remotely like a Bradley logo - so I wouldn't want to five any $$ to those ripoffs.
But if they are going to be so strict that only the bookstore sells BU apparel, then why such a tiny selection? Every other school has them.
 
yes, thanks - odd that they only have the polo in black and do not sell either of Bradley's two primary colors, red or white
 
UCLA signs record shoe deal for $280 million
http://www.latimes.com/sports/ucla/la-sp-0525-ucla-under-armour-20160525-snap-story.html

as you recall, Illini didn't get as much $$$
http://www.thechampaignroom.com/201...ontract-deal-apparel-contract-fighting-illini
http://longform.dailyillini.com/nike-at-illinois/


...funny- I remember not too long ago a "shoe deal" simply meant that the shoe company was willing to GIVE the team BRAND NEW shoes if they agreed to have all the players wear them!

...times have changed....I recall once when Coach Mo opened his trunk at school to get his kids' bookbag out - and the trunk was loaded with boxes of brand new Nike basketball shoes....
it seemed like an incredible deal to have all those FREE SHOES!!! - but nowadays, it's not a good deal unless there's $200 million involved...



as you can see - only the really big time football schools are getting the big DOLLAR deals...
the smaller schools like Bradley get little or no cash with the deal - they just get the apparell
...up to $110-200K worth
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/01/how_much_do_colleges_get_for_s.html
 
That is a lot of money. Football, because of its popularity, is driving the athletic apparel companies, the NCAA and conference realignment. I remember a time, back in the 70's, when local sporting good companies negotiated with high schools and colleges for their shoe business. If you needed a new pair of shoes during the basketball season, in the Peoria area, you had to get approval from your athletic director and then go to Keenan's in downtown Peoria, to get your new shoes.

Companies use to pay to advertise. Now the big name companies such as Nike, Adidas, Reebok, American Eagle, and etc., are charging us, incredible prices for a junk t-shirt, made in China, Vietnam, Bangladesh or etc., so we can wear it and be cool, while advertising their name brand. Sometimes I think we've lost our minds.
 
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