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WMBD feature on Geno Ford and the Bradley Braves

The text of the article appears to be incorrect, both DSE and and Remy have asked for their release... Though I do not believe BU has granted them.
 
amckillip said:
The text of the article appears to be incorrect, both DSE and and Remy have asked for their release... Though I do not believe BU has granted them.
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It's not just the text. Coach Ford says it right in the video. I assume he's talking about returning players and not recruits however.
 
rsmit84 said:
It's not just the text. Coach Ford says it right in the video. I assume he's talking about returning players and not recruits however.
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I got the impression he's referring to everyone by his comments about "looks like they're staying."

On Remy and DSE... Did DSE ask before Ford was hired? That would make sense as he says that no one has asked since he's been there. And maybe I missed it, but i never saw "confirmation" that Remy asked or received his release? Just the rumor mill going at it again if that's the case.

Glad Geno is willing to talk with the media. Hopefully they don't burn him and cause him not to do that.
 
FWIH, DSE did ask MC for a release and specified a list of schools to be released to talk to. But was told to wait until he met and talked with the new coach. Since meeting with the new coach, I think DSE is still considering what he'll do.
 
peoriaspitfire said:
What makes you think SH won't stay? I have to say from all I've read about him that I'm very intrigued and would love for him to still choose BU.
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I've wondered the same thing. The kid has been out of the country for 3 years. Our coaches can't even get in touch with him so I doubt any other schools have been in his ears. I would also imagine over those three years schools that had recruited him have moved on to other similar players and aren't interested anymore.

I am really hoping he still comes as he seems like the type of physical high energy player we're lacking.
 
peoriaspitfire said:
What makes you think SH won't stay? I have to say from all I've read about him that I'm very intrigued and would love for him to still choose BU.
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Coach Corn has said on this very board he will do everything in his power to keep Sean away from Bradley..... that Sean was just coming to Bradley because of Les.

I hope this isn't the case and Sean comes to Bradley next year as I think he would be a nice addition to the team.
 
Coach Corn was just reacting to his friend's firing, and shortly after he posted, he removed his own post. I think he still believes Sean is likely not to come to Bradley now, he wants him to make his own decision.
 
Da Coach said:
Coach Corn was just reacting to his friend's firing, and shortly after he posted, he removed his own post. I think he still believes Sean is likely not to come to Bradley now, he wants him to make his own decision.
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Good to hear, all I want is Sean to make his own decision. If he decides Bradley is where he should be then great and if he believes he is better suited to go somewhere else now then best of luck to Sean.
 
lightsout said:
Good to hear, all I want is Sean to make his own decision. If he decides Bradley is where he should be then great and if he believes he is better suited to go somewhere else now then best of luck to Sean.
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Ive talked to some people that say BU isn't really likely to want want Sean at this point.

They wish him the best, but feel that BU needs players who have played more recently than two or three years ago.

There is also question to his physicality after being two years away from collegiate nutrition...
 
srw said:
Ive talked to some people that say BU isn't really likely to want want Sean at this point.

They wish him the best, but feel that BU needs players who have played more recently than two or three years ago.

There is also question to his physicality after being two years away from collegiate nutrition...
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Yeah I don't get the fascination with him after being gone for 3 years. It took Michael Jordan a year to get into basketball shape, and he was still playing a professional sport. Tiger Woods took a year to return to form after being off only a year. Even Andrew Warren took a full season to get back into shape.

I'd rather have the scholarship for a 4 year project or a juco that will come in and play right away.
 
JMM28 said:
...It took Michael Jordan a year to get into basketball shape....
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not so fast...
Michael Jordan went two years without hardly picking up a basketbakll -- playing minor league baseball...

Then in 1995 he announced "I'm back" and played the final 17 games in the 1994-1995 season averaging 39.3 minutes per game the most in any year he ever played after 1988...and averaged 27 ppg and 6.9 rpg (also the most in any year he played after 1988 )?
Then the following fall...just 4 months later - he promptly led the Bulls to the 1995-1996 title -- averaging 30.4 ppg, 38 minutes per game, 6.6 rebs
...virtually all of which was accomplished in that one year window you're saying it took "to get into basketball shape".
Interestingly -- each successive season when he was then already back in "basketball shape" his minutes, scoring, and all other measures of productivity declined, and he still led the Bulls to 2 more titles and played four maore seasons....

as many of the BYU kids prove year after year -- those kids coming back from 2+ year missions, if they have the talent, get back into shape pretty quickly..
 
Maybe if Sean was in his 40's there would be a real reason for concern about a loss of athleticism. But at 22 or 23 years of age, I don't see a problem. There are numerous examples of kids returning from 2 year missions and performing at a top level right away.
 
tornado said:
not so fast...
Michael Jordan went two years without hardly picking up a basketbakll -- playing minor league baseball...

Then in 1995 he announced "I'm back" and played the final 17 games in the 1994-1995 season averaging 39.3 minutes per game the most in any year he ever played after 1988...and averaged 27 ppg and 6.9 rpg (also the most in any year he played after 1988 )?
Then the following fall...just 4 months later - he promptly led the Bulls to the 1995-1996 title -- averaging 30.4 ppg, 38 minutes per game, 6.6 rebs
...virtually all of which was accomplished in that one year window you're saying it took "to get into basketball shape".
Interestingly -- each successive season when he was then already back in "basketball shape" his minutes, scoring, and all other measures of productivity declined, and he still led the Bulls to 2 more titles and played four maore seasons....

as many of the BYU kids prove year after year -- those kids coming back from 2+ year missions, if they have the talent, get back into shape pretty quickly..
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Was thinking the same thing and they come w/a great work ethic also
 
Do you think the kid is sitting around on a vacation? I'm sure he's on a program to keep himself in shape. I also would have to believe BU is a good fit for him all around. I hope all the recruits show up as well as NW. They all appear to possess great values which has been a JL trademark of his recruits.
 
tornado said:
not so fast...
Michael Jordan went two years without hardly picking up a basketbakll -- playing minor league baseball...
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Wrong. He actually played 1 year of minor league baseball, the 1994 season (Feb-Sept for those concerned). He also played in the AFL that Fall, which puts him in baseball until about early November. The 94 season was also the strike season in the majors. MJ did not want to be a replacement player, and the obvious rumors of his return started around Spring Training time. Also, to think that The Greatest That Ever Lived would not pick up a basketball in his house with a full size gym in it is a bit naive.

I do believe MJ would have eventually made it to the majors however. But that is another post for another day.

So keeping track, 1 year off. Another 2-3 months before the comeback of training. Also still playing a professional sport.

tornado said:
Then in 1995 he announced "I'm back" and played the final 17 games in the 1994-1995 season averaging 39.3 minutes per game the most in any year he ever played after 1988...and averaged 27 ppg and 6.9 rpg (also the most in any year he played after 1988 )?
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Yes he did, but he also, in his own words, did not even come close to playing like he should have. We aren't talking about ol Zeke Thomas or Magic Johnson here, this is The GOAT. That season he shot his lowest percentage percentage from the field in his career, by a wide margin. His defense was also terrible (for him), and he just didn't have his legs under him.

tornado said:
Then the following fall...just 4 months later - he promptly led the Bulls to the 1995-1996 title -- averaging 30.4 ppg, 38 minutes per game, 6.6 rebs
...virtually all of which was accomplished in that one year window you're saying it took "to get into basketball shape".
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Oh you mean exactly a year after he stopped playing baseball. Darn near a year after he started training for his return. Huh. Crazy how that works out. I do believe the Bulls hit their stride that year around January-February time frame too... which would be exactly a year.

tornado said:
Interestingly -- each successive season when he was then already back in "basketball shape" his minutes, scoring, and all other measures of productivity declined, and he still led the Bulls to 2 more titles and played four maore seasons....
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Any Michael Jordan fan knows that he only played 2 more seasons after the 96 season. Come on.

Also, not that it really matters, but he played more minutes in his last 2 years than he did in 95-96.

Any Bulls fan born before 1988 knows that the 97-98 team was running on absolute fumes, somehow won the title, and probably would have won it again in 99 with the extended break. I am not really sure how any of this is relevant to Sean Harris, but so be it.


And as for BYU players...
???I came back really slow and out of shape,??? said point guard Austin Ainge, 25, the son of the former basketball star Danny Ainge, who served his mission in the Dominican Republic. ???It was really hard. I personally think anyone who thinks it??™s a benefit, basketball-wise, is crazy. I still don??™t think I??™m as quick as I was in high school.???

And their most successful player on their best team since Danny Ainge didn't actually go on a mission trip, unlike 80+% of their students. Hmmph.

Chris Collinsworth came back from a mission and had gained 30+ lbs, rushed to get himself back into shape, and wound up missing the end of the season with microfracture surgery.

I am no expert in the Latter-day Saints and their ways, but I do know that their mission trips are exactly that. There is not much time allowed for anything but thumping. If he is working out an hour a day, he is extremely lucky.
 
What on earth are we arguing about? I know I missed it somewhere....can someone help me?


Wait I re-read a few things...so we are wondering how he can get into shape after a misson trip....probably as easy as Taylor getting back into shape when he is cleared...

SH described as a kid with a constant motor going and really getting after it...I would say if we were talking about a sharp shooter or a ball handler with mad skills..it would take a little while to get back to the game...but a player that would be a player SH is described as..I doubt it would take much time to get back in shape for his game...


Now quit arguing ;)
 
mrcoachdude said:
What on earth are we arguing about? I know I missed it somewhere....can someone help me?


Wait I re-read a few things...so we are wondering how he can get into shape after a misson trip....probably as easy as Taylor getting back into shape when he is cleared...

SH described as a kid with a constant motor going and really getting after it...I would say if we were talking about a sharp shooter or a ball handler with mad skills..it would take a little while to get back to the game...but a player that would be a player SH is described as..I doubt it would take much time to get back in shape for his game...

Now quit arguing ;)
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Fair enough. Agreed. Good point.
 
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