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Will?
- Thread starter SaintLouBrave22
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Braves4Life
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It's just not in our game plan:!: I watched both games this weekend. I saw our 5's work their ass off getting in position, calling for the ball and everyone of our guards would look them off and pass to another gun or shoot themself's. No wonder we have no inside game:!:
I agree with all you have said here BB:!:
Wouldn't they have to be looking up and not at the floor to see Will and Sam call for the ball?!
Guards will get "Bigs" the ball if they have confidence that the "Bigs" will do something constructive with it. Otherwise, they will distribute the ball where they think the best chance of success lies. Ask yourself this: Have our "Bigs" given our guards any reason to be confident?
SaintLouBrave22
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Guards will get "Bigs" the ball if they have confidence that the "Bigs" will do something constructive with it. Otherwise, they will distribute the ball where they think the best chance of success lies. Ask yourself this: Have our "Bigs" given our guards any reason to be confident?
Pretty impossible to do something if never given the ball...
I do believe Will has scored 10 pts in 2 games but only has taken 7 or 8 shots...
How many shots have Sammy and Eddren taken?
Stop chucking and start passing the ball inside:!:
bigdaddystuck
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I wonder if WE's minutes may be because of his defensive effort. I have noticed that he loses his man fairly easily on D. Can't really play a tough tight man to man when guys keep losing their assigned man.
SaintLouBrave22
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I wonder if WE's minutes may be because of his defensive effort. I have noticed that he loses his man fairly easily on D. Can't really play a tough tight man to man when guys keep losing their assigned man.
Awfully hard to stay on your man when you have to consistently help out on Eddren's and Sammy's men...
If you want to point a finger, start with the breakdowns 25 ft from the basket
OR it could be that our 2 PG's that are used the majority of the time either dribble around with no purpose, dribble with their heads down, or chuck shots up for no reason whatsoever...
Also, I can't remember the last time we had a guard who was good at getting the ball in the post as Ruff wasn't great at that, just slightly above average.
Maybe JC?
I can already tell that DSE is wave lengths above the others in that aspect and Will would enjoy the both of them receiving more time together.
Finally someone else that noticed 2 guards dribbling way too much and not making any post passes, DSE made several post passes last night and if Sam Singh had kept going on his cut to the basket he could of had a layup , that is why I like DSE so much as he doesn"t dribble around , he knows what he is going to do and runs the point with authority.
Out of Balance
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The 3 headed monster stats for the first 2 games:
------------------------ / Reb /
/ / / / / / FG / / / FT / / / OF - DF / / TP / / PF / //A / / / TO //// BLK / //S ////Min P
WE - - 5 - 8 - - 0 - 1 - - 2 - 5 = 7 -- 10 - - 5 - - - 0 - - - -4 - - 0 - - 0 ----30
SS - - 1 - 4 - - 0 - 1 - - 3 - 5 = 8 -- 2 -- - 5 - - - 2 - - - -3 --- 1 - - 1 ---- 36
AT - - 0 - 1 - - 3 - 4 - - 0 - 3 = 3 -- 3 - -- 0 - - - 0 - - - -1 - - 0 - - 0 ----16
Yap, send SS to the end of the bench, peeked out and taking up someone else's Min's:!: Not going to help this team, send him to where the splendors hurt the most:!:
But heres some facts first:!:
He started Friday and we got off to a good start and he played 17 mins against BYU starting center who had the same playing time (17). Sam had better stats then him and was not beaten by him:!:
Sunday WE started and left the game at around the 15:30 min. mark with BU down 10 - 4 and looking like a lost hooker who could not find her corner:!: Was replaced by SS. Sam played to the 3 min mark and BU was ahead 26 - 19! His passes were good, screens good and his blocking out led to RB's for others plus a couple himself. His D was good as his man did not score and he had a blk. Both WE and AT man bet them bad a couple times:!:
I say let the old broken down, body scared, injury ridden, can't jump, over the hill, and a push over go were all finished BU players go when they are washed up and beat down by fans who know they can be miles ahead with someone else!
JK :lol: Glad we have you Sam:biggrin:
------------------------ / Reb /
/ / / / / / FG / / / FT / / / OF - DF / / TP / / PF / //A / / / TO //// BLK / //S ////Min P
WE - - 5 - 8 - - 0 - 1 - - 2 - 5 = 7 -- 10 - - 5 - - - 0 - - - -4 - - 0 - - 0 ----30
SS - - 1 - 4 - - 0 - 1 - - 3 - 5 = 8 -- 2 -- - 5 - - - 2 - - - -3 --- 1 - - 1 ---- 36
AT - - 0 - 1 - - 3 - 4 - - 0 - 3 = 3 -- 3 - -- 0 - - - 0 - - - -1 - - 0 - - 0 ----16
Yap, send SS to the end of the bench, peeked out and taking up someone else's Min's:!: Not going to help this team, send him to where the splendors hurt the most:!:
But heres some facts first:!:
He started Friday and we got off to a good start and he played 17 mins against BYU starting center who had the same playing time (17). Sam had better stats then him and was not beaten by him:!:
Sunday WE started and left the game at around the 15:30 min. mark with BU down 10 - 4 and looking like a lost hooker who could not find her corner:!: Was replaced by SS. Sam played to the 3 min mark and BU was ahead 26 - 19! His passes were good, screens good and his blocking out led to RB's for others plus a couple himself. His D was good as his man did not score and he had a blk. Both WE and AT man bet them bad a couple times:!:
I say let the old broken down, body scared, injury ridden, can't jump, over the hill, and a push over go were all finished BU players go when they are washed up and beat down by fans who know they can be miles ahead with someone else!
JK :lol: Glad we have you Sam:biggrin:
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SaintLouBrave22
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Very well put as in crap or get off the pot!Finally someone else that noticed 2 guards dribbling way too much and not making any post passes, DSE made several post passes last night and if Sam Singh had kept going on his cut to the basket he could of had a layup , that is why I like DSE so much as he doesn"t dribble around , he knows what he is going to do and runs the point with authority.
Out of Balance
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You got to have a chance to prove yourself:!: Ask yourself this, when the bombs are not dropping do the bigs give up:roll: Hell No:lol: Just pass the ball to the low post, establish a low post game, good things will happen:biggrin: If that happens the Def. will start sagging and our small guards will have a good look/shot at the basket and Everyone will be happy:!: Don't Think Friend:lol:Guards will get "Bigs" the ball if they have confidence that the "Bigs" will do something constructive with it. Otherwise, they will distribute the ball where they think the best chance of success lies. Ask yourself this: Have our "Bigs" given our guards any reason to be confident?
As soon as our guards get the ball inside our post players will score, another big like Taylor Brown should help in freeing up our center. I thought Will had a good game against BYU as he had 6 points in just 12 minutes, he needs to start getting 25 minutes in order to be able to get into the flow of the game. I still believe Will could average 10-12 points a game if he gets enough minutes.
Sunday WE started and left the game at around the 15:30 min. mark with BU down 10 - 4 and looking like a lost hooker who could not find her corner:!:
Honestly I did not read the whole post but this line cracked me up!;-)
SaintLouBrave22
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You got to have a chance to prove yourself:!: Ask yourself this, when the bombs are not dropping do the bigs give up:roll: Hell No:lol: Just pass the ball to the low post, establish a low post game, good things will happen:biggrin: If that happens the Def. will start sagging and our small guards will have a good look/shot at the basket and Everyone will be happy:!: Don't Think Friend:lol:
I agree, as the only one that seems to realize that by getting the ball in will free open looks for the guards is DSE.
Get the ball inside a few times and open up the perimeter.
Braves4Life
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I agree, as the only one that seems to realize that by getting the ball in will free open looks for the guards is DSE.
Get the ball inside a few times and open up the perimeter.
You're making the assumption that the bigs will know what to do with the ball AND have the ability to pass it sharply back out to a spot where a guard can do something with it. I've not seen this happen since the POB days.
SaintLouBrave22
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You're making the assumption that the bigs will know what to do with the ball AND have the ability to pass it sharply back out to a spot where a guard can do something with it. I've not seen this happen since the POB days.
Obviously you haven't watched Will enough...he knows what to do with the ball if he gets the touches...
Right now, thats a big IF.
I watched 6 games last night....EVERY single game, each team came down the floor and made sure their inside guys got at least 1 touch in the offense...
Like I said, THATS how you open up the perimeter.