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Why Dave Bliss is Satan

This isn't about taping a conversation and if Jim Boeheim and Mike Krzyzewski justify their positions that way then they are scum. If Baylor University had any morals they would rehire the guy. I really feel for him and hope I would do the same if put in his position.

I voted for Bliss in the worse hire poll. How could I not?
 
I feel sorry for the guy, but then that is what the author of the article tried really hard to evoke from readers. Somehow, I suspect there is more to this story than we will ever know. Didn't this assistant know what was going on at Baylor? There were NCAA violations involving cash payments to players, drug use among players, and other things that the article never brings up. Was this coach involved?
And, if he never intended for the tape of Bliss he made to become public, why did he do it? What was the purpose of secretly taping your boss and head coach discussing how he would portray the dead player as a drug dealer. Then turning the tape over to a lawyer!
 
But Dave Bliss is only a small part of what has destroyed this guy's life and reputation over the past 5 years. It appears there is a "brotherhood" among coaches and institutions that looks down upon what Rouse did to expose Bliss.
It doesn't surprise me as I have seen similar conspiratorial actions in other professions, and even good people who are "whistleblowers" end up having their lives and reputations ruined, and treated as enemies.
The irony is, of course, that Dave Bliss, Kelvin Sampson, and even Jim Harrick, and others all have decent jobs, are still in the coaching profession, and are even (to some degree) respected as if they have done nothing wrong.
http://www.bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=81141#post81141
 
"Not once did Rouse think his decision would be career suicide."

That's hard to believe. How can he not think that there wouldn't be some kind of repercussions for being a whistle-blower? I'll agree that he did the right thing, but you have to know that it comes with a price.

He was only there three months, so I'm not sure that he was privy to all the other "stuff" going on at Baylor.

What's so bad about making airplane parts?
 
Da Coach, I have to agree..........
what if some trusted, in-office employee of yours, started taping all your conversations, maybe even led you in some certain directions to even get the answer desired, then used those tapes selectively to bring you down, knowing some of the words would be viewed out of context and with great suspicion.

I'd have to admit, that I wouldn't want that person working for me again.
In the end, it sounds like those tapes were released to the press which caused the guy's downfall, and the guy is suing his lawyer for giving the tapes to the press. Sounds like the lawyers are actually responsible, as usual, for the entire mess. ;)
 
I have absolutely no problem with the "whistleblowing" behavior of Abar Rouse. There were obviously a lot of problems with the Baylor program and it sounds like his actions were designed to 1) protect his own job, 2) protect the reputation of the murdered player, and 3) do the right thing to protect the integrity of his alma matter and employer.

Behaviors such as his should actually be encouraged and celebrated because the risk of unethical behaviors being detected and exposed helps make our workplace and society a better place.

That is what Time Magazine had in mind in 2002 when they named the "Whistleblowers" as the Time Persons of the Year represented by Cynthia Cooper (WorldCom), Colleen Rowley (FBI) and Sherron Watkins (Enron).

I'm not quite sure where Jim Boeheim and Mike Krzyzewski are coming from in criticising this behavior, especially given their leadership roles in their own university. Most business leaders that value ethics in their organization would seriously question the mistreatment of Rouse by the coaching community.

Personally, I've been very concerned about recent misconduct in college coaching (i.e. Dave Bliss, Kelvin Sanction) and the instigator's ability to move on and achieve success. I wonder if when college coaches today are faced with the temptations to behave unethically, they may think to themselves, "well...Kelvin Sanction got paid $750k to go away and landed a nice NBA job." I'd really hate to see what an escalation of these ethics violations will do to the sport I love.

I don't know much about Abar Rouse, but based on what I read today, I certainly hope that he gets another opportunity to coach.
 
OK with the benefit of hindsight the best course of action for him personally would have been to quit and walk out of Bliss's office. A lot easier conclusion in retrospect rather than when you just acheived your "dream" of a coaching job at your alma mater.

However, I have a big problem with the coaching profession blackballing him. He did not tape Dave Bliss talking about "cheating" to get a recruit. We talk about that a lot around here and see that as a tremendous wrong-it is wrong but pales in comparison to trashing the reputation of a dead young man for your own personal gain. I don't know that the situation he found himself in left many good options. Even quitting would have left the reputation of a dead man trashed....not a great option.

I have to say if someone tapes their boss doing something like that then their boss deserves to go down. I don't think (I hope I would not) I would view that individual negatively. I would view the boss negatively. I would hope we would value right and wrong over loyalty-loyalty has limits. As in most things there is judgement involved. Taping someone and turning them in because they "stole" $5 is probably not warranted. Taping somebodies coverup of a murder (not saying that is what this case is) strikes me as proper.

I do take DC's comments that we don't know all of the details-there may be more to this fella's story.
 
Anyone recall Bliss and Molinari coached together for the Pan Am Games (or something similar)?

I met Bliss in the 97-98 season while he was with the Lobos and he had nothing but great things to say about Bradley and JM.
 
Braves4Life said:
He's baaaaaaaaaaaaack...........................What a friggin' joke!

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=806996
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DAVE BLISS CAUGHT CHEATING AGAIN AND SUSPENDED FOR A YEAR FROM COACHING AND ALL ACTIVITIES IN TEXAS!!

I guess it's hard for a skunk to hide his odor....kinda like Kelvin Sampson!!

Once again, Dave Bliss...now working as a coach, athletic director, and dean at a small Texas high school, is being penalized and reprimanded for multiple flagrant violations of Texas Association rules...and is being suspended!!!

"that Bliss acted in violation of several ..by-laws...
....those rules deal with the eligibility of boarding students, transfer rules, and the solicitation of students.

The (violations) ..led to sanctions including Bliss’ suspension from all coaching activities and administrative duties in TAPPS for one year...and ..placed Allen Academy on a two-year probation, and it issued a public reprimand for lack of institutional control in establishing the eligibility of student athletes.

Bliss left Baylor University in a swirl of controversy in after word of alleged NCAA violations surfaced in the summer of 2003 in the wake of the murder of player Patrick Dennehy and the arrest of former player Carlton Dotson."

http://www.kwtx.com/news/headlines/..._Center_Of_Controversy_111008969.html?ref=969
 
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