Buesch N Chips
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I agree, although his 4th foul about 20 feet from the basket was not very smart.
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I agree, although his 4th foul about 20 feet from the basket was not very smart.
LittleBrave
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I enjoyed watching the game - the painful part was that it kept buffering every 10 seconds, so watching a full possession on my computer happened only 5 or 6 times. I hope that doesn't happen when I watch it on Wed. for probably a closer game.
Nice games by Pross, WL, and AW.
21 pts. by our Bigs - pretty good production!
JE - pretty good, and Stix should get more P.T. - though I saw he never got 1 board in 9 minutes. He gives us energy when he's out there.
Need to work on:
1) DD looked bad handling the ball - though he racked up 8 assists, but it was misleading. 2-6 from the line ain't gonna' get it done in league play.
2) Gave up too many lay-ups - JP, AT, WE allow too much down low.
3) Should have been able to put this team away by 10 min. mark - kept them thinking they were in striking distance, which isn't good. Maybe we should accept that we will not have a comfortable lead all season???
4) WE's approach on both ends was opposite what I saw vs. Duke. Too much finess - get tougher Will!
5) Rebounding needs to get better - WL, AW, and JP did well with boarding, but it's a whole-team effort!
Nice games by Pross, WL, and AW.
21 pts. by our Bigs - pretty good production!
JE - pretty good, and Stix should get more P.T. - though I saw he never got 1 board in 9 minutes. He gives us energy when he's out there.
Need to work on:
1) DD looked bad handling the ball - though he racked up 8 assists, but it was misleading. 2-6 from the line ain't gonna' get it done in league play.
2) Gave up too many lay-ups - JP, AT, WE allow too much down low.
3) Should have been able to put this team away by 10 min. mark - kept them thinking they were in striking distance, which isn't good. Maybe we should accept that we will not have a comfortable lead all season???
4) WE's approach on both ends was opposite what I saw vs. Duke. Too much finess - get tougher Will!
5) Rebounding needs to get better - WL, AW, and JP did well with boarding, but it's a whole-team effort!
Braves4Life
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IMO, this may have been the best B.tv stream EVER. I had no problems and the quality was fantastic. I'm guessing you may have had a bad/slow internet connection LittleBrave. You might want to check your internet speed. Mine just clocked in with a download speed of 14.94 Mb/s, and an upload speed of .31 Mb/s which apparently is above average.
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LittleBrave
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Thanks B4L! I'll check it out tonight. It was so frustrating - at times, I saw a player's head (fuzzy) and then 5 or 6 guys running around inside his head - very weird.
Missouri Brave
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How can you be disappointed in last night's game? Seriously?
BU played terrific defense, led comfortably the entire way and broke a five-game losing streak. And it might have ended up a nine-point game but, c'mon, it wasn't that close and anyone who watched or listened to it, knew it.
I consider myself as rational as anyone but, while this team has disappointed several teams in the early going, gimme a break...very glad to get a comfortable win.
BU played terrific defense, led comfortably the entire way and broke a five-game losing streak. And it might have ended up a nine-point game but, c'mon, it wasn't that close and anyone who watched or listened to it, knew it.
I consider myself as rational as anyone but, while this team has disappointed several teams in the early going, gimme a break...very glad to get a comfortable win.
LittleBrave
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Good point, MB. It was the 1st game we've led rather comfortably for most of the game - I was never on the edge of my seat waiting for a collapse.
I thought all guys made contributions, including our little zero (Woods), who handled the ball well. AW continues to impress - good sign this early in the season. Our freshmen are getting better, pretty good player substitutions IMO by Les, and we scored inside (33% of our scoring by Bigs).
JSU had some decent scorers - I don't think they were TERRIBLE - we just took them out of their comfort zone in the 1st half.
Let's keep it going tomorrow night - I think we can beat Detroit even withouth DSE if our defense stays tight and DD and WE have better games.
Buesch N Chips
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The final margin was as close as Jackson State was pretty much the entire game.
houstontxbrave
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I completely disagree. This is a game you turn into a 20+ blow out. They were horrible offensively and equally bad defensively. They went what 10 minutes in the first half without a point? They were the definition of horrible.
Instead we let them score 30+ points in the second half with several lazy defensive positions. We traded baskets with them for most of the last 10 minutes of the second half, very few actualy possession stops. Heck if Lemon doesnt throw in the lop for a 3 this is a 61-55 game.
I am not looking for perfection but there is no reason for not playing hard every possession especially defensively and taking a 12 point half time lead and extending it. Instead Bradley does not extend the lead they let part of the lead evaporate.
We split way to many possession in the second half. Just my opinion yes a comfortable win but far from impressive or what I would expect from holding a 12 point half time lead v a SWAC team.
LittleBrave
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Did you know we don't have the services of SM, TB, or DSE? I'm not expecting this current team to blow anyone out. A win is a win this season - who do you expect to carry the scoring load that isn't already?
We are getting good production from AW & WL - don't really have many more scoring threats than that - everyone else will chip in a few points to get us to 60+. That's who we are. IMO, WE should/could be scoring more by attacking the rim more and staying in the game by not commiting stupid fouls, but everyone else I don't expect much more scoring.
You do have a point, and I got frustrated too, with the weak post defense in the 2nd half. Seems like the 2-3 zone puts our defenders at a lull from time to time - would like to see more man-to-man to use our quickness & aggressiveness. The BIGS should not have such poor position - allowing such easy entries in the paint.
Chucky T's
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Gotta agree with Houston on this one. While I am glad that BU won and that the outcome was never really in doubt, I am a little disappointed that BU didn't put this team away in the second half. The Braves have been burned several times over the past few years by letting teams get back into the game after opening up double digit leads in the second half. BU needs to learn to play as hard as they can on EVERY possession until the horn sounds. Step on their throats!!! Bury them!!! Blow em out of the gym!!! We seem to get VERY conservative when we get big leads. I want to see BU attack until it's time to call off the dogs. I hate the pull the ball out and kill the clock approach especially when there are still 3 or 4 minutes left on the clock. We didn't get a big lead by standing around and holding the ball. It's like going into the prevent defense. It prevents you from winning.
houstontxbrave
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You are so spot on about the SM TB and DSE. The whole season is completely different but it is what it is you cant change history.
And honestly I am actually believing that, JL simply because he has had to adjust so often as a head coach, that this team might have a chance to come together, especially if Will Egolf wakes up.
But you said we are who we are with the 60+ a game. I agree, but last night we were not attentive to the defensive end in the second half. If you are going to struggle to score, you have to play hard defense every possession every night at the other end.
I just wanted us to take that 12 point lead and run with it and give ourselves a win and there is no question about anything. Instead we muddle along, trade baskets and win by a comfortable 9. We muddle along Wednesday, the 29th or for the rest of the year we will get burried.
LittleBrave
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Point taken H-TXBrave. The defense was much more discouraging than not reaching 70 pts. like I was hoping. I think JL is falling in love with the zone this year - maybe TOO much. Seems like teams are shooting open 3's a lot and interior passing comes too easy.
Now that you mention the lethargic D in the 2nd half, maybe a more energetic, pesky defense could have translated into more points, as happened in the 1st half when we forced a slew of TO's.
Loved the way Prosser, Lemon, and Warren looked last night.
Prosser and Lemon are freshman, so they have their flaws, but they'll both be fine. Porsser shows a willingness to set a post and be physical down low...something that our two 4th year post men aren't willing to do on a regular basis. Once Prosser realizes how big and strong he is and starts using that to his advantage on both ends of the floor, he will be a quality Valley player...
Eastman looked healthier...needs to keep shooting from the perimeter...this team desperately needs a perimeter threat, not a 6'4" guy muddling around down low...
Dodie was just bad. Sticks and Egolf combined for 1 rebound between them in 23 minutes...that is beyond poor. Both guys seem to have very limited basketball instincts, IMO....they just don't seem to have a nose for the ball and are very reluctant to be physical down low...disappointing considering they are now 4th year players in the program...
Milos and his act is getting pretty tired, IMO. He goes 1-4 from 3 last night...and when he hit his only shot of the game, he predictably spent the next 10 seconds back-pedalling down the floor, nodding, thumping his chest and talking smack to every Jackson State player within earshot...Totally embarrassing...Act like you've been there, Milos. Focus on the things that truly matter in the game, and you just might find yourself in it more often.
Will be interesting to see how we play against Detroit on Wednesday...they should be a much better test than Jackson St. was...
Prosser and Lemon are freshman, so they have their flaws, but they'll both be fine. Porsser shows a willingness to set a post and be physical down low...something that our two 4th year post men aren't willing to do on a regular basis. Once Prosser realizes how big and strong he is and starts using that to his advantage on both ends of the floor, he will be a quality Valley player...
Eastman looked healthier...needs to keep shooting from the perimeter...this team desperately needs a perimeter threat, not a 6'4" guy muddling around down low...
Dodie was just bad. Sticks and Egolf combined for 1 rebound between them in 23 minutes...that is beyond poor. Both guys seem to have very limited basketball instincts, IMO....they just don't seem to have a nose for the ball and are very reluctant to be physical down low...disappointing considering they are now 4th year players in the program...
Milos and his act is getting pretty tired, IMO. He goes 1-4 from 3 last night...and when he hit his only shot of the game, he predictably spent the next 10 seconds back-pedalling down the floor, nodding, thumping his chest and talking smack to every Jackson State player within earshot...Totally embarrassing...Act like you've been there, Milos. Focus on the things that truly matter in the game, and you just might find yourself in it more often.
Will be interesting to see how we play against Detroit on Wednesday...they should be a much better test than Jackson St. was...
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AZ BU Fan
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I guess I am considered one of the notorious Negative Nellies on the Forum, BUT,
Let's time shift to last Sunday night....
How would we have responded to a prediction BU would lead by 20, lead almost wire to wire, and ultimately win by 9 (but were ahead by 12 before garbage time started)? I know how I would have responded: all right!
I am not into style points when BU loses, nor do I care too much about style points when BU wins. Could they have played better? Certainly....Could they have played worse? I think 5 L's in a row answers that. Did they play better than the 5 L's so far...All but the Duke game, I'd say yes.
Should we expect a finished team playing to their highest level post roster decimation? Probably not. Should we expect incremental improvement, and continued improvement over the course of the season? Certainly. I don't think this particular BU line up has played their best ball yet. They did show individual improvement.
Whether that will be enough to be successful and contend for the MVC is not relevant to me anymore. Seeing player progression and "buy in", seeing if the coaching staff can get through to their players and implement startegies that the team can successfully implement, is what I need to see to stay interested this year.
The ability of the new comers this year and the recruits next year are all important to me now. This year was going to be my Waterloo for JL's future tenure at BU. With the injuries BU has had, by default, JL's season of reckoning is pushed back to next year. If this years Fr and So aren't playa's next year, along with his recruits next year (better be WL ability or greater),,,,,,,
Let's time shift to last Sunday night....
How would we have responded to a prediction BU would lead by 20, lead almost wire to wire, and ultimately win by 9 (but were ahead by 12 before garbage time started)? I know how I would have responded: all right!
I am not into style points when BU loses, nor do I care too much about style points when BU wins. Could they have played better? Certainly....Could they have played worse? I think 5 L's in a row answers that. Did they play better than the 5 L's so far...All but the Duke game, I'd say yes.
Should we expect a finished team playing to their highest level post roster decimation? Probably not. Should we expect incremental improvement, and continued improvement over the course of the season? Certainly. I don't think this particular BU line up has played their best ball yet. They did show individual improvement.
Whether that will be enough to be successful and contend for the MVC is not relevant to me anymore. Seeing player progression and "buy in", seeing if the coaching staff can get through to their players and implement startegies that the team can successfully implement, is what I need to see to stay interested this year.
The ability of the new comers this year and the recruits next year are all important to me now. This year was going to be my Waterloo for JL's future tenure at BU. With the injuries BU has had, by default, JL's season of reckoning is pushed back to next year. If this years Fr and So aren't playa's next year, along with his recruits next year (better be WL ability or greater),,,,,,,
Buesch N Chips
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This is what is making people so mad, that they start creating negatives out of nothing and creating unreachable expectations that always are just slightly higher than what we get. When we lose and play well people say it is about the wins, when we win and have bad stretches then it is all about how we play. If we win AND play well, then it is all about "why didn't we do that in the last game?" Never focusing on what we actually accomplished. When we win it is because some player luckily went out of his head or we were doomed, when we lose it is Jim Les' fault.
It's not just BU fans, it happens all over. Bruce Weber, Lovie Smith, etc.
AZ, good to see your perspective. Let's give these kids a chance.
Braves4Life
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Maybe your best post ever AZ BU Fan! 