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UNI in trouble??

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BradleyJD

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Found this today, FWIW.......

"Bubble teams across the country got a boost when No. 25 Northern Iowa fell at Evansville, the last place team in the Missouri Valley, by a 55-54 score. That Aces win, only their second in the league all season and eighth overall, really hurts the Panthers' at-large hopes. If UNI doesn't win Arch Madness next weekend, their tourney hopes could be sunk."

It was in this blog: http://www.sbnation.com/2010/2/22/1321122/ncaa-bubble-teams-watch-2010-tournament-final-four
 
I think the NCAA selection committee will consider they were playing without their "star" center Eglseder. However, losing to the last place team in the league will be ammunition for all the committee members to use against them so they can get the 8th place BE, ACC, and Big 12 teams in the tournament.
 
SBNation is just a bunch of bloggers who I haven't found offer much insight on much of anything (I frequent 'Blog-A-Bull', and the folks over there would have you think Tyrus Thomas was a Hall of Famer). Even if UNI lost their next 2 games I think they'd still get in. Their profile is too strong. But they won't lose their next 2, so at worst they're 26-4 heading into the MVC semi's. The 26 win teams that didn't dance (I think there's 1 or 2) didn't have the profile that UNI has. Plus, the bubble is very, very weak this year, and very few bubble teams have the record or computer numbers of a UNI. The only thing that possibly took a hit last night was UNI's seeding.
 
BradleyJD said:
Found this today, FWIW.......

"Bubble teams across the country got a boost when No. 25 Northern Iowa fell at Evansville, the last place team in the Missouri Valley, by a 55-54 score. That Aces win, only their second in the league all season and eighth overall, really hurts the Panthers' at-large hopes. If UNI doesn't win Arch Madness next weekend, their tourney hopes could be sunk."

It was in this blog: http://www.sbnation.com/2010/2/22/1321122/ncaa-bubble-teams-watch-2010-tournament-final-four
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Sounds like an uneducated boob smoking a crack-pipe and blowing it out his arse.
 
A loss at Evansville did not hurt them as badly as it would had they lost to ODU in Bracketbusters. Yes, they have 2 bad losses, but they were still in the top 25 before last night.
If they win the next 2, they're a lock IMO, especially since people took some notice of them last year in the tourney.
 
This is what I hate about the best tournament in sports...you have a team like UConn who might end the year with 13 or 14 losses and now has serious consideration because they beat 3 top 10 teams(let's forget about some woeful losses), and then you have a team that dominated the 9th best conf in the country and has 4 losses to date, and somehow now they have to win their tourney or even get to finals to get a bid??? Insane and assinine at the same time. If UNI doesn't dance as an at-large, we all better hope for expansion to 96 teams, cuz it looks like the future is where losing 5 games can somehow be considered bubble
 
Da Coach said:
I think the NCAA selection committee will consider they were playing without their "star" center Eglseder. However, losing to the last place team in the league will be ammunition for all the committee members to use against them so they can get the 8th place BE, ACC, and Big 12 teams in the tournament.
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They can't. The NCAA has already said Last 10 and games played without key players can not be taken into account during this year's selection process.
 
has anyone learned anything over the past 4 years???
Of course they'd leave UNI out if they even had a tiny chance to do so...

The selection committee is not and has not been kind to any midmajor...
 
chitown fanatic said:
This is what I hate about the best tournament in sports...you have a team like UConn who might end the year with 13 or 14 losses and now has serious consideration because they beat 3 top 10 teams(let's forget about some woeful losses), and then you have a team that dominated the 9th best conf in the country and has 4 losses to date, and somehow now they have to win their tourney or even get to finals to get a bid??? Insane and assinine at the same time. If UNI doesn't dance as an at-large, we all better hope for expansion to 96 teams, cuz it looks like the future is where losing 5 games can somehow be considered bubble
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You are so right about UCONN, but it is how it is, UNI does not bring eyeballs to the TV set. The NCAA needs UCONNs of the world. UCONN gets opportunites all year long for "marque" wins because of the conference they play in. But they also will be given the benefit of the doubt because Calhoun was sick, no way UNI gets any benefit of any doubt.

But when you still are giving bubble consideration to the Cinnys, South Floridas, Seton Halls with their garbage in conference records because of the SOS or RPI, which are going to be strong they play in a strong conference, something is seriously wrong.

Ill say this with UNI they better not lose again until the finals of the MVC tourney.

I am wondering how the NCAA is going to handle the whole emplosion of the Pac 10 this year. Someone has to play out west. IS Cal/ASU/Gonzaga/St Marys enough. I predict someone from the Pac 10 gets in just because. Either ASU or Washington. The committee wont be able to handle themselves with only 1 Pac 10 team
 
You people need to step away from the edge. The sky is not falling.

Since 1994.... cause that's as far as Jerry Palm's RPI site goes back to....

Outright and Lone Conference Winners that did not win the Auto-Bid and were not selected to the field as an At-Large:

94 Weber St #59 RPI
95 Coll of Charleston #49
96 Iona #58
97 Iona #101
98 Gonzaga #68
99 UM-BC #115
00 Bowling Green #56
01 Richmond #43
02 Utah St #60
03 Coll of Charleston #67
04 Troy St #66
05 Miami-Oh #39
06 Manhattan #87
07 Vermont #85
08 VCU #54
09 Davidson #69

NOTE: LOWEST RPI of a Lone Conference Champ and left out was Miami-Oh at #39 in 2005 and the MAC was the 10th best Conference based on Conf RPI that year. Miami-Oh was 12-6 in Conference that year with an overall record of 18-10.

UNI is currently #22 in the RPI in the 9th best Conference. They are currently 14-3 and 24-4 overall.

THEY ARE A LOCK IN THE NCAA!
 
MacabreMob said:
You people need to step away from the edge. The sky is not falling.

Since 1994.... cause that's as far as Jerry Palm's RPI site goes back to....

Outright and Lone Conference Winners that did not win the Auto-Bid and were not selected to the field as an At-Large:

94 Weber St #59 RPI
95 Coll of Charleston #49
96 Iona #58
97 Iona #101
98 Gonzaga #68
99 UM-BC #115
00 Bowling Green #56
01 Richmond #43
02 Utah St #60
03 Coll of Charleston #67
04 Troy St #66
05 Miami-Oh #39
06 Manhattan #87
07 Vermont #85
08 VCU #54
09 Davidson #69

NOTE: LOWEST RPI of a Lone Conference Champ and left out was Miami-Oh at #39 in 2005 and the MAC was the 10th best Conference based on Conf RPI that year. Miami-Oh was 12-6 in Conference that year with an overall record of 18-10.

UNI is currently #22 in the RPI in the 9th best Conference. They are currently 14-3 and 24-4 overall.

THEY ARE A LOCK IN THE NCAA!
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And if they lose their next two games? :|

That will be a VERY long week for them to wait for the selections.
 
shaunguth said:
And if they lose their next two games? :|

That will be a VERY long week for them to wait for the selections.
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All right. So I suppose everyone figures they will lose their next 2 games.

Then the same can be said for other teams like Gonzaga and California.

Check this out.

Gonzaga
21-5
RPI 26
SOS 87
3-3 vs Top 50 RPI
8-3 vs Top 100 RPI

California
18-9
RPI 23
SOS 10
0-4 vs Top 50 RPI
5-7 vs Top 100 RPI

UNI
24-4
RPI 22
SOS 116
3-1 vs Top 50 RPI
8-1 vs Top 100 RPI
 
MacabreMob said:
All right. So I suppose everyone figures they will lose their next 2 games.

Then the same can be said for other teams like Gonzaga and California.

Check this out.

Gonzaga
21-5
RPI 26
SOS 87
3-3 vs Top 50 RPI
8-3 vs Top 100 RPI

California
18-9
RPI 23
SOS 10
0-4 vs Top 50 RPI
5-7 vs Top 100 RPI

UNI
24-4
RPI 22
SOS 116
3-1 vs Top 50 RPI
8-1 vs Top 100 RPI
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MM you can sight this all you want. Regardless of the facts, you are putting names schools in the same sentence with UNI. Regardless of what you and me are told the NCAA committee will give more consideration to the Cals and Gonzagas of the world then to UNI.

Just the eyeball test UNI better not lose again and if they do they better make sure it is on Sunday in STL.

All CBS, err I mean the NCAA needs is one small reason to leave UNI out of the dance.
 
Here's a list of some possible Bubble Bursters:

(RPI team name)
15 Butler
22 UNI
23 California
26 Gonzaga
35 Utah St
36 Siena
42 ODU
49 Cornell
53 UTEP
54 Kent

Here's a list of some teams that are in the Top 100 RPI and are leading their conferences but won't get an At-Large

67 Oakland
71 Weber St
73 Sam Houston St
74 Murray St
86 Wofford/99 Coll of Charleston
 
I would love to see Oakland dance. . .

Their non-con was a disappointment as they struggled to replace the scoring, shooting, and leadership of Kangas, but after starting 6-7 they've gone 16-1.

As we saw last year, they are built like a BCS team and could be a nightmare opening draw for nearly anyone in the field. . .
 
Another thing I find amusing.... I bet the bunch of people who claim UNI is on their way out will also tell me that this team is IN....

UNI
24-4
RPI 22
SOS 116
3-1 vs Top 50 RPI
8-1 vs Top 100 RPI

???????
18-10
RPI 65
SOS 59
4-6 vs Top 50 RPI
6-8 vs Top 100 RPI
 
tornado said:
has anyone learned anything over the past 4 years???
Of course they'd leave UNI out if they even had a tiny chance to do so...

The selection committee is not and has not been kind to any midmajor...
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...and you have Bob Huggins suggesting creating a 1-AA group like in football too.
 
and don't be fooled when any of the top coaches say they are in favor of expanding the NCAA Tournament to 96 or 100 teams...

they are only interested in getting more BCS teams that finish 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th in their respective leagues into the dance...

they are NOT in any way hinting additional mid-majors get in...and I am sure they'll devise some system to assure they get what they want.

remember...it was the BCS guys themselves that devised the RPI system for the sole purpose of showing that their 5-6-7th place teams were still
stronger than, better than, and more deserving of an at-large bid than any mid-major...
but once the RPI started to prove the exact opposite as they want, then they trash the whole RPI idea, and now they go with the "eye test"...that
hear repeated over and over...meaning they are using a subjective measure that they claim only they can accurately perform...and that lo and behold, it
favors the big boys... :roll:
 
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