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Suspension Lifted

Wow, after reading that statement from the State's attorney, I have serious doubts about the competance of his office.

Why were there parts of the police report that were mysteriously missing from the original report released?
Why did it take a Freedom of Information legal request for the PJ Star to get those missing parts at all? (Thank you PJ Star).

And finally, why does Lyons use the term "ligatures" to describe the marks on her neck? A ligature is a binding using some sort of rope, cord, or material. That term implies that the girl had a rope tied around her neck!

And when the girl wanted to recant some of her story and drop charges, why weren't more of those details made public.

Sounds to me like an overaggressive states attorney's office trying to slant the report released to the public for the purpose of building a case where there isn't one.

Who's running that office? Mike Nifong?
 
Da Coach said:
Wow, after reading that statement from the State's attorney, I have serious doubts about the competance of his office.

Why were there parts of the police report that were mysteriously missing from the original report released?
Why did it take a Freedom of Information legal request for the PJ Star to get those missing parts at all? (Thank you PJ Star).

And finally, why does Lyons use the term "ligatures" to describe the marks on her neck? A ligature is a binding using some sort of rope, cord, or material. That term implies that the girl had a rope tied around her neck!

And when the girl wanted to recant some of her story and drop charges, why weren't more of those details made public.

Sounds to me like an overaggressive states attorney's office trying to slant the report released to the public for the purpose of building a case where there isn't one.

Who's running that office? Mike Nifong?
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Election year politics?
 
I agree with another poster that BU handled it appropriately.

Lyons is not on a witchhunt here and has done a fine job in Peoria.

I thought it was explained pretty well in the article and we have to let the process take its course.

Good to have Ruff back for sure
 
Da Coach said:
Wow, after reading that statement from the State's attorney, I have serious doubts about the competance of his office.

Why were there parts of the police report that were mysteriously missing from the original report released?
Why did it take a Freedom of Information legal request for the PJ Star to get those missing parts at all? (Thank you PJ Star).

And finally, why does Lyons use the term "ligatures" to describe the marks on her neck? A ligature is a binding using some sort of rope, cord, or material. That term implies that the girl had a rope tied around her neck!

And when the girl wanted to recant some of her story and drop charges, why weren't more of those details made public.

Sounds to me like an overaggressive states attorney's office trying to slant the report released to the public for the purpose of building a case where there isn't one.

Who's running that office? Mike Nifong?
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the ligature description was used earlier in reports DC. I think that was how it was written up from the hospital.

Also I don't think he's trying to slant anything...I think he explained it pretty well.
Daniel gets to play and his case will be heard in March
 
RedSeaRamblin07 said:
Surprised nobody else pointed out this quote from the PJStar story...


"Bradley conducted an internal review of the incident, which resulted in the senior point guard being arrested and charged with misdemeanor domestic battery."

More fantastic reporting from these jokers
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What exactly is wrong with it? It jumped out me first time too, but after re-reading it, there's nothing wrong with except for being perhaps grammatically poor.
 
Yeah, I think it's just written poorly. The way it is written implies the BU internal investigation led to Ruffin's arrest. However, the intent was to say the incident led to Ruffin's arrest.

Someone forgot that "of the incident" is a phrase describing the investigation. So, when they put a comma and the word "which," they are expounding on the investigation and NOT the incident.
 
jasonpeoria911 said:
Lyons is the Peoria County States Attorney who'll likely be canned when his term is up. He has been notorius for his inconsistent charges from case to case the last few yrs. Case in point this past summer. Lyons hung a 15 y/o by the ropes and charged him with murder after throwing a cement block off an overpass that killed a passenger in a car on I-74. The kid allegedly didn't mean any harm but was still charged with murder. Well shortly after that the BU incident happened. No murder charges filed in that case. Oh man the outrage in the city, especially the black folk. So as you can imagine, Lyons lowered the brick throwers murder charge to involuntary manslaughter or some crap like that. I'm also sure he knows the implications if Ruff does happen to get convicted next month. Thousands of voters turned away. Gotta love politics.

Jason
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I think Lyons will be just fine. You cannot compare the two instances. One was intentional by a ???kid??? with a previous rap sheet while the other was an freak albeit dumb accident.
 
Dallas Brave said:
Personally speaking, I think BU's (i.e, the President's) handling of DR's situation was so mangled, I am skipping President Glasser's visit to Dallas and taking a year off from donations to the school. I would prefer to see more decisive leadership in the future. The next time they can see my money is 2010.
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Out of curiousity, why do you think that BU mangled the situation? I had quite a few post yesterday stating how President Glasser needed to step up and make a decisive statement/judgement one way or the other, but from what I am reading this morning, I think that she handled the situation well. --it is early so I am getting caught up on the news--
and fwiw, I clearly havent been on the new President's bandwagon.
 
Just another thought--
Here was a part of Kirk Wessler's story in today's PJ Star--


More details about Ruffin's version of that incident emerged Wednesday after Peoria County State's Attorney Kevin Lyons released previously undisclosed portions of the police report.
"We all know something happened. There was a confrontation, but on who started it - on that issue we're all rowing the same boat because we weren't there," Lyons said. "The issue here is, did in fact these two persons have a confrontation that led to a battery?"
During the argument, Ruffin said, he grabbed White by the coat in an "attempt to guide her out of the apartment when she wouldn't leave," according to the police report.
At the doorway of the apartment, White resisted and swung her fists at Ruffin, so he "pinned her" against the wall as a way to not get hit, Ruffin told police. His statements were omitted from the police report released Monday to the Journal Star, which had filed a Freedom of Information Act request for it.
As he held her against the wall, White "fell to the floor," where Ruffin again "pinned" her until he could open the door and "guide her out," the report said. Ruffin said he grabbed White's coat in the front or chest area while doing so.
Ruffin said he noticed White's lip bleeding after she "struck her chin or mouth on the corner of the door," the report said.
"I didn't hit her. I just pinned her against the wall and floor," Ruffin told police when asked if he choked White.
Ruffin was subsequently arrested then charged after his statements were inconsistent with White's injuries, which police described as "red ligature type markings" on the front and right side of her neck. He remains free on bond, pending a March 18 court appearance.
"We charge a person based upon circumstances," Lyons said, "of things that are visible and audible, the immediacy of her claim, whether or not there is some other plausible explanation for what we observe or hear - in this case cuts and marks to her throat - and whether the defendant tells an account of what we believe to be true."
Lyons was not swayed by a second statement White gave police hours after her first one Saturday in which she said she didn't want to press charges against Ruffin and "just wanted the whole thing to go away."

In the account today, is no mention that there was a withess of the entire incident, who apparently corroborated Daniel's side of the story. Why isn't that mentioned? Isn't that important? Since 100% of all domestic abuse cases come down to a he said-she said difference, it would seem to me that the rare case where an actual witness exists, it should be taken into consideration, IMO.

And I think the President did a commendable job and made the right decision, in a short time, with many factors and pressures from diffrent sides weighing on her.
 
lefty said:
I agree with another poster that BU handled it appropriately.

Lyons is not on a witchhunt here and has done a fine job in Peoria.

I thought it was explained pretty well in the article and we have to let the process take its course.

Good to have Ruff back for sure
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not everyone thinks so, and one of those people is Phil Luciano....
http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/02/03/catch-and-release-kevin-at-it-again/

who has criticized Kevin Lyons before for inappropriate justice.
If you click on the link at the bottom for Lyons, it'll take you to other cases such as the Monterius Hinkle case where Lyons didn't bother to pursue charges against a rapist, so just as soon as he gets out of jail, he rapes another woman!!
http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/...-took-three-arrests-to-charge-alleged-rapist/

"police officers are frustrated with the Lyons office for not too often not prosecuting the people they have arrested"


I am not saying I even care about all this, but Luciano is conveniently forgetting how he has QUITE RECENTLY criticized Lyons in the past and now seems to like the fact that Lyons is being pretty rough on Ruff.

Luciano isn't the only PJ Star columnist who is a bit incensed at the way Lyons has handled this case...so could Lyons' actions be a reaction to satisfy the PJ Star people?
You gotta read this one...
http://www.pjstar.com/stories/021708/TER_BFNSRBJQ.009.php


Remember....one of the reasons Lyons wasn't willing to pursue this serial rapist Hinkle, was BECAUSE the women weren't willing to testify, so why is he pursuing Ruffin whose alleged crime isn't even in the same universe as the serial rapist!!
Sounds like he's trying to correct his past mistakes and taking it out on DR.
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cach...inkle"+and+"luciano"&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us
 
So glad to hear Ruffin cleared!! I just hope the legal process doesn't drag out too long and the case gets dropped soon.

But the damage to him and BU has been done. Far less people will read about how his name will be cleared than those that only read about the charges in AP stories picked up by papers across Illinois or heard them on ESPN. I can't blame the media too much for that though, negative news draws more attention than positive news. Ah well, just move forward.

I also like Kirk Wessler's blog today about how things were reported in the PJ Star and why.
http://www2.pjstar.com/index.php?/wessler/article
Maybe he decided to post this after reading so many complaints here. From this, I would say the PJ Star did a fair/average job in their reporting, it's tough when no one wants to talk about anything and the deadline for the morning's paper is the night before.
 
I am happy that the university has finally made a decision. I am very happy for Daniel Ruffin who in 5 years has been a good student and representative for BU and our community. I hope both parties involved have learned valuable lessons from this incident. It appears to me that both have some responsibility in this situation, and both could have kept it from happening. It would be nice if both parties could go on with their lives, with this issue behind them. I love BU basketball and don't like losing games, but the lessons hopefully that these 2 young adults can learn from this is more important then a couple of games. Good luck to both individuals, and I wish them success in life.
 
Before, I was critical of how universities take too long making decisions because they committee everything to death and nobody takes all of the information presented to make a decisive call until it is often too late and everyone already knows the outcome (long fragmented sentence that would be ripped apart by an English teacher, I know ;) )

In the Ruffin case I commend Bradley University and President Glasser for taking an appropriate amount of time to gather the facts and make a quick, informed and decisive call in this case. Way to go President Glasser! :)
 
Da Coach said:
Just another thought--
Here was a part of Kirk Wessler's story in today's PJ Star--


More details about Ruffin's version of that incident emerged Wednesday after Peoria County State's Attorney Kevin Lyons released previously undisclosed portions of the police report.
"We all know something happened. There was a confrontation, but on who started it - on that issue we're all rowing the same boat because we weren't there," Lyons said. "The issue here is, did in fact these two persons have a confrontation that led to a battery?"
During the argument, Ruffin said, he grabbed White by the coat in an "attempt to guide her out of the apartment when she wouldn't leave," according to the police report.
At the doorway of the apartment, White resisted and swung her fists at Ruffin, so he "pinned her" against the wall as a way to not get hit, Ruffin told police. His statements were omitted from the police report released Monday to the Journal Star, which had filed a Freedom of Information Act request for it.
As he held her against the wall, White "fell to the floor," where Ruffin again "pinned" her until he could open the door and "guide her out," the report said. Ruffin said he grabbed White's coat in the front or chest area while doing so.
Ruffin said he noticed White's lip bleeding after she "struck her chin or mouth on the corner of the door," the report said.
"I didn't hit her. I just pinned her against the wall and floor," Ruffin told police when asked if he choked White.
Ruffin was subsequently arrested then charged after his statements were inconsistent with White's injuries, which police described as "red ligature type markings" on the front and right side of her neck. He remains free on bond, pending a March 18 court appearance.
"We charge a person based upon circumstances," Lyons said, "of things that are visible and audible, the immediacy of her claim, whether or not there is some other plausible explanation for what we observe or hear - in this case cuts and marks to her throat - and whether the defendant tells an account of what we believe to be true."
Lyons was not swayed by a second statement White gave police hours after her first one Saturday in which she said she didn't want to press charges against Ruffin and "just wanted the whole thing to go away."

In the account today, is no mention that there was a withess of the entire incident, who apparently corroborated Daniel's side of the story. Why isn't that mentioned? Isn't that important? Since 100% of all domestic abuse cases come down to a he said-she said difference, it would seem to me that the rare case where an actual witness exists, it should be taken into consideration, IMO.

And I think the President did a commendable job and made the right decision, in a short time, with many factors and pressures from diffrent sides weighing on her.
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Agreed. Given her background in law, allowed her to handle this situation about as well as anyone could.
 
abesimpson said:
.......Kirk Wessler's blog today about how things were reported in the PJ Star and why.
http://www2.pjstar.com/index.php?/wessler/article.
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A couple things I don't like about this explanation in his blog...although I accept that maybe they just didn't get the info that was published elsewhere, such as the statement Saturday & Sunday by numerous news outlest, quoting the police in regards to the cut lip.

First, it appears he tries to create an atmosphere of bias against the university by immediately describing the Saturday statement release by Bradley as "Bradley had issued a terse press release."
By using the term "terse", he immediately tries to sway reader opinion into thinking it was a poorly done release, brief, not satisfactory.
(the definition of "terse" in addition to meaning short, also suggests a sense of rudeness.
"a response so curt as to be almost rude"
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/terse )

But despite this explanation, I believe they were quick to report the stuff that was negative and harmful to Daniel Ruffin, but very slow, deliberate, and reluctant to print the stuff that is favorable to Ruffin, using the line that they had to get further info in order to substantiate it.

Again, I ask why was the PJ Star NOT AWARE of the report that was published Saturday and Sunday by their OWN SISTER PUBLICATION, the Springfield Journal-Register, that Ruffin was simply trying to get the woman to leave when she got a cut lip?

Here it is.......in Sunday morning's edition, quoting
"A Peoria police spokesman said ..."

and saying..."a 20-year-old woman accused Ruffin of cutting her lip as he tried to get her out of his apartment."
http://www.sj-r.com/Sports/stories/25816.asp

but this aspect of the story did not appear in any edition of the PJ Star until FOUR full days later, on Wednesday....here it is buried deep in the story by Greg Stewart.
http://www.pjstar.com/stories/022708/TRI_BFTA9E64.083.php
 
I definitely want to be on record saying that I commend President Glasser and the rest of the decision-makers on a masterful job handling this situation.

Unfortunately, it looks as if that is an opinion that is not shared by many on this board. I hope I'm wrong.
 
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