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I don't know Rusty. I know what you are saying but I think most are saying they don't know why the student's aren't showing up to see BRADLEY not some visiting team that has the name. Why isn't bradley the team you come to see? You know what I mean. The student's should want to come and see their school play not just to see the Mich St's.

Another thing I noticed is the acoustics! Man it was bad. After redbird arena where it felt so enclosed and everyone was facing everyone and you could just hear things so well made it feel even smaller. Carver doesn't have that. It feels big and the only time it feels smaller is when it gets loud. I say mic the student section and band MORE because, dang, it was quiet where I sat. It's like a whole other territory.
 
Future Walk-On, DUBrave, Stryker, and anybody else let me throw this out there to get your thoughts. In recent years on campus their has been a tremendous increase in the number of task forces or sweeps that actively look for get togethers or parties. They want to check ID's and give breathalizer tests to everyone. I bet you know someone who has had their off campus house barged into. If you fail you get a very expensive ticket. Has that turned into resentment or prevented students from attending pre-game festivities? These get togethers were a blast in past years :biggrin:8):lol: for many students but new campus policies just put in place have made it harder to get in the mood and get crazy. Put it this way, it was alot easier in the past to pre-game or tailgate. Besides our record being around .500 this year has this been a factor in low student attendance?
 
BuB said:
Future Walk-On, DUBrave, Stryker, and anybody else let me throw this out there to get your thoughts. In recent years on campus their has been a tremendous increase in the number of task forces or sweeps that actively look for get togethers or parties. They want to check ID's and give breathalizer tests to everyone. I bet you know someone who has had their off campus house barged into. If you fail you get a very expensive ticket. Has that turned into resentment or prevented students from attending pre-game festivities? These get togethers were a blast in past years :biggrin:8):lol: for many students but new campus policies just put in place have made it harder to get in the mood and get crazy. Put it this way, it was alot easier in the past to pre-game or tailgate. Besides our record being around .500 this year has this been a factor in low student attendance?
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on what basis are they breathalyzing people? If it's like you say someone needs to challenge such policies. They registering very high on my doesntsoundright-o-meter.
 
Half of the issue is student apathy, but there still is much room for improvement with better advertising. Why is there no representative ever outside of a cafeteria on game days selling tickets for a dollar and pitching the free transportation? Its honestly like they have no interest if students show up or not. There should be student only marketing, on campus advertising, etc. Whoever is directly responsible for Red Pride is also at fault. Talk about another unadvertised and lame program. Step it up Bradley Marketing.
 
Barging in off-campus housing is illegal without a warrant or probably cause. So, if that is happening then students need to find out what their rights are.
 
BuB said:
Future Walk-On, DUBrave, Stryker, and anybody else let me throw this out there to get your thoughts. In recent years on campus their has been a tremendous increase in the number of task forces or sweeps that actively look for get togethers or parties. They want to check ID's and give breathalizer tests to everyone. I bet you know someone who has had their off campus house barged into. If you fail you get a very expensive ticket. Has that turned into resentment or prevented students from attending pre-game festivities? These get togethers were a blast in past years :biggrin:8):lol: for many students but new campus policies just put in place have made it harder to get in the mood and get crazy. Put it this way, it was alot easier in the past to pre-game or tailgate. Besides our record being around .500 this year has this been a factor in low student attendance?
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This is definitely a non-issue. Task force isnt here on weekdays, unless it is halloween or something of that nature. Pregaming and such simply doesnt happen because students dont even know there is a game that day and/or no attempts have been made to actively get them there by BU marketing.
 
Who says you have to be completely inebriated to enjoy being at a basketball game?

I just find it utterly ridiculous of the lack of student attendance at games...

It seems like most only go to the ISU game and thats because its ISU and based on the hatred towards the opposing school...heck, half that go to that game spend more time socializing in the crowd than actually watching the game...

I know Bradley is considered more an academic institution, but there have to be some basketball fans out there somewhere...and there has to be a way to get more to the arena somehow.

Its just sad really as the BU student setup may not be the greatest, but its also not that bad...they're given both sections behind the bench and are alloted all seats behind those in the upper bowl. As much as ISU is given a better location (would compare to Sec 4), they are given many less seats to work with.

I don't know what has to be done to get more students to the games, but it certainly can't be ticket prices, as the BU student package is quite a bit cheaper than most schools as far as I know...

Winning would help, but even in the Sweet 16 year, it wasn't like they were having trouble scraping student seats together for people...

Get to the games, support your school!
 
SaintLouBrave22 said:
Who says you have to be completely inebriated to enjoy being at a basketball game?

I just find it utterly ridiculous of the lack of student attendance at games...

It seems like most only go to the ISU game and thats because its ISU and based on the hatred towards the opposing school...heck, half that go to that game spend more time socializing in the crowd than actually watching the game...

I know Bradley is considered more an academic institution, but there have to be some basketball fans out there somewhere...and there has to be a way to get more to the arena somehow.

Its just sad really as the BU student setup may not be the greatest, but its also not that bad...they're given both sections behind the bench and are alloted all seats behind those in the upper bowl. As much as ISU is given a better location (would compare to Sec 4), they are given many less seats to work with.

I don't know what has to be done to get more students to the games, but it certainly can't be ticket prices, as the BU student package is quite a bit cheaper than most schools as far as I know...

Winning would help, but even in the Sweet 16 year, it wasn't like they were having trouble scraping student seats together for people...

Get to the games, support your school!
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Student turnout was very very good in 06'-07' and 07'-08'. Since then it has tailed off quite a bit. And no you do not need to be wasted to enjoy good basketball lol!
 
BuB said:
Future Walk-On, DUBrave, Stryker, and anybody else let me throw this out there to get your thoughts. In recent years on campus their has been a tremendous increase in the number of task forces or sweeps that actively look for get togethers or parties. They want to check ID's and give breathalizer tests to everyone. I bet you know someone who has had their off campus house barged into. If you fail you get a very expensive ticket. Has that turned into resentment or prevented students from attending pre-game festivities? These get togethers were a blast in past years :biggrin:8):lol: for many students but new campus policies just put in place have made it harder to get in the mood and get crazy. Put it this way, it was alot easier in the past to pre-game or tailgate. Besides our record being around .500 this year has this been a factor in low student attendance?
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I was talking to someone about this the other day. It seems that with all the new policies the administration is trying to instill they have really made a lot of students not like what is going on at BU. I think that feeling of displeasure has made its way to the athletics as well because now I know many students who have no pride in BU what so ever because they feel the administration is out to get them. If I wasn't such an avid sports fan I think I would be in the same boat. This school isn't half as fun as it was 2 years ago, and hearing stories from 5 years ago blows my mind.
 
thefish7 said:
on what basis are they breathalyzing people? If it's like you say someone needs to challenge such policies. They registering very high on my doesntsoundright-o-meter.
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The main reasons they quote are noise violations such as disturbing the peace and visual presence of plastic cups. This is a big reason why many houses have their drapes and curtains taped to the side of windows so no one can see inside. Don't even think about walking outside with a cup.
 
DeltaBrave03 said:
This school isn't half as fun as it was 2 years ago, and hearing stories from 5 years ago blows my mind.
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If you heard stories of 20 years ago I'm afraid you would blow a gasket. I'm one that believes that we are becoming a society due to insurance companies too much of a nanny state. I know some of my contemporaries will blame society for this development because times have changed with the demise of family values. I believe it is more of an economic challenge that universities are having to navigate due to the increased liabilities. Perhaps a bit of both is true but I'd find it real hard to believe that today's BU student body is any less mature then in yearssssss past. They have to grow up like we did eventually and why not in a controlled, safe environment like we had. Bad things have happened but in the real world really bad things happen every day. I thought P-town was a bit of a police state when I was there now it seems we are talking Gestapo like tactics.

Great, push it all underground where nothing good will come of it like everything else in society!
 
SaintLouBrave22 said:
Who says you have to be completely inebriated to enjoy being at a basketball game?


Did not mean to imply this. Just being able to get together with friends anytime game night or not without having to worry about a task force. Since most freshmen and sophmores are not 21 they cannot pre-game like past students did. Cannot go to The Fieldhouse or a BWW and get in the mood like older Bradley fans can.




BradleyDU4 said:
This is definitely a non-issue. Task force isnt here on weekdays, unless it is halloween or something of that nature. Pregaming and such simply doesnt happen because students dont even know there is a game that day and/or no attempts have been made to actively get them there by BU marketing.
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Your right , no task force presence during the week but the weekends are a different story. Certainly not every weekend but I am just saying... alot more than before. You are also right about students not being tuned in on game day. It doesn't get any cheaper for a ticket and transportation.
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Future Walk-On said:
like i said...it is hard for kids who have never heard of BU basketball to come here and be instant die hards.

if this was any big time program nationally it would be diff.

i imagine they would have to come here and hear about our team being good....then maybe more would be interested from the beginning
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IMO, if they never heard of BU basketball they aren't basketball fans to begin with. It's the one's who are basketball fans who disappoint me when they don't show to support their team, win or lose.
 
BU_EMT128 said:
and its a shame... Because I KNOW that arena can ROCK. Case and point, that arena was the loudest I have ever heard it for the Michigan State game. The only time i have seen the entire arena stand and scream the entire game.
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This was very similar to the ODU NIT game back in 1994. Now THAT was loud! And I remember the crowd at several other games I went to was loud as well, especially in games where Bradley fell way behind but made comebacks in the second half. The crowd actually did what they were supposed to do and rallied the team to a comeback, not acting passive and waiting for Bradley to spark their own rally.

That's the problem with this place at times, and it's embarrassing to watch a game on national or regional tv and hearing a pin drop!

Having said that though, the crowd should be jacked next Tuesday against archrival ISU red and on Saturday the 13th against Top 25 UNI. If not, we're in REAL trouble!
 
Rusty 54 said:
Another thing that might hurt the size of the student section is that most of the students who are not from Peoria have no idea about the history of Bradley basketball. Coming in as a freshman I had no idea that Bradley was once a national power. I had heard of Hersey Hawkins but other then that didn't know anything. The Sweet 16 really got students fired up, but after that there has been a rapid decline of interest. Just this year, I think how and when we lost our games hurt us. There was a buzz on campus after the win over Illinois, but the next two home games were Western Carolina and Loyola. That might have pretty much killed off the excitement for a lot of the more fair-weather students. There might have been a chance to build a little more of the student fan base after the MSU, SIU and Evansville wins, but the losing to Creighton and then getting blown out at isu stopped any momentum that could have been gained.

Also, the lack of a big name home opponent didn't help. Don't take this as an insult, I think we had a schedule that set us up for a chance at an at-large if we would have won the games we needed too and I realize that big name schools are not exactly lining up to play here, but there was no Michigan State or Butler or any other "name" school that students would get pumped up to go see.
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Well there are no excuses next week. If Illinois St. and Top 25 Northern Iowa can't attract students to those games, then things are more hopeless than I thought! You can't get any better "name" schools during the conference season than these two! Hopefully the atmosphere will be much different next week, but again it starts with a win at Evansville this Saturday.
 
Yeah the police have been known to use some unsavory tactics to score big ticket counts at Bradley and other schools. Furthermore, the student body is getting better about it. I know there have been quite a few tickets having been thrown out due to cameras, primarily at fraternity houses, catching police entering premises illegally to catch people for ticketing purposes.

It should however be noted that this isn't a Bradley problem. it is a state wide task force in Illinois - spurred by the premise of undermining under-aged drinking, but doesn't really appear to actually combat the problem. I know when I was on the student government exec board, I heard regularly from trustees and university board members very much against this policy. In fact i remember distinctly having a conversation with a trustee about a letter he had received from the parents of a student that had been ticketed while standing outside his fraternity house having a beer with his parents on parents weekend, he was under-aged. He got a ticket, and the parents got a ticket for providing alcohol to a minor. needless to say, he was not thrilled by the letter. They saw it as a deterrent for students to want to come to Bradley.

As for how any of this relates to bball - I don;t think it plays much a role. I've never really seen a task force troop come knocking that early in the day. Assuming you are pregaming for a standard 7 o clock game, you'd probably start drinking at like 5 at the latest in most instances, and the task force kinda prided itself on the ability to bust up big late night parties where they could use the guise of noise violation as their premise. Also small groups aren't really appealing, they are literally going for like 20-60 tickets at a time, judging from the cases i saw during my stint in student government.

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SFP said:
Barging in off-campus housing is illegal without a warrant or probably cause. So, if that is happening then students need to find out what their rights are.
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Hmmm. Maybe that's why I can't get the video to Channelsurfing.net games on my computer this year. The "BU Gestapo" must be blocking my computer! ;) :D :twisted:
 
CzechBrave said:
Yeah the police have been known to use some unsavory tactics to score big ticket counts at Bradley and other schools. Furthermore, the student body is getting better about it. I know there have been quite a few tickets having been thrown out due to cameras, primarily at fraternity houses, catching police entering premises illegally to catch people for ticketing purposes.

It should however be noted that this isn't a Bradley problem. it is a state wide task force in Illinois - spurred by the premise of undermining under-aged drinking, but doesn't really appear to actually combat the problem. I know when I was on the student government exec board, I heard regularly from trustees and university board members very much against this policy. In fact i remember distinctly having a conversation with a trustee about a letter he had received from the parents of a student that had been ticketed why standing outside his fraternity house having a beer with his parents on parents weekend, he was under-aged. He got a ticket, and the parents got a ticket for providing alcohol to a minor.

As for how any of this relates to bball - I don;t think it plays much a role. I've never really seen a task force troop come knocking that early in the day. Assuming you are pregaming for a standard 7 o clock game, you'd probably start drinking at like 5 at the latest in most instances, and the task force kinda prided itself on the ability to bust up big late night parties where they could use the guise of noise violation as their premise. Also small groups aren't really appealing, they are literally going for like 20-60 tickets at a time, judging from the cases i saw during my stint in student government.
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Well, if the cops want to curb underage drinking, why don't they just issue warrants? Before someone says otherwise, I am most certainly not defending illegal behavior by the police, but at the same time I don't want to be killed by a drunk driver either! I know underage drinking is part of the college "experience", and if done discreetly I don't think anyone will notice, but at the same time I certainly don't want to encourage it either for the very reason I gave above.

And yes, as far as any relation to basketball, I don't think it plays much of a role either. I rarely drink, and I certainly don't need to drink to get into the spirit of the game.

Just give me a shot of caffenine from a can of Pepsi and you can see how "wild" I can get! ;) :D
 
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