In reality we are in the dark about recruiting as in the previous regime but one thing is certain whatever recruit we get they have a chance at getting decent playing time. What I do want to know is why are we not getting the players we really want and perhaps should be at our level? There should be no mention of our facilities being bad, we hired a coach that has won in the past and we have some of the most passionate fans in all of college basketball. So what gives folks? What's your opinion? Build it and they will come was promised! I'd have to suspect something is getting in the way of signing the better recruits.
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Recruiting?
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bradleybraves1
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I'd have to suspect you are wrong. Nothing is getting in the way of landing quality recruits. We had two scholarships to give and have signed one of the better juco PF's and, quite possibly, the best available PG in the state of Illinois. What more do you want? I'm sure if any additional scholarships become available we'll see similar quality recruits signing as well.
lake Camelot
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I don't know all the players we go after, but I would think Coty Clake would be recruit 1 and Pickett 1A. I think Bell had to be one of our top targets.
I am sure guys like J Parker or Austin would be at the top of our list but I don't count them as misses. They are such longshots they don't count to me.
I know we looked at a couple JUCO's out west that were highly thought of but it seemed like we stopped recruiting them for some reason.
I think we are doing OK on our recruiting. We need to hit on someone that develops like Anthony Parker did. I think to get recruits that are much higher ranked than Pickett we will have to get our program to a level like Wichita or Creighton.
I am sure guys like J Parker or Austin would be at the top of our list but I don't count them as misses. They are such longshots they don't count to me.
I know we looked at a couple JUCO's out west that were highly thought of but it seemed like we stopped recruiting them for some reason.
I think we are doing OK on our recruiting. We need to hit on someone that develops like Anthony Parker did. I think to get recruits that are much higher ranked than Pickett we will have to get our program to a level like Wichita or Creighton.
It's my guess there will be 2 to 3, and possibly more additional recruits this spring, and they will be high quality kids who will contribute immediately. There have been recruits at each of the last couple games, and others who have visited the campus and facilities when there wasn't a game to attend. In some cases, the coaches are open about the recruits we are pursuing, but for now they are preferring to be candid and secretive until the scholarship situation is resolved.
wily coyote
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I agree with you .I think we are going to get much better kids in the future. I heard one recruiting source say the PG we are getting, was better then the PG from Crete Monee the Illini signed. I guess time will tell but in order for next year to be better some changes need to happen
Future Walk-On
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How about
Wells Prosser Pickett DSE/Walt Bell
that would be cool if bell and pickett are good good
Wells Prosser Pickett DSE/Walt Bell
that would be cool if bell and pickett are good good
lake Camelot
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If you are saying Wells as the starter, I would be shocked. He seems to have a nice touch, and shows potential. I just don't see him as a starter with his first year of play.
Stryker
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I'm not to worried about recruiting at this point. Maybe I will be before next fall but not right now. We have two very good players coming in in Pickett and Bell, and I expect to see a few more new players before next fall. There is a lot of playing time to be had for incoming players at this point. We have the facilities. They will come.
Let me also mention one factor related to recruiting. There have been some who have said that Bradley is not at any disadvantage academically with recruiting. But Geno may be learning what Jim Les and Jim Molinari also found out, that Bradley does have this disadvantage.
Bradley does not have a Physical Education curriculum. Most state schools, and some private schools do. Especially with recruiting junior college kids, some of the better kids have a number of their credit hours in their junior college's physical education curriculum since it is sometimes easier to maintain passing grades in PE (no offense to you PE majors). Since those credits are not accepted at Bradley, by the time those credits are subtracted from their total credits, they do not have enough credits to be admitted at Bradley. I know of one highly rated juco kid that Jim Les got a verbal commitment from a couple years ago, but when his transcript was examined, he was not admissable to Bradley. He ended up at South Alabama.
Bradley does not have a Physical Education curriculum. Most state schools, and some private schools do. Especially with recruiting junior college kids, some of the better kids have a number of their credit hours in their junior college's physical education curriculum since it is sometimes easier to maintain passing grades in PE (no offense to you PE majors). Since those credits are not accepted at Bradley, by the time those credits are subtracted from their total credits, they do not have enough credits to be admitted at Bradley. I know of one highly rated juco kid that Jim Les got a verbal commitment from a couple years ago, but when his transcript was examined, he was not admissable to Bradley. He ended up at South Alabama.
FlyingSpaghettiMonster
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It is surprising that Bradley still doesn't have PE. At least from the outside it seems to be an easy program to start up. There's always more to getting it started, and I would imagine that accreditation would be the biggest issue.
BU staying quiet on recruiting without available scholarships is the right move IMO. While there are probably players that aren't returning (by choice or not), it doesn't serve any purpose to make it public during the season.
Most PE majors are football players at BCS schools. It is a major encouraged by some football programs because the coaches can be around their kids all the time and make sure they stay eligible and graduate. I would guess most non-football schools don't have a PE curriculum, but some do.
I guess that might be an advantage for those schools that have D1 football like SIU, ISU, and MSU.
That's somewhat interesting about credits. When I went to ICC, there was a rule of thumb that if you were not going to a school with an established credit transfer (ICC to BU, ISU, UIUC.. was already established) then you want an associates degree because the associates essentially results in all credits transferring.
Due to NCAA rules in the past few years, it sounds like jucos must now get their associates . I would think any juco transfer with an associates would have at least 60 credits at Bradley (But I guess a major does need a certain number of specific credits so it makes a change in major more difficult when you consider graduation)
bradleybraves1
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That was more of a character issue than academic. Bradley cannot afford to bring in anyone of questionable character at this critical juncture of the turnaround process. We saw what happened when Les reached with guys like Williams, Fears, Byucks... Our program is still trying to recover from that fiasco.
I am not an expert, but I would guess that not all associates degrees are the same. This example I am aware of, the player did get his associates degree, but not all of the credits that were accumulated at the Kansas juco were transferrable to Bradley. They were transferrable to other schools, because he had no problem enrolling at University of South Alabama.
That was my point. Each school may have their own standards that they impose on coaches recruiting players with certain issues. They are not always academic issues.
I have no problem with BU or any mid-major for that matter reaching out to someone whom has had character issues in the past. That is as long as those issues were not very egregious and the person has shown some signs that they have improved. If the situation is right, I have no problem using one scholarship as a gamble that could have the potential of a big payoff to the program as far as talent is concerned. That gamble scholarship would have to come with the understanding of a zero tolerance policy as well. IMHO, JL reached out to too many of these guys during a short time frame which led to us doing some patchwork recruiting.