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Rayvonte Rice is #1 draft pick

This doesn't surprise me at all. He is a stud. How did we let Drake get him when he has to drive through Peoria to get to Des Moines? I sure wish he would have been a Brave.
 
Although I know better than to actually think this, I don't feel Bradley fans would have been thrilled with the signing of a 6'1-6'2 forward. Everytime I have seen him, he plays near the basket, or occasionally drives from the perimeter. He isn't a great shooter and is strongest finishing at the basket. He isn't a good enough ball handler to be a 1 or a good enough shooter to be a 2, and at 220lb, he would be a 3.

However, if you can get past the size issues, he is one heck of a player. He is not only strong and solidly built, but is quick for his size. He will pose matchup nightmares on the offensive end...most players will either be too soft or too slow to guard him.
 
tornado said:
The Drake signee is the top draft pick in the Iowa Capital City League draft for their summer league....well ahead of such players as Josh Young,
and all the other Iowa State & Drake players and recruits...
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/ar...aft?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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Interesting way they drafted though:

Teams chose from Drake players first, followed by Iowa State, then all others available, which included former and current high school and college players.

Drake??™s Ryan Wedel was the next pick after Rice. Diante Garrett was the top selection from the Iowa State section. Cyclone recruit Jordan Railey was second. Former Drake standout Josh Young was the first player chosen from the others available.
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wily coyote said:
This doesn't surprise me at all. He is a stud. How did we let Drake get him when he has to drive through Peoria to get to Des Moines? I sure wish he would have been a Brave.
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RR = Nate Minnoy...a great HS player but won't be able to do the things he did in high school in a college setting where everyone is taller than he is...
 
cpacmel said:
Interesting way they drafted though:
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Teams chose from Drake players first, followed by Iowa State, then all others available, which included former and current high school and college players.
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There's actually a good reason they do it that way. There are NCAA rules about how many returning players from any one college can be on the same summer league team. I believe that maximum is 2.

By drafting all the Drake players in one block followed by all the Iowa State players, they make sure that none of the teams have too many players from one of the schools.
 
DUBulldog said:
There's actually a good reason they do it that way. There are NCAA rules about how many returning players from any one college can be on the same summer league team. I believe that maximum is 2.

By drafting all the Drake players in one block followed by all the Iowa State players, they make sure that none of the teams have too many players from one of the schools.
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Wonder if the NCAA also monitors the choosing up of sides in pick up games?

Another dumb rule by the ESPN I mean NCAA.
 
This guy is an offensive stud. He is a good enough ball handler to be a 2 guard, can create his own jump shot, and his shooting form is mechanically good. IMO he will be a better scorer in college than Donivan Stewart because he is a good shooter from 15-20 feet out. He is physically very strong and can easily post up other players his size.

On the other hand, he can't handle the ball like DS and don't count on him getting assists. Only plays hard when the ball is in his hands. He plays defense like he has AAUitis, ignores his coach during time outs, and complains way to much to refs. Also way to much "other" baggage. He has alot to learn about the other half of a game. If he does, look out.
 
I think he will help like Leonard Houston did...but he won't bully and dominate against college opponents....
 
BuB said:
This guy is an offensive stud. He is a good enough ball handler to be a 2 guard, can create his own jump shot, and his shooting form is mechanically good. IMO he will be a better scorer in college than Donivan Stewart because he is a good shooter from 15-20 feet out. He is physically very strong and can easily post up other players his size.

On the other hand, he can't handle the ball like DS and don't count on him getting assists. Only plays hard when the ball is in his hands. He plays defense like he has AAUitis, ignores his coach during time outs, and complains way to much to refs. Also way to much "other" baggage. He has alot to learn about the other half of a game. If he does, look out.
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I saw him several times last year and this year. IMO, he is a "3", trapped in a "2-guards" body. He will have trouble adjusting to the speed of the guards in the MVC, and won't be able to guard bigger 3's. He developed into a very good shooter (he was not a good shooter his first couple years in high school), but he does not get great elevation with his shot, and will have a lot more trouble getting it off in college. And IMO, he is not quick enough to create his own shot effectively at the D1 level.
He is a very similar player to Marcus Jordan, who lead Young to the 4A state title in 2009. And like Jordan, he will take a couple years at the D1 level to adjust.
 
tornado said:
RR = Nate Minnoy...a great HS player but won't be able to do the things he did in high school in a college setting where everyone is taller than he is...
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Tell that to Hersey. This guy is good and we are not going to enjoy seeing him twice a year. Book it.
 
Rayvonte's stats are readily available and they do not argue for him being a great outside shooter...and maybe not even that good of a shooter overall..he scores his points because of the VOLUME of shots he takes!

Rayvonte Rice was 67-183 (36.6%) from 3-pt in the regular season as a senior, .....then he went 2-14 (28.6%) from 3-pt in the two games at March Madness, Champiagn Centennial losing both games (49-42 to CC Hills & 73-59 to Marshall) to end up taking the 4th place trophy and 31-3.

As a junior, Rayvonte shot 31-92 (33.7%) from 3-pt in the regular season...
Then in the two games at Carver Arena during March Madness his numbers were less impressive..3-10 (30%) from 3-pt..although he does get to the hoop and score on a lot inside against high school opponents, so his overall shooting pct is above 50% (but he sure won't get as many of those inside shots in college)

..so it the stats over a pretty broad period can be used...his entire junior and senior seasons in high school, then he is a 34% shooter from 3-pt range which is not particularly good for a high schooler given that they shoot from closer in than NCAA and seriously, Rayvonte should be able to get good shots because of his size and the relative smaller size of most of the guys who defended him for those two years..... not exactly a scorching shooting percentage for a guy playing against kids who'll never play in college and being bigger than most of them.
 
As I said -- with his athleticism he will be good at Drake, and I likened him to what Leonard Houston did for Drake...
in Houston's senior year, Drake was almost unbeatable ........(although we beat them!)...and I don't think they could have done it without him
 
tornado said:
Rayvonte's stats are readily available and they do not argue for him being a great outside shooter...and maybe not even that good of a shooter overall..he scores his points because of the VOLUME of shots he takes!

Rayvonte Rice was 67-183 (36.6%) from 3-pt in the regular season as a senior, .....then he went 2-14 (28.6%) from 3-pt in the two games at March Madness, Champiagn Centennial losing both games (49-42 to CC Hills & 73-59 to Marshall) to end up taking the 4th place trophy and 31-3.

As a junior, Rayvonte shot 31-92 (33.7%) from 3-pt in the regular season...
Then in the two games at Carver Arena during March Madness his numbers were less impressive..3-10 (30%) from 3-pt..although he does get to the hoop and score on a lot inside against high school opponents, so his overall shooting pct is above 50% (but he sure won't get as many of those inside shots in college)

..so it the stats over a pretty broad period can be used...his entire junior and senior seasons in high school, then he is a 34% shooter from 3-pt range which is not particularly good for a high schooler given that they shoot from closer in than NCAA and seriously, Rayvonte should be able to get good shots because of his size and the relative smaller size of most of the guys who defended him for those two years..... not exactly a scorching shooting percentage for a guy playing against kids who'll never play in college and being bigger than most of them.
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36.6% isn't Matt Roth like numbers but still not to bad. He did make 152-155 free throws which indicates to me at least that he has a pretty good touch:wink: I couldn't find any stats for Walter Lemon. I have heard he has a pretty good 3 pt. shot. Does anyone know his percentages?
 
I don't know why alot of you guys are saying this kid isn't going to be tough in the Valley.... All this talk about being undersized is funny coming from "Bradley Fans" your 4 man the last 4 years has been 6'4 or smaller.... Although great athletes way undersized.... Rayvonte is 6'2 or 6'3 and freaky long and strong... Can play inside and out as well as being very athletic.... ISU and Bradley let 2 great not good central illinois players leave the state in Karl Madison and Rayvonte Rice....

I believe if these kids go in and work hard that they will be extremely good down the road...

And as far as shooting 3's are concerned

Sammy M. 34.8%
Andrew W. 39.6%
Taylor B. 29.4%
Dyricus E. 34.2%
Chris Roberts 37.8%

Thats roughly a 35.2% average from your Top 5 (in 3's taken)

Rayvonte's Junior & Senior Year percentage comes about to be about 35.7%

So.... Im saying he would fit ok shooting wise too...
 
midstateknowitall said:
I don't know why alot of you guys are saying this kid isn't going to be tough in the Valley.... All this talk about being undersized is funny coming from "Bradley Fans" your 4 man the last 4 years has been 6'4 or smaller.... Although great athletes way undersized.... Rayvonte is 6'2 or 6'3 and freaky long and strong... Can play inside and out as well as being very athletic.... ISU and Bradley let 2 great not good central illinois players leave the state in Karl Madison and Rayvonte Rice....

I believe if these kids go in and work hard that they will be extremely good down the road...

And as far as shooting 3's are concerned

Sammy M. 34.8%
Andrew W. 39.6%
Taylor B. 29.4%
Dyricus E. 34.2%
Chris Roberts 37.8%

Thats roughly a 35.2% average from your Top 5 (in 3's taken)

Rayvonte's Junior & Senior Year percentage comes about to be about 35.7%

So.... Im saying he would fit ok shooting wise too...
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Don't you get it... he is not going to bradley so he is going to have a tough time getting his shot off and be a 3 stuck in a 2's body... DUH
 
midstateknowitall said:
I don't know why alot of you guys are saying this kid isn't going to be tough in the Valley.... All this talk about being undersized is funny coming from "Bradley Fans" your 4 man the last 4 years has been 6'4 or smaller.... Although great athletes way undersized.... Rayvonte is 6'2 or 6'3 and freaky long and strong... Can play inside and out as well as being very athletic.... ISU and Bradley let 2 great not good central illinois players leave the state in Karl Madison and Rayvonte Rice....

I believe if these kids go in and work hard that they will be extremely good down the road...

And as far as shooting 3's are concerned

Sammy M. 34.8%
Andrew W. 39.6%
Taylor B. 29.4%
Dyricus E. 34.2%
Chris Roberts 37.8%

Thats roughly a 35.2% average from your Top 5 (in 3's taken)

Rayvonte's Junior & Senior Year percentage comes about to be about 35.7%

So.... Im saying he would fit ok shooting wise too...
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Like I said, this guy is an offensive stud. Offensively he could help us. I really like his shot and strength. His mechanics are real good and he has a soft touch. It will not matter that the 3 point line is further back in college. He is strong enough to handle that.... All I'm saying is that he has problems with the other half of the game. He battles those demons in his head that control his emotions and his effort on defense. No way he gets away with that attitude at Drake. The coaching staff and refs will not put up with it. If he ever learns or is taught how to play hard without the ball, watch out Valley.

This kid is not related to Simeon Rice, correct?
 
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