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Postgame thread-- VCU 79 Bradley 64

bert notorius said:
My man AW with 18 in the losing effort. Build a team around him.
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He has all the tools and can create his own shot. I just wish he had the go of SM and TW. Even when he is playing a good game he disapears for part of the game. He is just going to have to want it more. I'm sure by next year he will be the go to guy and relish it. Right now he probably is to nice of guy and is deferring to the Srs.

I've got to give Salley credit tonight. He hustled and I liked it when he took the ball to the rim and got fouled. He would be better served as a 4 then a 5 as well as TW as a 2-3 instead of a 4.

My line up for next game would be:

DR, AW, TW, MS, DC

JC coming off the bench for instant offense after we softened the inside up.
 
I am grouchy, I am grieving. Why do I feel so sad and down trodin? VCU is a good team. They came here disciplined and ready to contend.

I Love our Braves.

Are the Bradley Braves getting worse instead of better?

I left at the five minute mark with a grinchy heart and felt even grinchier hearing the finale on the AM

Talk about the Grinch that stole Christmas
 
I'm not sure we win even if Ruffin plays. Maynor probably doesn't go for 30 and 7, but they were bigger, stronger, and faster.

Here's to a full recovery for Ruff, whenever it may be, and a happy holiday season to everyone.

We aren't who we thought we were, and no one is letting us off the hook!
 
Guess what. DR graduates this year along with JC. While this changes the starting landscape, it does not dictate the future. Our newbies, transfer and frosh, need to step it up. Somethings gone soft on the inside because our newbies weren't this way two years ago.
 
2bradleyfans said:
I left at the five minute mark...
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And so did 1/2 of Carver.

Then mass exit with about 1:20 to go when VCU called a time out to get some subs in.

1 thing definitley missing tonight was the Student Body.

There may have been talk before about trying to get the students more involved... but I think it has kinda flip-flopped a little. Yea - packed house and lots of cheers in the first 1/2... but after that? I don't think the Student Body woulda been as quiet as the crowd tonight.
 
Just got back from the game. Very nice to meet a couple of the posters on this board tonight.
A few comments to add to this thread.

1. GIVE RASHAD AUSTIN PLAYING TIME.
2. Warren is starting to become a complete player. Keep it going AW.
3. Help defense needs to be a primary point of emphasis by the staff.
4. Agree with people on here who say that Collins needs more minutes. I would start DC instead of Salley but I think that Salley had a decent game tonight.
5. IMO this team needs a spark to get things going in the right direction.
A line up change is in order as well as a change in the allocation of minutes for players.
6. I think that tonight demonstrates that our primary recruiting emphasis should be a 6'6 or taller wing forward who is a scorer.

and finally to go along with point 5....

6. GIVE RASHAD AUSTIN PLAYING TIME.
I think that RA has the type of skills that is very needed in our lineup.
 
You people crack me up....

BU played poorly- simple as that..

Collins more PT- he was bad in 6 minutes tonight he had 2 fouls and a TO first time he touched the ball....

I agree that I would like to see Collins get some more time and myab eeven Rashad Austin- but this team got beat tonight by a few things:

1.) A better team
2.) By giving up when Ruff went out

AW plays well, but inconsistently... People rail on Matt Salley and I will agree he is bad offensively- but he is a gamer....


Everybody needs to be more consistent.. I give Ruff a pass right now with his ab injury- but even he does teh over penetration and jumps in the air with nowhere to go....

I cannot remember a BU Game so poorly played....And yet I am not calling for wholesale changes and "more bigs"


Wilson is wild at times
 
Jim needs to stop calling out the fans when his team fails to deliver.

We got beat by a better team tonight, plain and simple. A healthy Ruff and this game comes down to last couple of minutes. Do we win? Who knows. No Ruffin, and we saw the result.

Are there some people seriously getting on Sam Maniscalco? Honestly, what were you watching? More importantly, what in the heck did you expect this kid to be? My god, he is an 18 year old freshman point guard playing against one of the best guards in the country. He didn't turn it over once. He has the best assist to turnover ration on the team. He had a hard time defensively, but right now it looks like the whole roster is defensively challenged (which is probably the most disturbing trend). We didn't lose because of Sam Maniscalco. Get off his back.

It's simple for this year's Braves. If you play defense, you win. If you don't, you lose. Injuries or not, our defense was terrible...again. Our positioning was awful, our effort on that end was awful. There's no excuse for that. For the first time this year, I am concerned, because defense is all effort and positioning. We aren't doing either one well right now.

I am concerned about our turnovers too...uggh...it's gonna be a long week sitting on this one...:cry:
 
Braveman said:
Wilson is wild at times
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It should usually find him at the FT line when he 'goes wild' and hangs in the lane for about 3 seconds moving his body and the ball all around drawing all kinds of contact.

The guy has got some hang time. And he CAN shoot FT's... he had one bad game (shooting ft's, like a 3-9 night), but I think he is getting more focused.

;)
 
Long-Hair's Lunatics said:
Cole-Scott had a couple of good passes that led to easy buckets in the first half. I really just think he needs a chance. He's the fastest player on the team, and we know from his past that he can score. If he gets his confidence back and makes some good shots, I think that he could have an impact on the way we play during the valley season.
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Please tell me you are kidding...Tyrone Cole-Scott just needs a chance? Give me a break. He has gotten far more chances this year than his production on the court should warrant. Is he quick? Sure...but so what. He cannot defend, he is not a good ball handler, his shooting mechanics are horrid, he is soft and cannot finish when he gets to the rim...
Maybe in the JUCO game he could have his way blowing by a bunch of non-DI athletes, but he is completely overmatched right now by Div I basketball...and I don't see that magically changing as we move into the Valley season...The Valley teams will only need to watch 2 minutes of film on TCS to see that there is no reason to defend him on the perimeter... So teams will just play off him and take away his dribble-drive, and then what do you have? An undersized, defensive liability that can't do a single thing on the offensive end...That doesn't sound like a guy that I want getting more minutes on my team.
 
Grassman, I never quite pegged you as one of the alarmist, "sky is falling", gloom and doomers. This was one bad game.
In fact, Bradley was competetive with VCU for the time that Daniel Ruffin was in there, and things fell apart when he was out.
I suspect the opposite might have happened if Eric Maynor went down with an injury in the first half, and didn't play in the second half.

You are entitled to your opinions, but this team is not as terrible as you think. They will bounce back next game.
 
Da Coach said:
Grassman, I never quite pegged you as one of the alarmist, "sky is falling", gloom and doomers. This was one bad game.
In fact, Bradley was competetive with VCU for the time that Daniel Ruffin was in there, and things fell apart when he was out.
I suspect the opposite might have happened if Eric Maynor went down with an injury in the first half, and didn't play in the second half.

You are entitled to your opinions, but this team is not as terrible as you think. They will bounce back next game.
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I hope we do "bounce back the next game" against a team who just LOST at home tonight against a 7-4 Nevada team and has an RPi of 134 .They also, have an SOS of 222.
Hey Coach, we were very-very bad tonight, in ALL aspects of the game. Ruffin or not!:(
 
Beninator said:
Overall, Salley was decent tonight, but his help defense was really bad.
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Only hearing the radio call, but when Dave says nobody is guarding Salley during some possessions, and he still only scores 8....

If we had 4 other guys always scoring ~15ppg, then we could stand for the limited points we are getting from the 5.
 
MacabreMob said:
And so did 1/2 of Carver.

Then mass exit with about 1:20 to go when VCU called a time out to get some subs in.

1 thing definitley missing tonight was the Student Body.

There may have been talk before about trying to get the students more involved... but I think it has kinda flip-flopped a little. Yea - packed house and lots of cheers in the first 1/2... but after that? I don't think the Student Body woulda been as quiet as the crowd tonight.
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I would even estimate about 250-300 fans left when Bradley called the timeout after VCU had their run to open the 2nd.

You know. . .I was impressed with how loud Carver was tonight in the first half for an interim game.

Atmosphere can make a big difference for the home team. Perhaps students could've helped the second half for awhile, but the team has to do something to sustain the noise generally. And let's be frank, the Braves were incapable.
 
BradleyBrave said:
Jim needs to stop calling out the fans when his team fails to deliver.

We got beat by a better team tonight, plain and simple. A healthy Ruff and this game comes down to last couple of minutes. Do we win? Who knows. No Ruffin, and we saw the result.

Are there some people seriously getting on Sam Maniscalco? Honestly, what were you watching?

I am concerned about our turnovers too...uggh...it's gonna be a long week sitting on this one...:cry:
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The fans gave the team more than it usually gets during break, both in numbers and in noise. I was alarmed at people leaving as early as they did in the 2nd half (some after Bradley burned its timeout after the VCU run in the first couple minutes).

I am a little bit worried about Ruffin's injury though now. I have hesitated to say this, but why did he play the Butler game? IMO, that was the throwaway game. . .this game and conference play were what you needed him for.

I haven't seen tonight's efficiency numbers yet, but on the year before tonight, we are turning it over on nearly 1 out of every 4 possessions. Tonight should be right in line if not worse.

I don't know why Les had Maniscalco guard Maynor to start the second half, IMO that was the game, even though he quickly fixed the matchups with the timeout, we never made a serious run.

I think Maniscalco will be a tremendous player for us. In the preseason my concern was that he was a step to slow for the style we play (I was expecting us to be more like last year) and thought a redshirt would bring him up to speed. However, he does it all and looks to be an exciting part of the program the next few years.
 
Grassman said:
Hey Coach, we were very-very bad tonight, in ALL aspects of the game. Ruffin or not!:(
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Grassman, I don't deny we were bad in the 2nd half tonight. But one game doesn't determine the entire season, or define an entire college basketball program.

If we would have won tonight, you would be excitedly claiming how great were are, but we lose one game and you say ridiculous stuff like "We suck", and "With this fan base, attendance, dollars, and support, we deserve so much more!" (those are your quotes!).

What is it that we are entitled to? I appreciate that the guys played hard without their leader and best player. Recall that Bradley had as much as a 9 point lead when Ruffin was playing, and the reason we came apart in the 2nd half was directly due to his absense. As I said elsewhere, if Eric Maynor had left the game for the 2nd half, I suspect we'd be celebrating a solid Bradley victory. How can you blame the coaches or players for circumstances beyond their control?

Since you feel the season is a total waste and the team "sucks", let me know if you want to get rid of your tickets.
 
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