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Post game thread - BU 68 isu 72

Tough game to watch at Bar Louie....the feed kept going out every 10-15 seconds. It seemed like one stretch in the second half killed us when they got 4-5 chances to score. We had our chances.

Did anyone see the no call on Slack jumping on Austins back...then Austin tried to free himself up and gets the whislte...arghhhhhh.

I think we just ran out of time. I'd like to see em again at St Louis.

On to InSU.
 
SM makes his wide open missed lay up, Austin makes one of two from the line and Ruffin makes all of his and we are tied. Basketball is sometimes a very small margin for error. They played very well, didnt miss much in the second half, we didnt do anything for about 10 minutes, the last 3 of the first and the first 7 of the second, yet we lose by 4.

The rebounding should be better, the interior defense should as well, but that was a good team we lost to tonight and it was extremely close to a win in a game we did not play well in on the road. Never a good lose, but this is not a lose to hold our head down about, but we have to rebound and play a full 40 minutes at Indy State Tuesday.

I think a short turnaround is a great thing for this team. Need to get the Trees on Tuesday.
 
bert notorius said:
I must have been watching a different game. I thought it was very entertaining. There was a BU contingent sitting above me and I saw no one hassling them. When the student section started singing "you're not gonna make it" for DR's freethrow I was cracked up. Ruffin did pop one in from about 29 feet. OE had three or four reverse layups.

I still like AW. After he made that foul in the final 10 seconds he still had a smile on his face. What positive energy- rarely seen anymore. You guys need some bigs in a bad way. I wouldn't feel so bad, ISU is pretty deep.
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This was a very entertaining game and a road game in which we had a chance to win

Some thoughts:

I have to admit that the "your not gonna make it cheer from ISU was pretty good. And I will admit to copying that cheer and yelling that out when the ISU player was at the line with 8 seconds to go in the game...and yes I got some dirty looks from the ISU fans in the immediate area when he missed the first freethrow. But I really didnt care as this was for a good cause and it gave me a good laugh!:cool:

ISU has a physical team and played well tonight.

Not saying this would have made a difference, but I would have liked to see us utilize Andrew Warren more in the second half.

ISU pep band is really bad.. The Led Zepplin song they played in the second half sounded as if the band was about to go into a coma!

Last but not least. After seeing tonight's game, I am starting a new RASHAD AUSTIN CLUB. It is time to get RA in the STARTING LINEUP.
With Austin in the lineup, we have a team player who was able to clear a lane for Ruff to drive to the hoop, more aggressive inside presence, and an inside player whose chip shots actually look to have a chance to go in the hoop. RA has his faults, but tonight I thought that we played better as a team when Austin was on the floor. The campaign has begun and the signature below has been officially changed.:cool:
 
Not much really to complain about IMO. We got up big early, but I think we all knew that it wasn't going to be that easy. For 32 minutes, BU was the better team. But, for the last 4 minutes of the 1st half (12-2 run to end the half) and first 4 minutes of the 2nd half (10-2 run to 1st official TO) was the ball game. BU outscored the 'Birds by 2 in the final 16 minutes. That 22-4 run over the span of 2 halves was the ballgame.

Still, we had our chances down the stretch. A few more made FT's, and a better bounce on Osiris's fadeaway and maybe we're winners tonight. But, in a close game, usually the team with the best player wins. Osiris Eldridge was the best player on the floor, and is the best player in the MVC. He was more or less unstoppable all night, and especially when they needed him most.

I feel just as confident about this team now as I did before the game. I think we're going to win on Tuesday, and wouldn't be surprised if we won out.
 
Haven't been to a game in Normal since before Redbird Arena. Couldn't handle the crap they gave Bradley fans. Looks like things haven't changed. I always said ISU was a Division 1 team with Division 3 fans.
 
Correction - I do have a complaint. ISU is not good enough offensively to shoot 58% for the game. That's unacceptable. I think it's amazing that teams continue to shoot season-high percentages against us. I guess most of that is probably due to our lack of a real inside presence (Slack and Odiakosa combined to go 11 for 12 from the field), since I thought our guards did a decent job despite Osiris's big night (Boo, Dom, and Holloway combined to go only 5 for 18, including 2 of 7 from 3). Story of the season I guess.
 
BradleyBrave said:
Correction - I do have a complaint. ISU is not good enough offensively to shoot 58% for the game. That's unacceptable. I think it's amazing that teams continue to shoot season-high percentages against us. I guess most of that is probably due to our lack of a real inside presence (Slack and Odiakosa combined to go 11 for 12 from the field), since I thought our guards did a decent job despite Osiris's big night (Boo, Dom, and Holloway combined to go only 5 for 18, including 2 of 7 from 3). Story of the season I guess.
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Quite a few defensive breakdowns with the inside game tonight. However the team defense and the help defense is much better when compared to the VCU game.
 
BradleyBrave said:
Correction - I do have a complaint. ISU is not good enough offensively to shoot 58% for the game. That's unacceptable. I think it's amazing that teams continue to shoot season-high percentages against us. I guess most of that is probably due to our lack of a real inside presence (Slack and Odiakosa combined to go 11 for 12 from the field), since I thought our guards did a decent job despite Osiris's big night (Boo, Dom, and Holloway combined to go only 5 for 18, including 2 of 7 from 3). Story of the season I guess.
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I was just noticing the very same thing with Slack and Odiakosa shooting 92% from the field. That is completely unacceptable! If the guys aren't getting the job done, then at least put DC in the game. After all, you can't teach big! Personally, I don't think he could do any worse than the guys that were in there.
 
The most irritating part was I felt like a lot of the easy inside baskets came against our zone... which, at least in my simple basketball world is supposed to make scoring inside harder. I also think it has a bit to do with the "4-guard." It seemed like a lot of the scores came after whoever was playing center came out to help on something, and there was no other big to rotate in behind him.
 
thefish7 said:
The most irritating part was I felt like a lot of the easy inside baskets came against our zone... which, at least in my simple basketball world is supposed to make scoring inside harder. I also think it has a bit to do with the "4-guard." It seemed like a lot of the scores came after whoever was playing center came out to help on something, and there was no other big to rotate in behind him.
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Yes, I noticed a lot of "clearing out" as well where it seemed nobody was below the free throw line until they were laying it in for an easy score.
 
from Danny Cooksey on another board:
Now we know who the better team is. We were both at full strength. No excuses. If Ruffin doesn't throw a couple prayers in, we win this game going away.
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I guess he doesn't realize it was a home game for isu. I would love to see these two teams play in STL and see who the better team is. Add in Sampay and their "bigs" shot 93% from the field and they still only won by four points.
 
Hey Braves fans, a few things here from a LONG time ISU fan and current student...

First of all, good game. The 2 times we met up this year are precisely what the War on 74 should be, have been in the past, and hopefully will continue to be in the future. The War is back!!! You guys have a very solid, athletic, smart team who plays good team basketball, is unselfish, moves the ball well and never quits. I can say similar things about our team. This year's series meant something again, and we all know our games are much better & more intense when they have an impact in the standings. Once again we had some trouble guarding the perimeter, and your guards hit their shots. We were able to counter with some solid post play, and that was one of the big differences in the game IMHO.

As for the "classless" chants/cheers, etc., here's my 2 cents on that:

When one of our players gets fouled, the "you, you, you...YOUUUU..." cheer has been going on for 20+ years. (Indy St, UNI, UCONN, North Texas, etc. all do variations of it.) Over the years, the students started saying "SUCK!" after the "you's." A few years ago, some students started adding certain words to the end of that cheer. It went away for awhile, but the last couple home games we've had, those certain words have come back. Tonight was very obvious, and for that, I apologize if you were offended. I am one of the co-creators and current Executive Board members of Red Alert, the ISU student section...and I can promise you that we do NOT condone or advertise that cheer. It's just something that has been part of ISU basketball for a very long time. Even if the cheerleaders dont take part in it, the students will still do it, and it's not easy to govern a couple thousand of us during a game (belive me, we've tried.)

So while I understand the thought and impluse to label that cheer as "classless" and "rude" or whatever, and I dont disagree with that, I just want you to know that cheers like that have been around for a long time and because of that, some students take advantage of the situation and add vulgar words to it. I dont agree with it, but it happens...I'm not making excuses here, but students are students. Cpacmel, DannyCooksey, etc. all were part of the ISU student section at one point and they all were part of the same cheer. They can attest to what I'm trying to explain.

Good game tonight guys. The War on 74 is definately back!
 
All I can say is this game proves how talented Osiris Eldridge can be. His bucket at the top of the key with Crouch on him was the dagger. Although we probably could have came up with some better free throw shooting down the stretch, the biggest reason we lost is Osiris Eldridge. That may be only my take on the game, but every time they needed a bucket, he was there. That is what a superstar does. I. E Ruffin's 29 footer, OE's three from the corner and the afforementioned dagger from the top of the key. We really need to figure out an inside game because we just got murdered. You cannot tell me Okiadosa is that good of a basketball player. Either he played out of his mind tonight due to the rivalry or we are in desperate need of effective big men. I'll go with the former. PM got some excellent players for Jank to build on, I really don't like Dom Johnson, don't really know why, I just can't stand him. In my opinion, an above average telecast by WMBD, they had a clock that was on the screen the whole time, which with most of our telecasts have been hard to come by, they had replays, the commentary was of course pro-ISU, but that is to be expected, and Kurt Pegler is pretty good at what he does. I guess the biggest plus to come out of this game is that the rivalry is back! We need to stay focused, we have some HUGE games coming up on our schedule, although this one hurts we gotta keep on truckin' and win the tournament. GO BU!
 
My feelings follow many others.

I am obviously very sensative to some of our weaknesses and I think they were exploited perfectly by ISU. They also kept our best players out of rythim and made them work very hard for their points.

But that being said, I feel like we made ISU play almost a perfect game to beat us. Our players deserve that as a credit to them.

From their shooting percentage, OE's almost flawless game, Odiakosa was even perfect from the FT line.

ISU has a very deep team, they were playing on their home floor, they had to have a win to keep their position as one of the top two teams in the league and they did it.

Hats off to them the better team certainly won the game last night. Let's regroup, get on the bus again and get a win Tuesday.
 
We lost because of our lack of inside defense and scoring ; Eldrige made more 3 point shots then normal and we were still in the game, thought officiating was fair except the call when T.Wilson had set a screen and Slack jumped on his back trying to get past him and Wilson ended up getting the foul (that was a 4 point swing) , if this team had a good center no one in the conference could touch us.
 
shaunguth said:
I was just noticing the very same thing with Slack and Odiakosa shooting 92% from the field. That is completely unacceptable! If the guys aren't getting the job done, then at least put DC in the game. After all, you can't teach big! Personally, I don't think he could do any worse than the guys that were in there.
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Just my opinion, but from what I have seen of DC in recent games, I think that the combination of Slack, Odiakosa, and Sampay would have completely out muscled and out positioned Collins.
 
shaunguth said:
from Danny Cooksey on another board:


I guess he doesn't realize it was a home game for isu. I would love to see these two teams play in STL and see who the better team is. Add in Sampay and their "bigs" shot 93% from the field and they still only won by four points.
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How about "if RA and SM make a couple of bunnies.....if Slack gets the foul call jumping on RA's back to defend Ruffins 3......BU played a horrid 10 minute stretch and came within a good shooters bounce by OE of possibly winning.

Lets face it these are two EVEN teams that need now to play on a neutral court to see who's better.

I also like his comment about Les putting JC on OE for defense with the roll of the eyes. I think JL has proven he knows how to beat ISU. You won ONE game by a few points at HOME......yeah Les can't coach....lets forget about the previous 6 games.
 
real fan said:
thought officiating was fair except the call when T.Wilson had set a screen and Slack jumped on his back trying to get past him and Wilson ended up getting the foul (that was a 4 point swing)
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Agree...The only other call that I thought was a little off was the double foul on AW and a ISU player when we had a bit of a breakaway opportunity.
 
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