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Pac 10 now looking to raid Big 12

There are raids, and then there are RAIDS.

This would be a RAID if true. This would be a bombshell. And with Missou and Nebraska lined up for the Big 10, all of a sudden, the powerhouse basketball school of Kansas will lose everything because of football.
 
TheAsianSensation said:
There are raids, and then there are RAIDS.

This would be a RAID if true. This would be a bombshell. And with Missou and Nebraska lined up for the Big 10, all of a sudden, the powerhouse basketball school of Kansas will lose everything because of football.
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Couldn't happen to a nicer university.
 
I heard this last night from a source and he said that the TV deal would be huge and it will be hard for the schools to turn it down, especially in this economic environment. He also said that Utah and BYU are still in play.
 
This is going to accelerate the 4 16-team superconference theory. If the Big 10 goes to 16, the SEC will have no choice but to poach FSU, Miami, Clemson, and Ga Tech. The ACC responds with the Big East leftovers, and poof.


And this cannot be underestimated enough: Kansas is in SERIOUS, SERIOUS trouble right now. Either the SEC needs to decide to do a bit of reaching in geography, or the Big 10 needs to do so, because there's no other play for them.

Kansas St, Iowa St, and Baylor are also in trouble, but they don't have the tradition Kansas has.
 
It would be hard to imagine no legal action by KU, KSU, ISU, Baylor as they have substantial assets/investments in place based on expectation of future revenues from their participation in the Big 12 Conference.

May spark gov intervention/oversight into NCAA and these emerging super conferences..

Are the revenues generated by the NCAA/Universities from their sports programs tax free?

If the big boys form their own athletic association to hoard the cash from their sports programs, I would support taxing all the revenue generated by the big boys' sports programs from ticket sales, sponsorship, cable tv etc.
 
AZ BU Fan said:
It would be hard to imagine no legal action by KU, KSU, ISU, Baylor as they have substantial assets/investments in place based on expectation of future revenues from their participation in the Big 12 Conference.

May spark gov intervention/oversight into NCAA and these emerging super conferences..

Are the revenues generated by the NCAA/Universities from their sports programs tax free?

If the big boys form their own athletic association to hoard the cash from their sports programs, I would support taxing all the revenue generated by the big boys' sports programs from ticket sales, sponsorship, cable tv etc.
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As long as BYU and Utah are taken care of I do not see the Feds getting involved.
 
I don't feel like this is going to be a fun ride. Any chance that the super conferences will confine themselves to football... leaving alignments less changed for other sports?
 
Ha, ha, ha....PTTB that article was hilarious at the end...
they were postulating a HEARTLAND conference that would include Kansas, Kansas St., Memphis, and Iowa St...
but also it would include Northern Iowa, UAB, So. Miss., Butler, and Dayton!!!!
Thanks... I needed a really good laugh this morning....
 
tornado said:
Ha, ha, ha....PTTB that article was hilarious at the end...
they were postulating a HEARTLAND conference that would include Kansas, Kansas St., Memphis, and Iowa St...
but also it would include Northern Iowa, UAB, So. Miss., Butler, and Dayton!!!!
Thanks... I needed a really good laugh this morning....
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If you really want to laugh, if the Pac 10 rumor is true, that article represents the BEST CASE scenario for Kansas.
 
Kansas would be welcomed in the ACC as long as they were willing to play all road games, but then, no big deal, they can easily make up the lost revenue by scheduling more Savannah State's at home and selling the Pump Brothers more premium playoff tickets
 
new big 10 news

new big 10 news

There is a report out today the Big 10 has approached Texas already. Texas wants Tech and AM to go as well.. but one of those two schools is not does not have the academic status required by the Big 10.
 
tornado said:
Ha, ha, ha....PTTB that article was hilarious at the end...
they were postulating a HEARTLAND conference that would include Kansas, Kansas St., Memphis, and Iowa St...
but also it would include Northern Iowa, UAB, So. Miss., Butler, and Dayton!!!!
Thanks... I needed a really good laugh this morning....
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Tornado-

I know. That's pretty crazy. It's quite an interesting group of teams. Not sure why Creighton or Wichita would be strongly considered over UNI (due to larger metro area and solid basketball tradition and closer proximity to Kansas/KSU (the new front porch to the 'Heartland' conference). Not sure Butler would ever jump on that either. They seem fairly content in the Horizon, eating up auto bids with strong at-large capabilities year in/year out just like Gonzaga.

Was talking to someone who was listening to a sports talk show in STL a month or so ago. They were talking to a Rivals.Com writer who talked to each of the Big 12 rivals.com writers. I guess the only ones who really didn't have an idea on what would happen was KU/K-State. And even at that, they had mentioned the MVC. How crazy would that be? I honestly can't see any situation happening where that could happen...especially with FBS football.

In all honesty, the only thing I could think that would make either Kansas joining the MVC or there being a possibility of a broad midwestern conference like 'The Heartland', is if there were agreements for football only with conferences like the C-USA, MAC, Sun Belt, MWC, etc... And then, play all other sports in the MVC or Heartland.
 
I just read a commentary on the premium Kansas scout.com site saying that Kansas' recruiting prowess just took a HUGE and immediate hit
and will quite possibly NEVER be the same...

Almost overnite, with this story out there, every recruit will be saying to himself...
"Do I want to go to Kansas and find myself in 1-2 years playing in the CUSA
or some other (Heartland) mid-major-caliber conference??"

Interesting....it might just be the end of the 4-Star and 5-Star bluechipppers landing at Kansas!!
 
Big 12 Ultimatum

Big 12 Ultimatum

The big 12 conference is drawing a line in the sand.
A newspaper in austin, texas.. Is reporting that missouri and nebraska have been given a friday deadline to say if they're going to stay in the big 12 or bolt to the big 10.
 
KillerB said:
The big 12 conference is drawing a line in the sand.
A newspaper in austin, texas.. Is reporting that missouri and nebraska have been given a friday deadline to say if they're going to stay in the big 12 or bolt to the big 10.
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I read that also but I wonder how much teeth do they have? What if they say, "We will take our time in deciding what is best for our institution." Then what will the Big 12 do? Kick them out! Just curious to know what the ramifications would be. Also the Big 12 doled out $10 million out to their schools while the Big X doled out $22 million per school.
 
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