Kirk Wessler column

[Bravesfan]

That average MSU team beat us by 29! If SMS loses in the first round in St. Louis like they did last year and Creighton does the same they are not going to make it IMO. There are lots of bubble teams this year and Valley did itself no favors during the Bracket Buster. How can the second best team in the conference, with hopes of getting an at large bid lose to ISU?

Uhhh, Lakeview, how could #13 SIU lose at both Evansville and Northern Iowa (both sub .500 teams the last I checked) and expect an at-large birth, let alone a top 4 seed? :roll:

I guess that means that no Valley team deserves an at-large bid using the same logic you did towards Creighton!

I'm not trying to be arrogant here. I'm a nice guy. Just trying to point out some holes in your theory here.

 

[BI_Brave_alum]

Re: I Must Be Nuts

Re: I Must Be Nuts

Call me crazy but I predict that The Valley will get three teams in AND BU WILL BE ONE OF THEM!!!!!

You heard it here first! :-o

I think if BU wins sat, makes it to the finals in mvc tourny that perhaps they get a bid, if mo st or creighton aren't there... still got a chance, with some upsets by the lower seeds!

 

[BI_Brave_alum]

when was the last time the Braves had consecutive years appearances in the NCAA tourny? so close this year if they didn't have a second half meltdown last nite!!

 

[Da Coach]

The last back to back NCAA years were 1954 and 1955. We all remember those years, right?

 

[Bravesfan]

The last back to back NCAA years were 1954 and 1955. We all remember those years, right?

:lol:

 

[chitownBUB]

The last back to back NCAA years were 1954 and 1955. We all remember those years, right?

In '54 BU made it to the final game and finished runnerups.
In '55 BU was a terrible, did not win the conference nor finish 2nd, ended the regular season at 7-19 but got an at large bid as a then traditional courtesy that was given to the teams who finished in the final game the year before.
To this date, Bradley in 1955 is the only team ever to get an at large bid with a losing record.

 

[Bravesfan]

The last back to back NCAA years were 1954 and 1955. We all remember those years, right?

In '54 BU made it to the final game and finished runnerups.
In '55 BU was a terrible, did not win the conference nor finish 2nd, ended the regular season at 7-19 but got an at large bid as a then traditional courtesy that was given to the teams who finished in the final game the year before.
To this date, Bradley in 1955 is the only team ever to get an at large bid with a losing record.

And hopefully that will never happen again! :lol:

 

[tornado]

The last back to back NCAA years were 1954 and 1955. We all remember those years, right?

In '54 BU made it to the final game and finished runnerups.
In '55 BU was a terrible, did not win the conference nor finish 2nd, ended the regular season at 7-19 but got an at large bid as a then traditional courtesy that was given to the teams who finished in the final game the year before.
To this date, Bradley in 1955 is the only team ever to get an at large bid with a losing record.

And hopefully that will never happen again! :lol:

Don't count it out, as I would not be surprised if ever Duke finishes 14-15,
and yet still gets an at large bid...
Would this surprise anyone else?

 

[Lakeview Brave]

The last back to back NCAA years were 1954 and 1955. We all remember those years, right?

In '54 BU made it to the final game and finished runnerups.
In '55 BU was a terrible, did not win the conference nor finish 2nd, ended the regular season at 7-19 but got an at large bid as a then traditional courtesy that was given to the teams who finished in the final game the year before.
To this date, Bradley in 1955 is the only team ever to get an at large bid with a losing record.

And hopefully that will never happen again! :lol:

Don't count it out, as I would not be surprised if ever Duke finishes 14-15,
and yet still gets an at large bid...
Would this surprise anyone else?

What is Duke's RPI and SOS?

 

[Lakeview Brave]

That average MSU team beat us by 29! If SMS loses in the first round in St. Louis like they did last year and Creighton does the same they are not going to make it IMO. There are lots of bubble teams this year and Valley did itself no favors during the Bracket Buster. How can the second best team in the conference, with hopes of getting an at large bid lose to ISU?

Uhhh, Lakeview, how could #13 SIU lose at both Evansville and Northern Iowa (both sub .500 teams the last I checked) and expect an at-large birth, let alone a top 4 seed? :roll:

I guess that means that no Valley team deserves an at-large bid using the same logic you did towards Creighton!

I'm not trying to be arrogant here. I'm a nice guy. Just trying to point out some holes in your theory here.

#13 SIU had a very good non-con and beat Creighton twice. I wasnt saying that Creighton wont get in because of the ISU loss alone, but the rest of there resume is not very impressive.

 

[JC]

This am their RPI is 11 and SOS is 3.
http://kenpom.com/rpi.php

 

[Lakeview Brave]

This am their RPI is 11 and SOS is 3.
http://kenpom.com/rpi.php

So Dukes RPI is 11 with an SOS of 3 and it should be surprising that they make the tournament?? We cant use the RPI when it helps us and discount it when it doesnt. Does anyone really think that Duke doenst belong in the tournament?

 

[MacabreMob]

This am their RPI is 11 and SOS is 3.
http://kenpom.com/rpi.php

So Dukes RPI is 11 with an SOS of 3 and it should be surprising that they make the tournament?? We cant use the RPI when it helps us and discount it when it doesnt. Does anyone really think that Duke doenst belong in the tournament?

Right now - no question... IN.

But if they lose their last 3 ACC games to finish 7-9 in conference, as well as lose at St John's, and then lose their 1st conf tourney game... they would definitely be on the bubble.

 

[Dallas Brave]

This am their RPI is 11 and SOS is 3.
http://kenpom.com/rpi.php

So Dukes RPI is 11 with an SOS of 3 and it should be surprising that they make the tournament?? We cant use the RPI when it helps us and discount it when it doesnt. Does anyone really think that Duke doenst belong in the tournament?

Right now - no question... IN.

But if they lose their last 3 ACC games to finish 7-9 in conference, as well as lose at St John's, and then lose their 1st conf tourney game... they would definitely be on the bubble.

Duke is 7-7 against the top 50 teams (Bradley is an anemic 1-7).

In the end, SIU, CU, and MSU will get invited to the Dance.