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Geno= Coach of the year?

Honestly, I think Geno could be more deserving than any other coach. Although, I agree with many that he won't get the award.

When you look at where we were at, how we were picked, and our depth as compared to many other Valley schools you could definitely make a case for Geno.

Either way, I think it's been a fun year to watch this group play
 
Honestly, I think Geno could be more deserving than any other coach. Although, I agree with many that he won't get the award.

When you look at where we were at, how we were picked, and our depth as compared to many other Valley schools you could definitely make a case for Geno.

Either way, I think it's been a fun year to watch this group play

For the record, here is the 2012-2013 preseason poll-

No. Team (First-Place Votes) Points
1. Creighton (38 ) 398
2. Illinois State (2) 327
3. UNI 316
4. Wichita State 298
5. Evansville 240
6. Drake 184
7. Indiana State 165
8. Missouri State 122
9. Bradley 84
10. Southern Illinois 66

http://mvc-sports.com/mbasketball/news/2012-13/6210/creighton-picked-to-win-mvc-basketball-title/
 
For the record, here is the 2012-2013 preseason poll-

No. Team (First-Place Votes) Points
1. Creighton (38 ) 398
2. Illinois State (2) 327
3. UNI 316
4. Wichita State 298
5. Evansville 240
6. Drake 184
7. Indiana State 165
8. Missouri State 122
9. Bradley 84
10. Southern Illinois 66

http://mvc-sports.com/mbasketball/news/2012-13/6210/creighton-picked-to-win-mvc-basketball-title/

Regardless of GF getting consideration for COY, tonight I'll raise a glass to Bradley over-achieving and Illinois State under-achieving!
 
Regardless of GF getting consideration for COY, tonight I'll raise a glass to Bradley over-achieving and Illinois State under-achieving!

I join you with that glass. I never had IllSU as a favorite. I had UNI and IndSU ahead of them. I have no idea how IndSU was picked so low. I also have no idea how MSU was picked above us????
 
No. Team (First-Place Votes) Points
1. Creighton (38 ) 398
2. Illinois State (2) 327
3. UNI 316
4. Wichita State 298
5. Evansville 240
6. Drake 184
7. Indiana State 165
8. Missouri State 122
9. Bradley 84
10. Southern Illinois 66


I would love for Geno to get COY but I don't see that happening this year. I do see it for him in the future though. Looking at the pre season picks my vote would be the INS blue coach getting the COY award. I hope he does and not Marshall. We'll know soon.
 
The voters will factor in the 3 starter injuries they had.

maybe - but actually, FWO - of the 3 "injured" starters - there's actually a little serendipity that makes Gregg Marshall look good when in fact it also exposes some bad coaching moves he might have been making before it cost them........
...so although it won't be popular with Shocker fans - I am going to play spoiler a little...

One of the "injured" has returned and only missed 7 games ...and interestingly Wichita was 6-1 in those games without Hall,
BUT ..... they were also 6-1 in the 7 games before he went out and they kept winning all their games for the next two weeks after Hall returned as well!!
- so even tho he was a starter - it's debatable whether it is or was his absence that made any difference or was it just the time span and the teams that were on the schedule that was the only determining factor...

The other two "injured" guys may actually have forced Marshall to use players off his bench that he simply did not know were every bit as good maybe better than the ones he lost...so how is this good coaching??
Baker averaged just 7 ppg in his 10 games and Wessel in his 8 games barely averaged 5 ppg.

Wessel's absence moved Cleanthony Early into the starting lineup - so the argument could be made HOW THE HECK was Gregg Marshall NOT starting Cleanthony Early the first 1/4 of the season - forcing Early to put up 25-point games to let Marshall know his talents were being wasted as a bench player...Early has had the NBA scouts there watching him and yet he wasn't a starter until Marshall was forced to start him?? Good coaching??

Then when Baker went out with his 5.5 ppg average - that forced Marshall to move Demetric Williams into the lineup and it's pretty apparent to anyone who's watched the Shox, that Williams is a better player and should have been starting over Baker!
Demetric's numbers are considerably better across the board from what Baker was giving them...plus he's become a team leader.
I think they are a better team with him in the starting lineup.


Oddly - just a month ago there was this article...
"Wichita State - HOT START, NOW ABOUT TO GET HEALTHY..."
hinting that now that they were getting their injured players back - they were going to take off and be unstoppable...
BUT..........now they're just 3-3 since beating Bradley with most everyone "healthy"....
so again - can one use this to argue for good coaching??
Let's see how WSU does down the stretch before engraving Gregg's name...
they still have to play at Indiana State & Creighton plus two tough games vs. Evansville & Detroit.
 
The healthy guys give them good depth, which is one of the reasons you listed as why they won against ISU. So maybe they don't win that game if they are still hurt.
 
No. Team (First-Place Votes) Points
1. Creighton (38 ) 398
2. Illinois State (2) 327
3. UNI 316
4. Wichita State 298
5. Evansville 240
6. Drake 184
7. Indiana State 165
8. Missouri State 122
9. Bradley 84
10. Southern Illinois 66


I would love for Geno to get COY but I don't see that happening this year. I do see it for him in the future though. Looking at the pre season picks my vote would be the INS blue coach getting the COY award. I hope he does and not Marshall. We'll know soon.

I hop GF does too
 
I'm going to bet that the ISU/WSU incident in the tunnel will have an impact on the COY voting. BTW who are the voters?
 
Coaches and ADs from the 10 schools get to vote on the Coach of the Year.

Maybe the fact (well, just a hunch) that Geno is the more likeable guy around the Valley will have some bearing.
Still, Geno will likely have to win 9 games to get considered.
 
why did we do the offense/defense subs for TP & Will in only the final couple minutes??
We maybe shoulda started doing it at 5-6 minutes...it didn't hurt that much when we were doing it as both we rested and energetic and got great steals & dunks when they came in...
 
why did we do the offense/defense subs for TP & Will in only the final couple minutes??
We maybe shoulda started doing it at 5-6 minutes...it didn't hurt that much when we were doing it as both we rested and energetic and got great steals & dunks when they came in...

My guess is because they are much better on both ends of the floor. When JP is in we had to double the post, leading to open 3s.
 
well, Snell & Kleine both thought JP played a good game defensively - who does Drake have that's superior to the players we have on the floor?
 
well, Snell & Kleine both thought JP played a good game defensively - who does Drake have that's superior to the players we have on the floor?

I thought Clarke and Simmons played better than Prosser and SS by quite a bit. TP and Will played well at times, but fouled way too much and made terrible decisions down the stretch. I think we are a better team, but lost the game.

To give Drake credit they hit their shots at the end and made the plays they had to.
 
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