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Expectations...

Yeah, it is really not easy to compare 2004 with 2017. The conference was much tougher then compared with now.
The MVC was as good as it has been in the last 30 years during the 4 year stretch from 2004-2007 sending more teams to the NCAA tournament than any other 4-year stretch.
By comparison, in the last 4 seasons since Creighton left the MVC, the conference RPI has fallen each year and now ranks as low as at any time in the last 30 years. And there have been far fewer NCAA bids or ranked teams.

I don't disagree with a lot of your points, but conference wins don't have to come from "NCAA bids" or "ranked teams".
 
I don't disagree with a lot of your points, but conference wins don't have to come from "NCAA bids" or "ranked teams".

I would not deny that.
But it was stated, "Both Mo and Les won 7 conference games their second year at BU" as if that should lower expectations for this current team.
First, I would be happy with 7 conference wins this season.
But my point was that to win 7 games back in 2004, 2005, or 2006 was a lot more impressive than winning 7 games now.
The MVC 10-13 years ago was the 6th or 7th best conference in the country, with half the teams inside the top 40 RPI in 2006, compared with the 12th best conference now. There is only 1 team inside the top 70 RPI now.
I think most people would admit that winning 7 games now should be a lot more easily achievable than now.
 
I would not deny that.
But it was stated, "Both Mo and Les won 7 conference games their second year at BU" as if that should lower expectations for this current team.
First, I would be happy with 7 conference wins this season.
But my point was that to win 7 games back in 2004, 2005, or 2006 was a lot more impressive than winning 7 games now.
The MVC 10-13 years ago was the 6th or 7th best conference in the country, with half the teams inside the top 40 RPI in 2006, compared with the 12th best conference now. There is only 1 team inside the top 70 RPI now.
I think most people would admit that winning 7 games now should be a lot more easily achievable than now.



I wasn't lowering expectations DC....just an observation, that's all. Les and Mo had more to start with too than Wardle did......just saying it takes time
 
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