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Early Preseason College Basketball Magazines and Previews

as happens every year -- I think injuries will play an important part in determining the end result -- and right now, nobody can really predict that stuff.......
 
shockerfan13 said:
Where is a good place to pick them up? Obviously I'm no where close to most of you since I am in Kansas. I checked a local grocery store that usually carry them and they didn't have anything yet. Are there any chains that might be in Wichita that I can get them at? Where do you all pick yours up in Peoria?
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I was at the Barnes and Noble in Omaha over the weekend and they had the Lindy's, Athlon and Sporting News previews. I don't know if there is a Barnes & Noble in Wichita, but you could try Barnesandnoble.com.
 
dogsrus said:
Sporting news had us as having the 8th best recruiting class....OUCH.
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Well, we'll worry about that after this season. :D Let's just do as well as we can this year, and let the chips fall where they will afterwards.

Not good if true, but as always, what happens in reality versus on paper are two completely different thinks most of the time.
 
Bravesfan said:
Well, we'll worry about that after this season. :D Let's just do as well as we can this year, and let the chips fall where they will afterwards.

Not good if true, but as always, what happens in reality versus on paper are two completely different thinks most of the time.
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Well, I can agree with you on worrying about this years recruiting class later, because its over, done:!: I ve seen a lot of things on paper that looked good and bad. How it turns out either way, is real, what it will be:!: If it does not turn out the way it is wrote, then it should be nothing more, than paper hanging on a bathroom wall, waiting to be used.
But a program's/business's success is a on going project in progress:!: Not a one and done or waiting tell the bottom falls out:!: So with what looks like a not so good/weak recruiting class this year and the lost of 3 top players next year, it's rightfully so to have concern about the programs future:!: What happens if things don't go right this year, then what:!: Just saying, friend:!: Hoping this year's team wins it all:D
 
Out of Balance said:
Well, I can agree with you on worrying about this years recruiting class later, because its over, done:!: I ve seen a lot of things on paper that looked good and bad. How it turns out either way, is real, what it will be:!: If it does not turn out the way it is wrote, then it should be nothing more, than paper hanging on a bathroom wall, waiting to be used.
But a program's/business's success is a on going project in progress:!: Not a one and done or waiting tell the bottom falls out:!: So with what looks like a not so good/weak recruiting class this year and the lost of 3 top players next year, it's rightfully so to have concern about the programs future:!: What happens if things don't go right this year, then what:!: Just saying, friend:!: Hoping this year's team wins it all:D
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Well that's what I did mean. Let's hope this year's team does play well at the very least. But you are right that if this is one great year and then back to mediocrity (worse than we have seen the last year or two particularly), this does not bode well for future recruiting. And no, I don't want our program to become the next Drake even if we were to win the conference once or twice a decade (though I'm sure many would be happy with that). I want our program to be a consistent conference contender each year, no less. But if we have a shot going far this year, let's just enjoy things for now and then the university higher ups can worry about the direction of the program after the season.
 
dogsrus said:
Sporting news had us as having the 8th best recruiting class....OUCH.
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Dogs if Jim Platt wouldn't have brought Andrew Davis along we would not have been on the chart at all. We would only have one recruit. I still consider this as a wasted year for the program.
 
one service ranked Lamar as the 8th best recruiting class in the NATION this year -- so much for ranking recruiting classes..

Here are a couple other reminders...
in both 2007 & 2008, SIU had recruiting classes that were ranked nationally - they are 33-30, 14-22 in Valley play since
In 2007 & 2008 Indiana had Top 10 recruiting classes nationally, they are 16-46, 5-31 in the BT since
 
Nacho said:
Out of curiosity, could you list the complete MVC recruiting rankings out of that publication?
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From the Sporting News:
Rating the recruiting classes:

1. Drake
2. Creighton
3. Illinois State
4. Southern Illinois
5. Wichita State
6. Indiana State
7. Northern Iowa
8. Bradley
9. Missouri St
10. Evansville
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a team that is strong with lots of seniors and everyone returning from the prior year would quite naturally be ranked low because they wouldn't have any open scholarships. Thus ranking recruiting classes is hard to interpret...

BTW -- Creighton is ranked at #2 -- and yet of their 3 new recruits (McDermott, Artino, and Manighat) I have heard or read of redshirt talk
on two of those three.....so just which recruits of Creighton's is that guy doing the ranking being swayed by??
 
tornado said:
one service ranked Lamar as the 8th best recruiting class in the NATION this year -- so much for ranking recruiting classes..

Here are a couple other reminders...
in both 2007 & 2008, SIU had recruiting classes that were ranked nationally - they are 33-30, 14-22 in Valley play since
In 2007 & 2008 Indiana had Top 10 recruiting classes nationally, they are 16-46, 5-31 in the BT since
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If the players would have stuck around i'm certain they would have lived up to their hype.
 
it's boogie time said:
It's hard to believe that Bradley has an unused scholarship with all the new facilities to sell prospects on.
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we have lots of unused ones for upcoming years, and most of that is good...
the one 2010 ride we have was because we were first holding it for JW, then for MO, but we were foiled by factors outside our control.
Seems like it's danged if you do, danged if you don't...if you don't hold a scholarship for a big man -- one half of the fans erupt,
but if we do hold it for a big man, then we sure don't want to just throw it away on someone who won't help at all.
 
tornado said:
a team that is strong with lots of seniors and everyone returning from the prior year would quite naturally be ranked low because they wouldn't have any open scholarships. Thus ranking recruiting classes is hard to interpret...

BTW -- Creighton is ranked at #2 -- and yet of their 3 new recruits (McDermott, Artino, and Manighat) I have heard or read of redshirt talk
on two of those three.....so just which recruits of Creighton's is that guy doing the ranking being swayed by??
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So if a kid redshirts, he must suck? Interesting logic....
 
tornado said:
we have lots of unused ones for upcoming years, and most of that is good...
the one 2010 ride we have was because we were first holding it for JW, then for MO, but we were foiled by factors outside our control.
Seems like it's danged if you do, danged if you don't...if you don't hold a scholarship for a big man -- one half of the fans erupt,
but if we do hold it for a big man, then we sure don't want to just throw it away on someone who won't help at all.
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Why can't Jim recruit a big man with all the carrots Bradley has given him. Top notch pratice facility, 9000 crazed fans for every home game the no 3 nonBCS conference in the land, high graguation rate, alumni success in the pros. Please don't tell me MO and JW are the only big men out there.
 
Recruiting requires relationships that are built 1-2 years in advance, so the facilities couldn't have helped until now...so you're being a bit unfair.....

..feel free to e mail JL and give him some names, but I can assure you he's working as hard as any other MVC coach, and he's the only one in the league who's landed a future NBA center and a future lottery pick center -- and we lost 2 years (2006-2007 and 2007-2008 ) of POB's services because he WAS good enough to go in the draft, so I think you're being a bit harsh on him..
 
tornado said:
the one 2010 ride we have was because we were first holding it for JW, then for MO, but we were foiled by factors outside our control.
Seems like it's danged if you do, danged if you don't...if you don't hold a scholarship for a big man -- one half of the fans erupt,
but if we do hold it for a big man, then we sure don't want to just throw it away on someone who won't help at all.
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It's really not a danged if you do, danged if you don't situation. It you land the needed big man, fans will be happy. If you don't, they won't be. It's a results oriented business. At this point, the thirteenth scholarship is empty (I assume a walkon will recieve it at some point).

It sounds like there is a lot of talent in the Illinois class of 2011. Hopefully, all of them will be accounted for next season.
 
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