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dogsrus

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Point guard or not?

I heard someone say last nite he's good but NOT a true pg.

I see a guy that can handle it pretty well and passes as well as anyone we have on the team. He can also get to the rim as well or better then anyone else.

I realize its Sams spot but after he leaves is it DSE's?

Thoughts......
 
I think he can develop into the role. I don't think he is ready right now, but I doubt many freshman are. I said yesterday, he is a good mix of SM and EM. I just dont think teams really plan for him and I like bringing him in like we do.
 
bigdaddystuck said:
I think he can develop into the role. I don't think he is ready right now, but I doubt many freshman are. I said yesterday, he is a good mix of SM and EM. I just dont think teams really plan for him and I like bringing him in like we do.
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Just for clarification I wasn't suggesting he take over that roll. Just wondering what his position is or what others see his as?

And I agree....I like the way we are using him and also agree he's a good blend of Sam and Edge.
 
DSE, Good things usually happen when he has the ball, whether he shoots or passes and---------------he played the point at Washington, sssssssoooooooooooooo Yup! He can play the point:confused:
 
I loved the "chest-bump" Les laid on DSE, when he came out of the game, for the last time..
Me thinks Les was showing DSE some love!
 
Personally, I think DSE has every quality in a pg that we need and want. He has more upside than anyone on the team as well. That's JMO. I think most of the minutes go to him at pg next season and SM's will be split between the 1 and 2. To be honest I wouldn't mind it if that happened now. DSE just creates things. Whether it's with his drives to make others open or just incredible passes he makes things happen which is what we need in a pg. But we have a pretty good team with a 6th man like DSE. What a great get he's turned out to be. Can't wait to see JP next season.
 
I think right now and next year, SM is the guy. I'd like to see DSE get 20-25 minutes a game, behind SM, AW, and when we go small. And when SM leaves I think DSE should be the pg. EM, will be a senior then, and while I hope he improves DSE is a better player and pg than EM right now and DSE can bring a lot to the team. I compare DSE and EM to DRuff and Tony Bennett (but I think DSE>DRuff, and EM<Tony Bennet). EM will be good support coming off the bench in the next couple of years.
 
DSE's passing is by far best on the team because when he makes passes it makes things happen and opens up good shots. One thing I've really noticed is when he drives and gets in the air he always knows where he's going with the ball. To often it seems EM gets in the air and is lost, DRuff used to do it some too.
 
dogsrus said:
Just for clarification I wasn't suggesting he take over that roll. Just wondering what his position is or what others see his as?

And I agree....I like the way we are using him and also agree he's a good blend of Sam and Edge.
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He was a great point guard for Washington and was a lot of the reason for their success, no reason why he cannot play the point for BU and give Sam a breather, the other reason why he is so valuable is he can sub in for Chris as DSE is a great defender and rebounder.
 
As far as pure point I think he already offers more than SM... he doesn't have the scoring ability that SM does, but he distributes better, drives better, and defends better. For me a true point is a guy who's offensive actions are all predicated on getting his TEAM to score. DSE appears to demonstrate the vision, ballhandling, and passing ability required to be a very good distributor. If, like Ruffin, he develops an outside shot, I think he could be as good as DRuff was.
 
Both DSE and Sammy are good PGs, but most evaluators would classify them as combo guards. I suspect the coaches could even be recruiting a pure PG for next year.
 
DSE breaks down the defence better that anyone we have had at BU in some time. He can pass to the post and man is this something new for BU? I like what I see so far......
 
DSE will start next year. AW will move up to the 3 and DSE into the 2 spot. I'm also not counting that JW will be a Brave with this in mind. If that happens there will be a battle royal for playing time at the 1-3! I would expect to see WE remain our 5 with JW and TB manning the other front line spots with TB taking over the 3 occasionally. That would mean AT needs to step up, JP hopefully could take some of those minutes, MK becomes a proven 4. Well the leaves the 1-3 spot with EM, SM, DSE, AW, DD, JE and a bit of TB when we go a bit bigger.

I'm not sure about DSE's ability to bring the ball up when pressed but in handling the 1/2 court he's lights out as a Freshman. He will be special and I'm confidant that he'll be playing huge minutes for us next year.
 
SFP said:
DSE will start next year. AW will move up to the 3 and DSE into the 2 spot. I'm also not counting that JW will be a Brave with this in mind. If that happens there will be a battle royal for playing time at the 1-3! I would expect to see WE remain our 5 with JW and TB manning the other front line spots with TB taking over the 3 occasionally. That would mean AT needs to step up, JP hopefully could take some of those minutes, MK becomes a proven 4. Well the leaves the 1-3 spot with EM, SM, DSE, AW, DD, JE and a bit of TB when we go a bit bigger.

I'm not sure about DSE's ability to bring the ball up when pressed but in handling the 1/2 court he's lights out as a Freshman. He will be special and I'm confidant that he'll be playing huge minutes for us next year.
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I don't think DSE will start next year probably the year after with us having SM, DD, and AW next year all as seniors. Since people have said JW can handle the ball well he could be a mismatch at the 3 at 6'9" and TB be the 4 or if TB improves his ball-handling he could be the 3 and JW the 4. I imagine this next year:

SM/DSE/EM
AW/DD/JE(If we stay healthy maybe we can redshirt JE next year)
JW/DD/TB/MK
TB/JW/MK
WE/JP/AT

The first five games because of Wilkins being suspended I see the starters being

SM
DD
AW
TB
WE

I love looking at all the depth and possibilities with the potential lineups for next year, our 3 shooting should be outstanding, our big man depth and size is better, and everyone is experienced and will have played together except JW. We have the ability to play 3 guards a forward and a center or 2 guards 2 forwards and a center as well. Wow I love looking at this potential roster!!! But back on topic I see DSE as a combo guard, but he will play mostly PG for us like SM who I also see as a combo guard. I like DSE as our future starting PG, but I think he will start the year after next, not next year.
 
I just do not see anyone capable of denying DSE from starting next year! He plays great D, passes the ball as well if not better then anyone else, finishes his plays and plays with a ton of passion. He is our poor man Derrick Rose in the best of ways! There is not one guy besides him that can go to the basket and free up the bigs and get them the ball like he does. JL is about starting the guys who deserve to start, not their year in school, otherwise SS would be starting.
 
If Wilkins does come next season, and is as advertised I dream of the following starting lineup:

1 - DSE
2 - AW (Also playing 30% of his minutes at the 3)
3 - JW
4 - TB
5 - WE

With big minutes for:
SM (Backing up the PG, and big minutes at the off-guard, where I think he's best)
DD (Time at 2 and 3)

Possible big contributions from:
MK
JP
AT
JE
EM

One of the three bigs should get lots of minutes and move up into the "Big Minutes" category. I'm hoping for that to be JP or AT... Since I think MK could be a great fill in at the 3 if he can get his defense in shape. EM, I'm not sure, if he gets past that sophomore slump and starts playing a bit like I'd imagined after his freshman season, he could be a primary back up at the point. Eastman, if JW shows up and is as advertised, is seeing just a few minutes as a zonebreaker.
 
SFP said:
I just do not see anyone capable of denying DSE from starting next year! He plays great D, passes the ball as well if not better then anyone else, finishes his plays and plays with a ton of passion. He is our poor man Derrick Rose in the best of ways! There is not one guy besides him that can go to the basket and free up the bigs and get them the ball like he does. JL is about starting the guys who deserve to start, not their year in school, otherwise SS would be starting.
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Yeah, given his current level of performance, I wouldn't be surprised to see him start some this season, even. SM's level of play is the same whether he's coming off the bench or starting-- he's shown that. I also think that while he's a very good player to have, and I love his burst scoring capability and gritty determination, he's actually regressed a bit as far as distribution goes this year and his defense has never been great. If things keep going well for DSE I think he stands to be the best point on the team this year, and Sammy can keep getting his minutes and maybe get a bit more scoring if he's playing off the ball.
 
SFP said:
I just do not see anyone capable of denying DSE from starting next year! He plays great D, passes the ball as well if not better then anyone else, finishes his plays and plays with a ton of passion. He is our poor man Derrick Rose in the best of ways! There is not one guy besides him that can go to the basket and free up the bigs and get them the ball like he does. JL is about starting the guys who deserve to start, not their year in school, otherwise SS would be starting.
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While that is true and I don't dispute that about the year in school, I think SM, AW, and DD have all earned there time and are big contributors and leaders for this team. I don't think DSE should start over them in their last year because they have earned it as seniors not just because they are seniors. With JW, TB, and WE at the 3,4,5 I just don't see DSE starting, and even if JW doesn't come I think SM, DD, and AW have earned the starting roles as theirs to lose, both as leaders and players. DSE is great and he will be a big contributor next year and a tremedous starters the following 2 years, but I think it is those guys time now until they lose it, just my opinion though.
 
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