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Danny Granger greatest BU Player ever?
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bigdaddystuck
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Ben (POY) Coupet
Hersey Hawkins or Chet Walker are the best by far.
Danny Granger, Brave or lobo, has been a good player on a terrible team.
If you compare Hawk's first years in Philly, he put up quite the stat lines. Hawk averaged 20 points per game on playoff teams for 4 years or so, something Danny Granger wouldn't know about. After getting traded to Charlotte and then Seattle, he became a 3rd or 4th option on some pretty **** good teams.
Oh and he played in **** near every single game his team played.
Chet may have been a better player, but Hawk is just a great human being.
If you want a great Danny Granger comparison, Shareef Abdur-Rahim. A decent player on a bad team(because someone has to score) that is able to put up lofty stats. When Shareef finally got a chance on a good team, he was 6th man at best, averaging 10 a game.
And I think ,if AP had gone to a different situation when he was drafted, he would be in the conversation. Thanks Larry Brown, AI, and Stackhouse.
Danny Granger, Brave or lobo, has been a good player on a terrible team.
If you compare Hawk's first years in Philly, he put up quite the stat lines. Hawk averaged 20 points per game on playoff teams for 4 years or so, something Danny Granger wouldn't know about. After getting traded to Charlotte and then Seattle, he became a 3rd or 4th option on some pretty **** good teams.
Oh and he played in **** near every single game his team played.
Chet may have been a better player, but Hawk is just a great human being.
If you want a great Danny Granger comparison, Shareef Abdur-Rahim. A decent player on a bad team(because someone has to score) that is able to put up lofty stats. When Shareef finally got a chance on a good team, he was 6th man at best, averaging 10 a game.
And I think ,if AP had gone to a different situation when he was drafted, he would be in the conversation. Thanks Larry Brown, AI, and Stackhouse.
"If you want a great Danny Granger comparison, Shareef Abdur-Rahim. A decent player on a bad team(because someone has to score) that is able to put up lofty stats. When Shareef finally got a chance on a good team, he was 6th man at best, averaging 10 a game."
Yeah, great comparison. :roll: Oh wait, never mind. From what I remember about the recent Team USA victory at the FIBA World Championships, Coach K wasn't stocking a whole lot of marginal 6th men on that squad...
Yeah, great comparison. :roll: Oh wait, never mind. From what I remember about the recent Team USA victory at the FIBA World Championships, Coach K wasn't stocking a whole lot of marginal 6th men on that squad...
Yeah, it must have been full of the best players in the world... Like LeBron, Kobe, Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Dwight Howard, Kevin Garnet, Ray Allen, Carmelo Anthony, Deron Williams, Joe Johnson, Paul Pierce, Chris Paul, Amare Stoudamire, Tim Duncan... Oh wait, that's right, they only had 4 All-Stars and ZERO All-Star starters, that was nothing more than than a few NBA starters put on a team.
Danny Granger hasn't even made an All-Star team, whereas Shareef Abdur-Rahim made one. Shareef probably has a much better career to than Granger to date.
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sousaman2089
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I'd have to go with Chet.
A. He was a dynamic player who played in a slow paced era of basketball, his stats dont show it but what the stats do show is that his points per game average went up as he got older and the NBA became more reflective of the ABA. If he had played in primarily in the 70s, he would be a much more heralded player.
B. He played on one of the greatest teams in NBA history (1966-1967 Philadelphia 76ers) which some may see as an easy way to degrade his stats, but i like players who can play within a system that revolved on a team concept than being the lone good talent on a team (like Granger). Basically its harder to excel at team basketball then one on one basketball
C. He had to play with Wilt, the most selfish basketball player possibly ever, and he STILL got his points.
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D. He is the first athlete to gain the nickname "The Jet"
A. He was a dynamic player who played in a slow paced era of basketball, his stats dont show it but what the stats do show is that his points per game average went up as he got older and the NBA became more reflective of the ABA. If he had played in primarily in the 70s, he would be a much more heralded player.
B. He played on one of the greatest teams in NBA history (1966-1967 Philadelphia 76ers) which some may see as an easy way to degrade his stats, but i like players who can play within a system that revolved on a team concept than being the lone good talent on a team (like Granger). Basically its harder to excel at team basketball then one on one basketball
C. He had to play with Wilt, the most selfish basketball player possibly ever, and he STILL got his points.
and
D. He is the first athlete to gain the nickname "The Jet"
What does some world championship appearance have to do with the price of tea in china?
He was the 11th man on a 12 man roster.
Oh, and by the way, Shareef Abdur Rahim played in the actual Olympics! (2000 gold medal) Young Daniel won't sniff the Olympics in 2012 if Lebron, Dwayne, Kobe, or any actual superstar decides to play. If Olympic appearances mean squat in the grand scheme of things, then Christian Laetnerr better get ready for his hall of fame speach. What a weak argument.
Hersey Hawkins > Shareef Abdur Rahim > Danny Granger.
Agree with all except "D." Chet Forte, concensus All America and POY at Columbia in 1957, as the first to be called "The Jet." The Jet was selected POY over The Stilt.
At this point Hawk and Chet were better. Granger is still playing and you have to wait until his career plays out to say he was better or not IMO as far as a pro.
Granger left and had a very good college career. some guys leave and think they will do better somewhere else and don't....in fact it seems to me when guys leave they don't seem to do all that well.
This is just a general comment nothing that I could prove.
Many would make a case for Deon Jackson was one of the greatest players for BU but playing for Mo limited him some.
Hawk flourished under Albeck's style and probably wouldn't have had the college career he had if Versace had been there
It's just really difficult to compare players,eras,etc
Granger left and had a very good college career. some guys leave and think they will do better somewhere else and don't....in fact it seems to me when guys leave they don't seem to do all that well.
This is just a general comment nothing that I could prove.
Many would make a case for Deon Jackson was one of the greatest players for BU but playing for Mo limited him some.
Hawk flourished under Albeck's style and probably wouldn't have had the college career he had if Versace had been there
It's just really difficult to compare players,eras,etc
houstontxbrave
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Honestly one of the best players to have ever put on a Bradley uniform was Dion Thurman. The guy was a stud and a complete loser all wrapped into one. I guarantee if his head would have been on straight, he would have after 4 years been right there as one of the best all time.
Danny Granger played in the 2009 All-Star game:
http://www.nba.com/games/20090215/ESTWST/boxscore.html
I stand corrected. He has not been voted to a All-Star game, he was an injury sub, but even then, I didn't know that, it wasn't in his profile I was looking at. My mistake.
Missouri Brave
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To be fair, Hawk only made one All-Star appearance as well and that was also as an injury sub. 1991, I believe.
I have never heard that Hawkins' 1991 All Star selection was the result of any injuries. And I cannot find any reference of that. In 1990-91, Hawk's 3rd season, he had his best year, registering career highs in scoring (22.1 ppg), field-goal percentage (.472), and steals (2.23 per game). He deserved the All Star selection.
He had a lot of talent, not so sure he was top 10 material but then with the drug abuse it is hard to project how much better he could have been.
According to this, Granger wasn't an injury sub:
http://www.nba.com/history/allstar/injury_replacements.html