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Creighton player quits

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Creighton 5th year senior Casey Harriman has decided to quit the team and end his basketball career at Creighton. He has only played in 5 of Creighton's 14 games this season, and averages 2.6 minutes per game this season (by far the lowest playing time in his 4 years at Creighton). He has had some injury issues and those played a part in his decision. Also, he was recruited by Dana Altman, and now in Coach Greg McDermott's system which incorporates fewer players each game, he was not a significant part of the playing rotation.

Bio-
http://www.gocreighton.com/ViewArti...9&DB_OEM_ID=1000&ATCLID=1145646&Q_SEASON=2010

Career stats-
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/62206

Creighton stats for 2010-2011
http://www.gocreighton.com/fls/1000/stats/m-basketball/1011/teamcume.htm
 
that's too bad -- he was a really great shooter in high school.
Harriman was a career 42% 3-pt shooter for his first 3 years at Creighton -- then something happened...
it might have been the shoulder injury or maybe the intensive weight training that bulked up Casey and alters the shooting technique...

anyway, Creighton really has only one perimeter player who averages more than 5 ppg....and with Wragge out and Josh Jones shooting only 10% from outside (2-20)..you'd have thoought Mac would have found a big need to get Harriman back...
 
his main problem is the same exact injury as Nate Funk...a torn labrum in his non-shooting arm...(his right shoulder troubles him some, too)

Funk would have played with the injury except he still had a year and could redshirt...so he did...
Harriman could theoretically play as these injuries do not always require immediate surgery...but the decision to opt for surgery now would be an individual thing, so maybe the pain was too much..even tho he has no option for a redshirt year now...

..note he specifically blames the intensive weight lifting protocol that college guys have to do as the cause for the career ending injury...
that's unfortunate...and reminiscent of another kid at Creighton, Ty Morrison -- a 4-Star recruit and #1 juco player nationally,
who also blamed the rigorous conditioning he was forced to undergo at Creighton even while ill, and the fact that he was forced to play despite wanting to redshirt with his illness, that then ruined his entire career.
http://mattperrault.blogspot.com/2007/05/was-ty-done-right-by-cu.html

Maybe they ought to take it easy on some kids..
 
From the play-by-play, Casey Harriman entered the game with 38 seconds left in the 2nd half and Creighton down 65-53, then left the game at a clock stoppage at 19 seconds left. It was Coach Greg McDermott's way to allow the Creighton crowd to give him a final ovation. It was a nice gesture with the game decided at that point.

It's mentioned here in the bottom "Notes" section-
http://www.gocreighton.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=1000&ATCLID=205071746

http://whiteandbluereview.com/?p=10077

he is undergoing surgery today (Wed. 1/5) so that was his last appearance in a game for CU.
 
"Senior forward Casey Harriman, who is undergoing career-ending shoulder
surgery tomorrow, played parts of the final minute and received multiple
standing ovations from the home crowd"

that is nice that in LARGE part the Creighton fans love and support their players even when they fail to produce very much...wish we'd see more of that..
 
tornado said:
his main problem is the same exact injury as Nate Funk...a torn labrum in his non-shooting arm...(his right shoulder troubles him some, too)
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Actually, he has torn labrums in both shoulders. The one side is so bad that he can't even lift his arm.

He didn't just "quit", he can't compete with just one arm and he knows it. The post that started this thread is one of the most inaccurate comments I've ever seen on any board, anywhere. The injuries didn't just "play a part" in his decision, they were the ENTIRE reason. His lack of minutes were due to his injury, not because "McDermott's system utilizes fewer players." Those comments were so inaccurate that the poster should be embarrassed for making them.

Apparently only Bradley is allowed to have season ending injuries --- at every other MVC school players just "quit." Ridiculous.
 
Double Jay -- the injuries have been there since he was a sophomore according to all the articles...

so if the injuries were the only thing, then he'd have quit long ago...

even your own local newspaper interviwed Casey and he pointed to the fact, that his decision did hinge on other issues...
that Casey is planning to graduate and enter the work force and seek employment, thus he didn't want to delay his surgery into the late spring then get stuck in a long rehab
and not be able to seek a job when he's done with school...


so in reality, even tho the injuries have been there for three years...the current timing of having the surgery now, IN CASEY'S OWN TESTIMONY, was due to his desire to get going with a career in June...........
otherwise he'd have quit at the beginning of the seaosn and had the surgery them or last year or the year before....right??
...thus the comment about other reasons is quite valid and accurate...
 
DoubleJayAlum said:
Actually, he has torn labrums in both shoulders. The one side is so bad that he can't even lift his arm.

He didn't just "quit", he can't compete with just one arm and he knows it. The post that started this thread is one of the most inaccurate comments I've ever seen on any board, anywhere. The injuries didn't just "play a part" in his decision, they were the ENTIRE reason. His lack of minutes were due to his injury, not because "McDermott's system utilizes fewer players." Those comments were so inaccurate that the poster should be embarrassed for making them.

Apparently only Bradley is allowed to have season ending injuries --- at every other MVC school players just "quit." Ridiculous.
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There is not a single inaccuracy in the post. He did quit the team. He is not just leaving to have surgery, he is planning on not returning. That is the definition of quitting. And, that is the difference between the Bradley players with injuries. They are staying part of the team, continuing to work out, will remain on the bench, and will return next season. Sorry you can't see the difference, and that my choice of words offends you, but they are factual. My post did describe the injury reason. But you are not being honest if you think Harriman, even if healthy, would be playing as much for McDermott as he did for Altman. There have been numerous examples of players in Harriman's situation who have appealed to the NCAA for an extra year of eligibility and been granted it. None of the reports suggest he will do this. The published reports state clearly that he is "ending his career", and "hanging up his jersey". It seems the only problem here is your inference of a completely different meaning of the word "quit" than was intended.
Definition of the "quit"-
verb (used without object)
- to cease from doing something; stop.
- to depart or leave.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quit
 
Sounds like he is still going to be with the team. (from the link above)

He’ll remain with the team through the season. Coach Coach Greg McDermott has jokingly told Harriman that he’s going to make him the team’s assistant conditioning coach.
“I think Casey would find a little pleasure watching his teammates run,’’ McDermott said.
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“His teammates obviously have a great deal of respect for him,’’ the coach said, “and I think he’ll continue to be a leader for our team even though he won’t be in uniform.’’
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It doesn't sound like he quit to me. It sounds like an injury ended his season and his career.
 
He could go the Sam Singh route :lol:

How did Herzog introduce him one night, Perpetual Senior? haha

But seriously, he may have chosen to not appeal for an extra year because coming back from a shoulder surgery as a shooter would almost be not worth it for one more year of basketball. A torn labrum is a painful thing, usually seen in baseball pitchers and other people who use mostly their shoulders, ie. a 3pt. shooter. The rehab is tough for a torn labrum and it is quite a lengthy process. It would take him longer to get back into basketball shape, get his shooting touch back, etc. that it wasnt worth it.
 
tornado said:
"Senior forward Casey Harriman, who is undergoing career-ending shoulder
surgery tomorrow, played parts of the final minute and received multiple
standing ovations from the home crowd"

that is nice that in LARGE part the Creighton fans love and support their players even when they fail to produce very much...wish we'd see more of that..
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Now you are saying the fans do not support the players? Even from some of our biggest NEGATIVE NELLIES on this board the usual rip is saved for the coach not the players. I have to say the majority of the fans at BU are pretty good and would gladly give a standing ovation for any player at BU in Casey Harriman's shoes! We did support SS after all the trials and tribulations he went through!

The quitting comment was a bit over the top IMO. We should know better and probably not encourage that type of spin. We would have gone ape if someone said the same thing about one of our players. There's some Biblical reference abut casting the first stone.
 
SFP -- are you serious??
Have you not seen the rip both subtle and blatant about many players year after year...
Cello
JJ Tauai
TCS
SS
MS
RB
BH
MR
LS
ZA
and now even rips at Andrew Warren...if you need links, let me know...
I am saying a certain segment of chronically unhappy fans never stop with their criticisms, and have unloaded on lots of fine BU players.
 
You are right, it happens everywhere. Even Harriman has been derided by some unhappy fans on the Creighton message board in the past for not living up to their expectations.
 
tornado said:
SFP -- are you serious??
Have you not seen the rip both subtle and blatant about many players year after year...
Cello
JJ Tauai
TCS
SS
MS
RB
BH
MR
LS
ZA
and now even rips at Andrew Warren...if you need links, let me know...
I am saying a certain segment of chronically unhappy fans never stop with their criticisms, and have unloaded on lots of fine BU players.
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Dont forget Reggie Hall, he couldnt win in intra murals!
 
tornado said:
SFP -- are you serious??
Have you not seen the rip both subtle and blatant about many players year after year...
Cello
JJ Tauai
TCS
SS
MS
RB
BH
MR
LS
ZA
and now even rips at Andrew Warren...if you need links, let me know...
I am saying a certain segment of chronically unhappy fans never stop with their criticisms, and have unloaded on lots of fine BU players.
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T you're better then that. That's what is a bit disturbing to me. Taking a shot at Harriman was just not right until all the facts came in. We've seen our kids thrown under the bus and have criticized other for doing it so we should also hold back until all the facts are reasonably in. Do you agree? I've seen the rips and have voiced my displeasure for our players or any player being ripped unless they are thugs/criminals/low life types!
 
what?? would you please check the few posts I have in this thread because I think you'll agree I have taken no shots at anyone...you must have me mistaken for someone else.
 
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