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Conference realignment

Thanks for the detailed info, Coach. I think I remember reading at one time that the reason the Big 10 chose Rutgers and Maryland was to expand their coverage to the east coast to increase national interest and revenue. I remember thinking how much more fun it would have been to add teams like Missouri and Kansas and being disappointed.

Makes you wonder why Notre Dame has turned them down so many times.
 
ND has turned down the B10 because the B10 wants them to give up their exclusive NBC contract. The ACC let them keep it so they went there.
 
Mikovio said:
ND has turned down the B10 because the B10 wants them to give up their exclusive NBC contract. The ACC let them keep it so they went there.
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ND is only in the ACC basketball though, right? They aren't currently part of their football conference?
 
Well the ACC and ND relationship in football is complicated. The Irish were actually full ACC members last year and played Clemson in the ACC title game but that was necessitated by Covid. Generally they play 4-5 ACC teams and share the ACC's bowl tie-ins but maintain "independence" to keep their separate TV contract and have schedule flexibility to keep playing their traditional rivals (Navy, Mich, USC, Stanford)
 
Mikovio said:
It's an exciting time. Either the rest of the B12 band together and backfill or the B10/SEC/ACC/P12 pick off the other top ones and ISU/KSU/OSU might be forced into the AAC or something. The basketball-only conferences like the Valley/BE/A10 seem unlikely to be impacted but it's possible if UConn leaves the BE or the AAC needs replacements.
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It looks like the AAC and the B12 are entangled in a death match, with the B12 throwing accusations at the AAC and ESPN -- https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...bers-with-texas-oklahoma-leaving-for-sec/amp/
 
Rumor is that Kansas may not wait around for the demise of the Big 12. They are reportedly trying to cut a deal with the Big Ten.

Iowa State has also reportedly reached out to the Big Ten, but apparently there is not as much interest in them.
 
The 3 commissioners from the Big Ten, ACC, and Pac-12 announced late yesterday that they have formed an "Alliance" which aims to "stabilize a volatile environment" in college football. The details are scarce, and so far there are only verbal agreements, no contracts, and nothing in writing, but some of the comments I heard are that they claim this is necessary to "save college football" from the actions of the SEC poaching Texas and Oklahoma from the Big-12.
Oddly, the Big-12 was not involved at all in this "Alliance". That might to be somewhat of a death knell for what is left of the Big-12.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...-sec-back-off/
https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...nt-environment

As always, this move is mostly about football, mainly FBS, which is where the schools get most of their revenue. However, it will have a significant effect on lower-level football schools and on non-football schools.
How will this affect the mid-major schools like Bradley? Hard to say at this early stage, but another comment from the 3 commissioners yesterday was that "the scheduling component for football and women's and men's basketball will begin as soon as practical while honoring current contractual obligations."
This suggests the "Alliance" will lead to more scheduled games in men's and women's basketball among the members of these 3 Power Conferences (Big 10, ACC, & Pac-12), which would obviously lead to fewer chances for mid-majors to get games scheduled against the big boys, and few, if any, chances for mid-majors to appear on national TV.
It's possible that in time the 68-team NCAA tournament will evolve and contain fewer, maybe no, mid-major at-large teams, and possibly could even be modified to include fewer mid-major auto-bids. IMO, there is no way this is good for the mid-majors.
 
i think it is time for a separation. Power 5 conferences play each other during season and stage their own NCAA tournament. It will become the NBA division 2,
and look like the NBA model, which has sacrificed team play. Mid majors compete during basketball season and stage their own NCAA
tournament. The product could be more attractive by necessity, and include more team play.. NCAA will want to help, as their power position is slipping.

The 8 seed Loyola win over number 1 seed Illinois in NCAA 2021 tournament can be used as my example. A better team coached team easily outplayed a team loaded with power 5 players. I know, anecdotal!
 
Scoretable said:
i think it is time for a separation. Power 5 conferences play each other during season and stage their own NCAA tournament. It will become the NBA division 2,
and look like the NBA model, which has sacrificed team play. Mid majors compete during basketball season and stage their own NCAA
tournament. The product could be more attractive by necessity, and include more team play.. NCAA will want to help, as their power position is slipping.

The 8 seed Loyola win over number 1 seed Illinois in NCAA 2021 tournament can be used as my example. A better team coached team easily outplayed a team loaded with power 5 players. I know, anecdotal!
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I think that's the wrong course of action. That is what the power Conferences want. They want the separation of what they think are the money schools ( elite) and the Mid - Majors. The NCAA tournament would lose its attractiveness. People like to see the big boys get knocked to reality when they get beat. David versus Goliath. Keep it as is. I think you will see the Big boys devour themselves in greed fighting among each other. All the good players cant all play at the "Big Schools". There are enough good players to go around so the smaller schools can still be successful
 
I am not a legal expert by any way but wouldn’t the conferences getting together to agree not to schedule mid majors be an antitrust violation ?
 
houstonbrave said:
I am not a legal expert by any way but wouldn’t the conferences getting together to agree not to schedule mid majors be an antitrust violation ?
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The NCAA argued they were exempt from anti-trust laws in the recent case involving Name, Image, and Likeness rules. The Supreme Court didn't buy it.
I am not a lawyer, either, but I am not sure this scheduling issue would fall under the same kind of scrutiny. Schools and conferences have always had the rights to determine who they schedule. The way I see it, it wouldn't be much different than the rules that every conference has that require members to play each other member twice a year. In this case, their Alliance would dictate they play a certain number of games against members of the other Alliance conference teams. Right now, there are a number of conferences involved in "challenge series" against other conferences. It seems they could frame this similar to that.
 
Basketball will evolve into two sub-classes within D-1, like what football has, and there will be two championship tournaments with most of the attention going to the high majors. This will be an unfortunate development for mid-majors.
 
64NIT said:
Basketball will evolve into two sub-classes within D-1, like what football has, and there will be two championship tournaments with most of the attention going to the high majors. This will be an unfortunate development for mid-majors.
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It will be an unfortunate development for all of college basketball
 
64NIT said:
Basketball will evolve into two sub-classes within D-1, like what football has, and there will be two championship tournaments with most of the attention going to the high majors. This will be an unfortunate development for mid-majors.
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That seems like one of the most likely outcomes, but there are others.
Regardless of what happens over the next few years, almost certainly the NCAA's college basketball revenue will shift more and more to the Power 6 conferences (just as the football revenue already has), and the mid-majors will get less and less. I think we'll see some Di schools drop down or even out of the NCAA, or form a new association. And it seems likely there will be more smaller schools who drop sports, or maybe drop athletic programs altogether.

FCS football is very expensive for those schools who play in that lower division and get little or none of the huge pot of FBS money, and don't get much TV or ticket-sale money. I have to think we'll start seeing mid-major schools dropping football, which will have a domino effect leading to women's sports being dropped.
 
With this development by these conferences and with the recent decision to pay/compensate players, the Power 6 conferences will become nothing more than farm teams for the NBA, more so than they already are.
 
Despite rumors, the Pac-12 today announced they will not consider expansion at this time.
https://twitter.com/pac12/status/1430966984393457664

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I wonder if this was part of their verbal agreement "Alliance" with the Big Ten & ACC?
 
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