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Conference Realignment... AGAIN

BUFanatic

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With the possible breakup of the Big XII, my thoughts turn to how this may positively affect the MVC. I think the possibility of Iowa State or Kansas or Kansas State joining the MVC is fairly reasonable if the conference collapses. Iowa State definitely would be a possibility for me, but what does everyone think? It would be hard for them and Kansas to give up football methinks, but Missouri State has a decent program. Thoughts?
 
We won't get them. The Big East has interest in Kansas, Kansas St, and Missouri, and the Mountain West would have interest in everybody that doesn't end up with a BCS home.

MVC, not having FBS football, is in a bad position to go out and pick up assets unless those assets don't have football either.

Then again, literally about every scenario in the history of history could be in play once we have a 16-team football conference in existence.
 
We won't get them. The Big East has interest in Kansas, Kansas St, and Missouri, and the Mountain West would have interest in everybody that doesn't end up with a BCS home.

MVC, not having FBS football, is in a bad position to go out and pick up assets unless those assets don't have football either.

Then again, literally about every scenario in the history of history could be in play once we have a 16-team football conference in existence.

That last part was pretty much what I was going on hahaha. All the original 8 were members of the MVC at one point... maybe it's time for a change back? :)
 
Most likely the Big XII won't dissolve entirely and disappear, so I don't think the MVC should be concerned about which Big XII team we should look to absorb. Just the opposite, the Big XII will look to replace Texas A&M and might look at picking off an MVC team, though since football is so important to them, I am not sure there is any school in the MVC with a strong enough football team.
 
Most likely the Big XII won't dissolve entirely and disappear, so I don't think the MVC should be concerned about which Big XII team we should look to absorb. Just the opposite, the Big XII will look to replace Texas A&M and might look at picking off an MVC team, though since football is so important to them, I am not sure there is any school in the MVC with a strong enough football team.
No one in the Valley has good enough football programs to compete in D-1 football plus the overall cost would keep this from happening.
 
Most likely the Big XII won't dissolve entirely and disappear, so I don't think the MVC should be concerned about which Big XII team we should look to absorb. Just the opposite, the Big XII will look to replace Texas A&M and might look at picking off an MVC team, though since football is so important to them, I am not sure there is any school in the MVC with a strong enough football team.

Yeah, I think they'll poach the entirety of CUSA before they think about a MVC team.

BUFanatic said:
That last part was pretty much what I was going on hahaha. All the original 8 were members of the MVC at one point... maybe it's time for a change back?
There is one theoretical scenario that could play out - the MVC could become Big East lite with 8 football schools and 8 non football schools, as the football schools move up to FBS. No one in the league is a candidate for one of the superconferences, so this league trying to become the next CUSA for football and Big East Lite for basketball could work.
 
Iowa State because of geography & poor success the past few years might end up an orphan and beg to get in the MVC, MWC, or CUSA...

The strongest thing arguing against that is that football - as bad as it's been over the past couple decades, still draws 45-50,000
 
With the possible breakup of the Big XII, my thoughts turn to how this may positively affect the MVC. I think the possibility of Iowa State or Kansas or Kansas State joining the MVC is fairly reasonable if the conference collapses. Iowa State definitely would be a possibility for me, but what does everyone think? It would be hard for them and Kansas to give up football methinks, but Missouri State has a decent program. Thoughts?

Ha ha! I would love Kansas to become part of the Valley, but methinks whatever you are smoking BUfanatic is contributing to your wishful thinking. :D
 
Iowa State because of geography & poor success the past few years might end up an orphan and beg to get in the MVC, MWC, or CUSA...

The strongest thing arguing against that is that football - as bad as it's been over the past couple decades, still draws 45-50,000

Good point. They will look for a football only conference even if they are winless in basketball the next five years, as long as they draw a robust number of fans for their team
 
If the Big XII is forced to scavange for new members, it looks to me like their best targets would be from Conference USA.
 
If they lose OU, the big 12 I think falls apart. I have a couple big conferences lined up for when the "elite" money schools leave everyone (ncaa included) behind.
 
The way Bob Stoops is talking about everything, it sounds like OU wants to burn every bridge possible. It's like OU is on a power trip to prove to everyone they're as important as Texas. And the power trip is going to bury the league (although it might've been buried already without it).
 
Ha ha! I would love Kansas to become part of the Valley, but methinks whatever you are smoking BUfanatic is contributing to your wishful thinking. :D

HEY! I can dream can't I? KU hasn't done well in football, that's the only reason I mention it.

The way Bob Stoops is talking about everything, it sounds like OU wants to burn every bridge possible. It's like OU is on a power trip to prove to everyone they're as important as Texas. And the power trip is going to bury the league (although it might've been buried already without it).

The power trip is not only OU. It's OU, Texas, Texas A&M, and to some extent OSU. Don't be surprised if Missouri pops in there soon too.
 
Desperate men are beginning to do desperate things.

http://www.baylor.edu/nation/texasfootball.htm

Baylor is doing everything, and I mean everything, to stop it all. Rescinding their refusal to sue the SEC over taking A&M, in an attempt to stop it from happening. This campaign to keep the other Texas schools out of a Pac-16.

They must see the writing on the wall and realize they are doomed if the Big 12 breaks up as they cannot stand alone and would most likely end up a member of CUSA after the fallout.
 
HEY! I can dream can't I? KU hasn't done well in football, that's the only reason I mention it.

Oh, of course. Just kidding around with you BU. :D I like to dream the Valley might get certain teams here (Butler comes to mind). And considering much of the current Big 12 or whatever they are called these days were members of the Valley back in the day. So you never know what might happen in the future.
 
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