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but when mid-majors scheduled wisely and in their best interests -- all the loudmouth, talking heads like Digger Phelps, Jim Nance, Jay Bilas, Billy Packer, and other coaches like Gary Williams, Tom Penders, etc..
all said what the mid-majors were doing was NOT FAIR..
and they the smaller schools were pulling strings, and cheating the RPI ranking system.

In other words...the very system that the BCS big boys devised to help themselves and their 6th best teams get into the NCAA ahead of some of the conference winners and 2nd place teams on the smaller conferences...

was now being jobbed by the uppity little guys...and so the system (the RPI) had to be changed or disregarded.

this is exactly why teams like Missouri State would be and could be excluded from the NCAA when they had an RPI that was one of the best 21 RPI's in all of Division I basketball!

My point is that this is all more of the continuing HYPOCRISY OF THE NCAA and its big school members who are conspiring and plotting to do whatever it takes to keep the same six major conferences getting as much of the revenue as possible and eliminating any chance of smaller schools from getting post-season revenue and/or any chance to actually win in the post season.

I have been consistent in pointing out this hypocrisy and unfairness...and only slowly are others seeing the same thing when NCAA selection comes around and when NCAA penalties are unfairly handed down.


here is just one article on this...from the Washington Post (big time Georgetown, Maryland, ACC, Big East people) - saying what the MVC is doing is unfair and amounts to cheating. In this article both Penders and Gary Williams rip the MVC.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/04/AR2006030401283.html
 
Look, all we hear is how hard scheduling is and the big boys won't play the little guys:!: Then maybe its time for the NCAA to step in and rectify this issue someway. They stick their noses in about everything Else! But keep in mine that MONEY Talks and BS Walks:!:
On the other side of this coin, Why can't we schedule quality Mid Major schools, some that I have at lease heard of and know where they are located:roll: Maybe, just Maybe we need a AD with connections and known through out the B-Ball world:-o
 
Out of Balance said:
Why can't we schedule quality Mid Major schools, some that I have at lease heard of and know where they are located:roll:
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This is something that I have advocated for quite a while as well. We can get our shot with the BCS schools with the early tournaments and then schedule up with quality mid-major schools. This is the way to break the system that has been established by the NCAA.imho
 
Out of Balance said:
..Why can't we schedule quality Mid Major schools..
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unfortunately this is the only solution....and it will be difficult...

what mid-majors like Bradley must do is along the same line as what BCS-schools do to us and that is just refuse to play the next tier below you...in other words...the Valley teams need to aim only at scheduling big teams (when they will play us like the Iowa/Iowa State/Drake/UNI series or other negotiated deals with BCS schools), and other top midmajors...and then only a few select others, maybe instate rivals, and NOT play the low-majors.

We can always round out the schedule with the very low D-I's like the BCS teams do, the automatic wins at HOME like the Longwoods, the Winston Salems, and the SUIE's.

in other words..as unfortunate as it may be....we need to stick it to the next guys beneath us on the totem pole, in the same way the BCS schools stick it to us. but we need to forge allinces with the MWC, A-10, and CUSA as the only other conferences we'll work with.
I think the time has come to hold the Horizon games, skip the Summit games, oust the OVC & MAC opponents, and upgrade the non-con schedule as best as we can.
I know this is easier said than done, but maybe head this direction.
 
Out of Balance said:
Look, all we hear is how hard scheduling is and the big boys won't play the little guys:!: Then maybe its time for the NCAA to step in and rectify this issue someway. They stick their noses in about everything Else! But keep in mine that MONEY Talks and BS Walks:!:
On the other side of this coin, Why can't we schedule quality Mid Major schools, some that I have at lease heard of and know where they are located:roll: Maybe, just Maybe we need a AD with connections and known through out the B-Ball world:-o
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This theory sounds great on paper, but there are flaws:

Good mid major teams are tougher to find. There's simply not as many as people think, and getting schedules to line u pis also harder than you think. Just think back to last year and to everyone who put SIU on the non-con, thinking they were getting a resume builder game.
 
I would put forth the following edict:

The following conferences are approved:
The Big 6
A-10
CUSA
MWC
WAC
Sun Belt
Horizon
MAC (they're usually much better than the dreck we saw last year)
CAA
Plus anyone else who was top 75 RPI or better in the previous year (or some other benchmark number)
I'd say WCC, but travel cost is also a factor

Everyone else? No. You're not allowed to schedule more than 1 games against everyone else (exempt tournaments exempted).

Of course, for all we know, this could result in us scheduling another 6 Horizon non-con games :lol:


The really sad thing is we're complaining about the BCS teams being snobs, and the only way we can fight back is to be snobs ourselves. Survival of the fittest.
 
And my above suggestion would improve our RPI even further. Remember, we didn't get MSU in at RPI 21 that one year, but we DID get 4 teams in, all pretty high in the RPI. We need an army of teams invading the RPI Top 50 - they can't ignore us ALL. The last couple of years, we couldn't get multiple teams way up there.
 
I agree that the system is slanted against mid-majors. But the fact is that the MVC hasn't done much impressive the past couple years. We've had our chances at multiple marquee wins and didn't finish. We'll have chances again this year. It all comes down to Just Win, Baby.
 
TheAsianSensation said:
This theory sounds great on paper, but there are flaws:

Good mid major teams are tougher to find. There's simply not as many as people think, and getting schedules to line u pis also harder than you think. Just think back to last year and to everyone who put SIU on the non-con, thinking they were getting a resume builder game.
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Their out there my friend, and we need to be able to schedule 2 good ones a year:!: If we cannot do that then our climb up will never happen, as BU will never, never get there playing the underrated and unknowns:eek:
 
Hello again all! Just figured I'd chirp in on this one. We as mid-majors just have to win! We can't lose these close games to the UIC's and Loyola's of the world. We have to beat everyone we play. We cannot afford to just hang with Butler, or split the series with ISU. It's just that simple. We all know that these big time schools do not wanna come into Carver and deal with US! We can get pretty rowdy when the games get big. I really do not think that we are FORCED to schedule these D2 programs. I think that there are plenty of Div 1 teams that would play us, we just have got to spend time to try and find them. Scheduling in any business does not get the time that it needs. The coaches are so busy trying to recruit and get the best talent that they sometimes do not go the extra mile to work on the schedule. This is just my opinion! As far as what any of the so called "pundits" say I could care less. That's just me. I love the Braves and my philosophy is that if we just win ball games everything will works itself out.
 
Let's just win...

Let's just win...

I don't much care who BU plays as some year's the schedule is easier than others. That's just the way it is. What I do care about is winning every game, period. How many games has BU had in the last several years that seemed before the season to look like a pushover or at the least just a "mediocre" game and we LOST! THAT is what I want to stop whether it is at home or the road. I'm sick of going to a home game right after we just got beat on the road by a bad team. WIN, period Coach Les. And to be quite honest, that really has not happened for quite a long time. Even the Sweet 16 year BU lost some games and probably did not deserve a bid based on some of the bad games they played that year.

Finally, let's finish somewhere other than 4-6 in the league. I am sick of that too. That is a pattern that is inexcusable considering Coach Les sold himself during his interviews that he would bring BU back to national prominence. The only BU he has helped get back to national prominence is Butler U. by losing to them and adding to their winning record. Finishing 4-6 in the MVC for several years in a row is not even significant prominence in the league, let alone nationally. BU NEEDS TO START WINNING GAMES no matter who they play.

(And please don't anyone put out the 20 win season stats... I just ate lunch. We all know that most of those 20 win seasons would not have happened if it were not for the bogus post-season tourneys we have found ourselves in the last couple years and the fact that most of those games were at home.)
 
Just out of curiousity, who would you guys classify as the type of mid major we should schedule? Throwing out the Big 6 teams, Gonzaga, and Memphis for obvious reasons, I really truly wonder how many teams fit perfectly into the strategy. In order to really realistically carry out the strategy, we need a large pool of teams to choose from - it's not like every single elite mid major will perfectly fit into our schedule, and vice versa.
 
tornado said:
I'd say - the upper crust of A-10, CUSA, MWC, and some from Colonial..
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I wouldn't mind seeing almost any team from those confereces if we can get them, but the upper crust would be better. I would like to see UW-Green Bay from the Horizon. They are usually good and they play a decent schedule in a good league.
 
Here are all "mid-majors" (excluding Gonzaga and Memphis) with an RPI of 125 or better last season......

Atlantic 10
Xavier
Dayton
Temple
Rhode Island
Duquesne
St. Joseph's
La Salle
St. Louis

Conference USA
UAB
Tulsa
UTEP
Houston

WAC
Utah St.
Nevada
Boise St.
New Mexico St.

Horizon
Butler
Cleveland St.
Wisc.-Green Bay
Wright St.

MAAC
Siena
Niagara
Fairfield
Rider

Colonial
VCU
George Mason
Northeastern
Old Dominion
Hofstra

West Coast
St. Mary's
Portland

America East
Binghamton
Vermont

Sun Belt
Western Kentucky
AR-Little Rock

Southland
Stephen F. Austin

Southern
Davidson
Charleston

Mid-American
Miami (OH)
Buffalo
Akron

Patriot
American

Big Sky
Weber St.
Portland St.

Summit
North Dakota St.
Oakland

Atlantic Sun
East Tennessee St.
Belmont

Northeast
Robert Morris
Mount St. Mary's

Ivy
Cornell
 
Let's say, on average then, there's about 40 teams in that range that should be targeted (a couple had less, a couple had more, so let's average them all up).

On average, a small but nonzero percent of good mid majors have bad years. Think SIU last year. So let's say 5 or 6 of those 40 desirable mid majors turn out not to be desirable. That leaves, say, 34

Another subset won't play you simply because of travel cost/inconvenience from a budgetary standpoint. Let's assume there's a dozen or so west coast teams or southern teams or whatever that simply won't travel. Down to 22 ideal opponents.

Now, those 22 have to be willing to schedule us as well. It's not unreasonable to think half of them wouldn't consider us just for logistical reasons (e.g., different scheduling strategy). Even more may simply have schedule conflicts such that open dates don't match up. And then there may be the Butler who wants to back out of a deal for one of various reasons.


All of a sudden, there's not many teams left to make the plan work, is there?
 
TheAsianSensation said:
Let's say, on average then, there's about 40 teams in that range that should be targeted (a couple had less, a couple had more, so let's average them all up).

On average, a small but nonzero percent of good mid majors have bad years. Think SIU last year. So let's say 5 or 6 of those 40 desirable mid majors turn out not to be desirable. That leaves, say, 34

Another subset won't play you simply because of travel cost/inconvenience from a budgetary standpoint. Let's assume there's a dozen or so west coast teams or southern teams or whatever that simply won't travel. Down to 22 ideal opponents.

Now, those 22 have to be willing to schedule us as well. It's not unreasonable to think half of them wouldn't consider us just for logistical reasons (e.g., different scheduling strategy). Even more may simply have schedule conflicts such that open dates don't match up. And then there may be the Butler who wants to back out of a deal for one of various reasons.


All of a sudden, there's not many teams left to make the plan work, is there?
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What did you say? There was something orange colored on you post that distracted me...
 
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