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Another possible round of conference changes

Vent said:
Football is king in Alabama. I would not be surprised if it is reinstated at UAB in the future.
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I think one of the problems for UAB is that even in Birmingham, they come in 3rd behind Alabama and Auburn.

Kind of like Drake basketball in Des Moines with Iowa and Iowa State. :)
 
Old Coach said:
I think one of the problems for UAB is that even in Birmingham, they come in 3rd behind Alabama and Auburn.

Kind of like Drake basketball in Des Moines with Iowa and Iowa State. :)
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You are absolutely right and they may even come in fourth, behind the University of South Alabama. USA just upgraded to the BCS level from the same level as ISU, I believe two years ago. They played in a bowl this year, that was at about the same level as Illinois' bowl game this year.
 
If UAB does reinstate the program, they need a new stadium. Badly. I've been to Legion Field unfortunately and it's absolutely awful. Plus it's not even near campus if i remember correctly.
 
BUspartan said:
If UAB does reinstate the program, they need a new stadium. Badly. I've been to Legion Field unfortunately and it's absolutely awful. Plus it's not even near campus if i remember correctly.
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I don't know how long it's been since you were there, but there have been some repairs made to it. In fact, they've played a bowl game there the last few years. It is off campus and is a municipal owned stadium. For years the Iron Bowl was played there.
 
tornado said:
http://www.myfoxal.com/story/280450...oard-of-trustees-meeting#.VNU1k0TuO7k.twitter
http://www.newslocker.com/en-us/region/birmingham/uab-football-supporters-disrupt-trustees-meeting/

..why if their press is all over this story of their board meeting - is our press completely oblivious to the important meeting going on at Bradley?
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It's a really simple answer. The media is at the UAB meeting because people are passionate about football in Alabama and the entire south. That is why there are people protesting in Birmingham and at the meeting. The board of trustees meeting at BU today is not that big of a deal to people up here, other than the people on this board and a few others. If it was that big of a deal, wouldn't we be protesting on campus or at least attending the meeting? I bet it would be a bigger deal with us there as opposed to talking about it on this message board, myself included.
 
I do remember going to protest on campus against the Board of Trustees in 1965 or 1966. The NIT had invited BU to participate in the NIT Tournament and the Board of Trustees turned down the invitation. At that time the NIT Tournament was bigger than the NCAA Tournament, and all games were played at Madison Square Gardens in New York City. The protest was held outside of the Bradley Hall building and there were a lot of people there. Students, alums and fans were all in attendance. There were a lot of people there. I remember it like it was yesterday. There was a lot more passion for Bradley basketball then.
 
Vent said:
It's a really simple answer. The media is at the UAB meeting because people are passionate about football in Alabama and the entire south. That is why there are people protesting in Birmingham and at the meeting. The board of trustees meeting at BU today is not that big of a deal to people up here, other than the people on this board and a few others. If it was that big of a deal, wouldn't we be protesting on campus or at least attending the meeting? I bet it would be a bigger deal with us there as opposed to talking about it on this message board, myself included.
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Good point!!!!!! why aren't people demonstrating at the meeting but at the same time I am sure they have heard from a lot of people about the problems at Bradley
 
Vent said:
I do remember going to protest on campus against the Board of Trustees in 1965 or 1966. The NIT had invited BU to participate in the NIT Tournament and the Board of Trustees turned down the invitation. At that time the NIT Tournament was bigger than the NCAA Tournament, and all games were played at Madison Square Gardens in New York City. The protest was held outside of the Bradley Hall building and there were a lot of people there. Students, alums and fans were all in attendance. There were a lot of people there. I remember it like it was yesterday. There was a lot more passion for Bradley basketball then.
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I think that's the season the Braves lost the last game of the season at St. Louis. We all thought Coach Orsborn was the one who turned down the bid. I do know there were a lot of upset fans, no matter who made the decision.
 
Chico said:
I think that's the season the Braves lost the last game of the season at St. Louis. We all thought Coach Orsborn was the one who turned down the bid. I do know there were a lot of upset fans, no matter who made the decision.
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It was the 1965-66 season, and Joe Stowell's first season as head coach, that the Board of Trustees turned down the invite to the N.I.T. The previous season 1964-65 , "Ozzie's" last season as head coach, the Braves lost to New York University in the first round of the N.I.T. in New York City. The previous season of 1963-64, Bradley was the N.I.T. champion as Leven Tart earned the tournament's MVP. The 63-64 season was the only season Tart and "Big" Joe Strawder played together at BU, even though they were in the same graduating class and the same freshmen class. Both went on to play in the A.B.A. and N.B.A. Unfortunately both former BU greats have passed on. After resigning as head coach, "Ozzie" was the athletic director until his retirement and replaced by Ron Ferguson.
 
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It is great to read about where some of us were in 1965 and how good your memories are. But it makes me wonder about the age of the fan base. Are we just old men living in the past. I myself have retired from the Fire Department, I'm no longer a young man. Most of us can recall being at great games in the past. Where are our replacements? Are there opinions being expressed on this board? Maybe that is the reason why were are where we are?
 
The reason the program is in the gutter has nothing to do with the age of the fans attending games. It just boils down to losing and losing badly to mediocre teams. The fan base is getting older, but there is no way they're gonna get younger fans to attend unless they win, do a better public relations job and not treat people that don't contribute or only contribute what they can, as if they are second class citizens.
 
Vent said:
The reason the program is in the gutter has nothing to do with the age of the fans attending games. It just boils down to losing and losing badly to mediocre teams. The fan base is getting older, but there is no way they're gonna get younger fans to attend unless they win, do a better public relations job and not treat people that don't contribute or only contribute what they can, as if they are second class citizens.
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It is absolutely an issue. And a big reason for the state of this program. Not THE reason, but a big reason. I was a season ticket holder at age 23, and I would regularly bring new, non-BU affiliated people to games, they would remark how weird our atmosphere was - that you were expected to stand at certain times that were unknown to everyone, and got judged if you didn't. But after a big play or when we needed a big defensive stop blue hairs would yell at you to sit down. Many BU fans act as if the young fans haven't 'earned' the right to like BU as much as them because they didn't know Joe Stowell, or remember the early day of DV, and they haven't been there since the Robertson Fieldhouse. (There are many, many exceptions to this rule, and I can tell a great story about a couple f influential posters here making BU fans that they probably never knew, but I digress).

Between the way my guests were treated, the declining product on the floor, and the increase in ticket prices, I moved my seats back, and then dropped them as I began to travel extensively for work and am pursuing my masters.

BU has great fans, and will continue to, but they have to be more accepting and welcoming of newcomers, particularly of 20-something young professionals - people who are respectful, enjoy sports, will eventually have families in the Peoria Area and, quite frankly, have cash . As I approach 30, I have largely given up trying to turn my friends in to BU fans due to all of the current issues. But if the program turns around, and if the fans come back, they'll need to bring in a new wave of Red-and-White, and if we maintain the status quo, I'm not sure where those will come from.
 
amckillip said:
It is absolutely an issue. And a big reason for the state of this program. Not THE reason, but a big reason. I was a season ticket holder at age 23, and I would regularly bring new, non-BU affiliated people to games, they would remark how weird our atmosphere was - that you were expected to stand at certain times that were unknown to everyone, and got judged if you didn't. But after a big play or when we needed a big defensive stop blue hairs would yell at you to sit down. Many BU fans act as if the young fans haven't 'earned' the right to like BU as much as them because they didn't know Joe Stowell, or remember the early day of DV, and they haven't been there since the Robertson Fieldhouse. (There are many, many exceptions to this rule, and I can tell a great story about a couple f influential posters here making BU fans that they probably never knew, but I digress).

Between the way my guests were treated, the declining product on the floor, and the increase in ticket prices, I moved my seats back, and then dropped them as I began to travel extensively for work and am pursuing my masters.

BU has great fans, and will continue to, but they have to be more accepting and welcoming of newcomers, particularly of 20-something young professionals - people who are respectful, enjoy sports, will eventually have families in the Peoria Area and, quite frankly, have cash . As I approach 30, I have largely given up trying to turn my friends in to BU fans due to all of the current issues. But if the program turns around, and if the fans come back, they'll need to bring in a new wave of Red-and-White, and if we maintain the status quo, I'm not sure where those will come from.
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I still don't think the age of the fan, has anything to do with the results on the floor. I've been going since the early sixties, still have an excellent memory, and I can't remember ever shooting a basket at a game. I've also never made a turnover. I couldn't care less if a person has seen Ozzie, Stowell, Versace or whoever coach, and I don't care if somebody stands and cheers the entire game. I used to be told to sit down by people sitting behind me. If I was standing to because the person in front of me was standing I'd continue to stand. If there was an exciting play made, I would stand to applaud the play and then sit down out of respect to those sitting around me, that may not be able to stand for an extended time. I still went to games and still do. I would not allow them to keep me from going.

BU has never marketed to a young crowd, in fact they've never had a need to market to any age group, until recently. It has nothing to do with the age of the person in the seats. It has everything to do with the product on the floor. If and when they ever start winning again, people will return to the games.
 
there are some who have sent the signal loud & clear that they care as much
about the "blue hairs" as they do the people who buy upper bowl tickets
 
They put seats there for a reason. Fans buy season tickets which includes a seat. Stand all you want when you are in the lobby. We all stand for exciting plays, but no reason to remain standing. I for one would ask you to sit back down after a certain period of time. If you want to stand and not obstruct other's view, there are plenty of sections at the Civic Center you can be accommodated.
 
but my point was that a lot of the blue hairs who have faithfully re-upped & paid their ever increasing ticket prices and maintenance for decades under the age old promise that doing so would MAINTAIN their season ticket location - only to find that suddenly now that promise is no longer true under this administration...
and that their seats can and will be taken and given to someone else with inside connections or someone who sponsors the kiss-cam or someone whose business advertises on the scoreboard - just because that's who they'd rather have in those lower bowl seats - even tho the fans come every year for multiple decades but some sponsors have a track record of coming and going like the weather...
 
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