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A Former Valley Coach Schedules A Valley Team

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SycamoreFanatic

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Yes, the game is at his house and he has a Top 20 type team coming back but former Illinois State coach Kevin Stallings has inked a game with Indiana State............................12/17 in Nashville. The Sycamore schedule, with maybe one more game to be added, was released yesterday:

http://www.gosycamores.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=15200&ATCLID=205184576

:D It's an opportunity. That's what it is.........an opportunity! That's all Valley teams ask for.
 
If anyone wants to help out a lazy internet researcher with their actual functioning memory, Has Stallings ever played ISU?
 
no -- Stallings has never "scheduled" any other MVC team since leaving Illinois State....but he has faced MVC teams at neutral sites in tourneys...

He faced SIU in the Las Vegas Classic in 2004-2005 (SIU won 67-53)....
and we all recall that Stalling's Vanderbilt faced Bradley in the South Padre Island Tourney 11/24/07 (Vandy 95 - BU 86).
Also, in Cancun 11/29/08 Vandy beat Drake 72-57.
..and he did get a matchup against Wichita State in the post-season NIT 3/21/05 (Vanderbilt 65 - WSU 63).

His last season at ISU was 1998-1999, and that year he was able to get a game for the Redbirds at Purdue (Purdue 69 - ISU 55) but ISU ended 16-15 and Stallings moved on to Vandy for the 1999-2000 season, and he been there ever since racking up a 236-148 overall record at Vandy to go with his 123-63 record while at ISU.



And although I cannot find any proof this is aguarantee game - I most certainly expect that it is or Indiana State would undoubtedly be boasting of the return game at home next year..
 
"And although I cannot find any proof this is aguarantee game - I most certainly expect that it is or Indiana State would undoubtedly be boasting of the return game at home next year.. "

Would be nice if it were a home & home but I would guess it is a buy game......but who cares.......its a BCS opponent and an rpi builder win or lose. Just how many teams in the Valley have a BCS opponent on their floor...............ever ? Only those in Iowa that are legislated to play Drake & UNI every other season and I actually can't think of any others recently ?
 
SycamoreFanatic said:
Would be nice if it were a home & home but I would guess it is a buy game......but who cares.......its a BCS opponent and an rpi builder win or lose. Just how many teams in the Valley have a BCS opponent on their floor...............ever ? Only those in Iowa that are legislated to play Drake & UNI every other season and I actually can't think of any others recently ?
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Complete and utter b.s. There is no legislation requiring Iowa and Iowa State to play Drake and UNI. I don't know where this comes from, but it's a myth that won't die.
 
SycamoreFanatic said:
Would be nice if it were a home & home but I would guess it is a buy game......but who cares.......its a BCS opponent and an rpi builder win or lose. Just how many teams in the Valley have a BCS opponent on their floor...............ever ?
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Any team can always go to somebody else's arena, pick up a check and probably a loss and go home. Sometime you have to do it (rpi or finanacial reasons). It's no great feat in scheduling.

Michigan is traveling to Peoria next year. It doesn't happen often, so it is a scheduling coup.
 
I see Ind.St. is playing in the Old Spice tour. in Orlando around Thanksgiving, wish we were going there instead of Chicago.
 
DUBulldog said:
Complete and utter b.s. There is no legislation requiring Iowa and Iowa State to play Drake and UNI. I don't know where this comes from, but it's a myth that won't die.
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it is because of one article years ago that quoted some state legislator saying they'd legislate it if it didn't happen on its own and that got mis-interpreted..

and SycamoreFanatic -- I am 100% on your side, I think it's a great opportunity -- get 'em whenever they'll play you and try to beat 'em on their own home court -- I don't have a problem with it and was happy when BU got a shot at Duke last year
 
DUBulldog said:
Complete and utter b.s. There is no legislation requiring Iowa and Iowa State to play Drake and UNI. I don't know where this comes from, but it's a myth that won't die.
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This rumor originates from a number of years ago when some of the state's schools refused to play the others. There were a couple state legislators who threatened to push for legislation to force the schools to play each year. After that, all the schools willingly agreed to play each other. It turned out to be a successful and profitable rivalry and has continued. But no such law was ever passed.

edit- sorry, didn't see that an answer had already been posted.
 
I like it when a MVC school can up their schedule regardless of the circumstance. I'd like to see the other ISU try the same thing. :-P
 
Just how many teams in the Valley have a BCS opponent on their floor...............ever ? [/QUOTE]

In addition to getting Michigan at home next year, is everyone forgetting Bradley also got Michigan State at home a few years ago. Thats two BCS schools at Carver in a matter of 5 years.
 
AD's and many coaches at mid-major (MVC) level often have a tremendous aversion to buy-games (guarantee games) - we have talked many times and even quoted Tim Jankovich ....


Here he says he would ...
"...refuse any road games against BCS schools without the promise of a return date at Redbird Arena"

http://www.bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=136302&highlight=jankovich+scheduling#post136302

Jank also said his scheduling philosophy involves filling the entire slate with bunnies and cupcakes, then..
"we’re going to leave a game open to sometime this
fall and hope someone is desperate. So it may or may not work"
http://www.bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=178605#post178605

Then this...
that he knows he can get a BCS school to play him one way or another but chooses not to --
Jank says -
"the Redbirds are trying to hold out as long as possible in terms of getting a BCS conference school on the schedule for a home-and-home series."
...so he actually does NOT want to do it even if he COULD get a home-and-home with a BCS school!! WHY???
http://www.bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=187172#post187172
 
tornado said:
it is because of one article years ago that quoted some state legislator saying they'd legislate it if it didn't happen on its own and that got mis-interpreted
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You (and Da Coach) have it mostly right....

The scenario was that Iowa and Iowa State hadn't played each other in football for about 40 years (this was in the 70's). The state legislature threatened to force them to play each other in football, but the two sides agreed to a series before that was necessary.

So that part is true. But, it never had anything to do with basketball,and Drake and UNI were never part of the proposed legislation.

Quick fact: Drake has played Iowa State more than they've played any other opponent in history (basketball). When I was a student at Drake (mid-late 70's), DU actually played 2 games each season against both Iowa and Iowa State (home and home).
 
I just hope the MVC can get better schedules vs top teams, at home too, the old fashioned way.....

Improve the MVC Team's programs and improve MVC Conference RPI.

Upgrade coaching and recruiting at MVC Schools....Take advantage of scandals/penalities at BCS schools programs..

Make wins over MVC Teams more beneficial to BCS Teams, and BCS Teams losses to MVC Teams less of a downside....
 
tornado said:
AD's and many coaches at mid-major (MVC) level often have a tremendous aversion to buy-games (guarantee games) - we have talked many times and even quoted Tim Jankovich ....


Here he says he would ...
"...refuse any road games against BCS schools without the promise of a return date at Redbird Arena"

http://www.bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=136302&highlight=jankovich+scheduling#post136302

Jank also said his scheduling philosophy involves filling the entire slate with bunnies and cupcakes, then..
"we??™re going to leave a game open to sometime this
fall and hope someone is desperate. So it may or may not work"
http://www.bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=178605#post178605

Then this...
that he knows he can get a BCS school to play him one way or another but chooses not to --
Jank says -
"the Redbirds are trying to hold out as long as possible in terms of getting a BCS conference school on the schedule for a home-and-home series."
...so he actually does NOT want to do it even if he COULD get a home-and-home with a BCS school!! WHY???
http://www.bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=187172#post187172
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Most are hoping(assuming) this will change with the new AD. It was widely known that Zenger focused 95% of his attention on football. Friedman has already made comments that he will be active in the scheduling of MBB. Hopefully its not just "corporate speak" and will fix the problem...
 
DUBulldog said:
Complete and utter b.s. There is no legislation requiring Iowa and Iowa State to play Drake and UNI. I don't know where this comes from, but it's a myth that won't die.
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DUBulldog said:
You (and Da Coach) have it mostly right....

The scenario was that Iowa and Iowa State hadn't played each other in football for about 40 years (this was in the 70's). The state legislature threatened to force them to play each other in football, but the two sides agreed to a series before that was necessary.

So that part is true. But, it never had anything to do with basketball,and Drake and UNI were never part of the proposed legislation.

Quick fact: Drake has played Iowa State more than they've played any other opponent in history (basketball). When I was a student at Drake (mid-late 70's), DU actually played 2 games each season against both Iowa and Iowa State (home and home).
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LOL! Sorry DUBulldog - I don't mean any harm... I just thought that was all funny. :lol:
 
tornado said:
BTW -- several other sources do still say this is required by the lawmakers of the State of Iowa including some DMR articles and this:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=ycn-7906620
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That "article" is from a Missouri State fan who probably picked up that urban legend on VT. As you well know, the "drive-by media" rarely fact check.

I'd be curious to see any DMR article that mentions this. Of course, the quality at the DMR these days is so horrible, that it wouldn't surprise me. I've actually seen the DMR quote somebody as saying "should of" instead of "should've".

I've challenged people on the Internet for almost 20 years now......if it's state legislated, show me the law. After all, if it's a law, it should be pretty easy to find. Nobody has yet.

But, the Internet Myth won't die. And, unfortunately, the more it gets repeated, the more "evidence" there is to back it up.
 
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