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Conference realignment

If it came down to NIU's and Toledo's hoops teams going somewhere, I believe Toledo would be welcome in several mid-major conferences (how about in the MVC replacing Missouri State?), but NIU has been so embarrassingly bad for much of the past 50 years, with barely 1000 people in attendance at home games (usually less), that they would have to do a really major overhaul. They've not been much better than Chicago State in some seasons.
 
64NIT said:
If it came down to NIU's and Toledo's hoops teams going somewhere, I believe Toledo would be welcome in several mid-major conferences (how about in the MVC replacing Missouri State?), but NIU has been so embarrassingly bad for much of the past 50 years, with barely 1000 people in attendance at home games (usually less), that they would have to do a really major overhaul. They've not been much better than Chicago State in some seasons.
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The MVC would welcome Toledo. But the fact that they play FBS football would keep them from moving from the MAC to the MVC. FBS football, even at the MAC level, is too profitable for them to give up.
 
FWIW- numbers published put Bradley's athletic revenue at under $20 million
Toledo's athletic revenue is close to $40 million but $9 million of that reportedly comes from "student fees"
assessed to their students (about $650 per student), but they get free admission to all sporting events, including football.
 
UTEP moving from CUSA to the Mountain West - https://x.com/PeteThamel/status/1841120984616624363

UTEP has not had much success in CUSA in football or basketball in recent years. In football, they have had just one winning season in the conference in the last 20 years, and they are 0-4 this season.
And in basketball, they have had just one winning CUSA season in the last 7 years, they have not made the NCAA Tournament since 2010, and have not won an NCAA game since 1992.
The CUSA has changed more than any other conference over the last couple decades. CUSA was a pretty good mid-major conference when UTEP joined in 2005. But every other school that was in CUSA in 2005 is long gone.
Here is the current CUSA for football - https://conferenceusa.com/standings.aspx?standings=1141
And for basketball - https://conferenceusa.com/standings.aspx?standings=1135
 
yoda said:
but big time help is on the way...
Their savior is coming....
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It will be interesting to watch. This conference move is driven by Missouri State's desire to upgrade from FCS football to FBS.
Missouri State football throughout their history at the "small college" and FCS level has been a bad program. Their program's overall record is below .500 (492-532-39, 0.481).
And they have been even worse in recent years.
Their record over the last 20 seasons is 76-134, an abysmal 0.362 winning percentage.
They have had only one winning season in the last 15 years.
And they only average about 11,000 attendance per game.

And, believe it or not, Bradley has produced as many NFL players in their hisory than Missouri State has, despite the fact Bradley has not fielded a football team for the last 54 years. Good luck to them at the FBS level in the watered down CUSA.

Missouri State football record over last 20 seasons-
2023- 4-7
2022- 5-6
2021- 8-4
2020- 5-5
2019- 1-10
2018- 4-7
2017- 3-8
2016- 4-7
2015- 1-10
2014- 4-8
2013- 5-7
2012- 3-8
2011- 2-9
2010- 5-6
2009- 6-5
2008- 4-7
2007- 6-5
2006- 2-9
2005- 4-7
2004- 5-6
 
Gonzaga has made their decision- they will join the new Pac-12 in two years (July, 2026) - https://www.espn.com/mens-college-b...aga-join-pac-12-basketball-school-sources-say

The Pac-12 still needs to add one more football school to reach 8 for football. 8 is the minimum number of members required to qualify as an FBS conference.
Gonzaga is the only private school in the new Pac-12 for now. This move seriously weakens the West Coast Conference. Will St. Mary's or another WCC school look to move?

New Pac-12 members-
Washington State
Oregon State
Boise State
Colorado State
Utah State
Fresno State
San Diego State
Gonzaga (for all sports but football)
 
Da Coach said:
Gonzaga has made their decision- they will join the new Pac-12 in two years (July, 2026) - https://www.espn.com/mens-college-b...aga-join-pac-12-basketball-school-sources-say

The Pac-12 still needs to add one more football school to reach 8 for football. 8 is the minimum number of members required to qualify as an FBS conference.
Gonzaga is the only private school in the new Pac-12 for now. This move seriously weakens the West Coast Conference. Will St. Mary's or another WCC school look to move?

New Pac-12 members-
Washington State
Oregon State
Boise State
Colorado State
Utah State
Fresno State
San Diego State
Gonzaga (for all sports but football)
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Is this more then a mid-major conference, especially in football. Gonzaga does give the conference credibility in basketball.
 
Nashville Cat said:
Grand Canyon joins Mountain West.
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Haha... This conference switching game is really getting crazy now. Just a few months ago, Grand Canyon committed to switching to the WCC for 2025-26 - https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...n-2025-26-but-after-that-it-gets-complicated/

They have now reneged on that move, and decided to go fo the Mountain West instead. - https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...to-join-mountain-west-conference/75992733007/

It seems like a strange move since every other school in the Mountain West plays football and GCU doesn't.
 
I'm sure the MAC would not let them stay for non-football sports. NIU would pursue the MVC, Horizon, Summit, or maybe OVC. However I'm sure their bad basketball would be a dealbreaker for the Valley.
 
Da Coach said:
Haha... This conference switching game is really getting crazy now. Just a few months ago, Grand Canyon committed to switching to the WCC for 2025-26 - https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...n-2025-26-but-after-that-it-gets-complicated/

They have now reneged on that move, and decided to go fo the Mountain West instead. - https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...to-join-mountain-west-conference/75992733007/

It seems like a strange move since every other school in the Mountain West plays football and GCU doesn't.
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