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At Large bids

Maryland has no kind of resume whatsoever. If Gary Williams gets a bid this year I give you all the license to riot about it.

The SEC is interesting - they're weak overall, but the East division is very stacked compared to the West. Florida, UK, UT, Georgia, Vandy, they're all playing each other twice, so 9-7 in the SEC East is going to stronger for the resume than 11-5 in the SEC West.

CAA will probably get 2 teams. ODU has a much better resume than people think.
 
TheAsianSensation said:
Maryland has no kind of resume whatsoever. If Gary Williams gets a bid this year I give you all the license to riot about it.
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as it should be but... apparently not according to the talking heads....
did anyone watch last night as UNC beat Maryland to send the Terps to 18-11 & 7-7 in the ACC and a 6-7th place tie in the ACC
Their RPI is 90 and their SOS is 75...but we were told that their resume is solid and that it would be a shame if they did not get a bid --

I don't know that they would but would it actually surprise anyone if they do?? Their final two games are easily winnable so they'll finish with an RPI of maybe 70 or so......
This happens every year ... some team in a BCS conference getting in despite an RPI in the 60-70's...
In the past few years Arizona, Oregon, Stanford, Minnesota, and even Seton Hall (2006) have all gotten at-large bids with RPI's over 60!
In fact - two seasons ago -- Maryland got an at-large bid despite a 7-9 record in the ACC
 
OK -- I just saw this debate --
http://content.usatoday.com/communi...s-11-ncaa-bids-from-one-conference-too-many/1

Should any team that finishes 10th or 11th in a 16-team conference expect to get an AT LARGE bid??


the borderline teams...
Marquette - 14 losses, RPI 62, loss to Seton Hall, 5-5 in last 10 games, 11-11 in last 22 games
Villanova - RPI 37 but lost last five games and 7 of the last 9..and 10 of last 15 -- knocked out in 1st game of Big East Tourney to USF - not sure how their RPI stays so high!
Cincinnati - RPI 37, SOS 76, 8-10 in last 18 games

all these guys' RPI was way worse than Barry Hinson's when they snubbed him...
 
If the conference is good enough, sure their 11th place team can go.

Villanova is the dicey one the way they finished. But the conference is just simply so good this year, head and shoulders above every other conference.

Or, to put it another way: I can think of marginal ACC or Big 10 schools that people would be more justified getting mad at than the 11th place Big East team.
 
tornado said:
OK -- I just saw this debate --
http://content.usatoday.com/communi...s-11-ncaa-bids-from-one-conference-too-many/1

Should any team that finishes 10th or 11th in a 16-team conference expect to get an AT LARGE bid??


the borderline teams...
Marquette - 14 losses, RPI 62, loss to Seton Hall, 5-5 in last 10 games, 11-11 in last 22 games
Villanova - RPI 37 but lost last five games and 7 of the last 9..and 10 of last 15 -- knocked out in 1st game of Big East Tourney to USF - not sure how their RPI stays so high!
Cincinnati - RPI 37, SOS 76, 8-10 in last 18 games

all these guys' RPI was way worse than Barry Hinson's when they snubbed him...
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I predict that one of these three does not get in. Well, in reality they probably all do get in, so let me rephrase that and say it would not be surprising if one of these teams get snubbed, thereby opening a spot up for a mid-major team some where.
 
The mid majors aren't going to benefit in any way from what has happened the past couple days. Alabama, Michigan State, Virginia Tech, Colorado, USC, and possibly Penn State have all quite possibly played their way in. It's looking bleaker by the minute for teams like Missouri State and UAB.
 
Tulsa Brave said:
The mid majors aren't going to benefit in any way from what has happened the past couple days. Alabama, Michigan State, Virginia Tech, Colorado, USC, and possibly Penn State have all quite possibly played their way in. It's looking bleaker by the minute for teams like Missouri State and UAB.
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The team no one's worrying about that people should start doing is St Mary's. They're not in the clear.
 
Yah not lookin to good for Illinois now. Michigan, Michigan State and Penn State all took care of business today. 3 of the 4 teams tied at 9-9 in the Big Ten with Illinois.

Michigan State slaughtered #9 Purdue and Penn State takes out #13 Wisconsin in 1 of the worst combined shooting performances i've seen in quite some time.

For an outsider looking in, I would say either Purdue or Wisconsin slacked off so that the Big Ten could get another team in the tourney since Michigan had beat Illinois earlier in the day. Lets see if Ohio State slacks off tomorrow, it will get interesting then.

On a side note, the 9th seed 20-12 (7-9) Dayton takes out #1 seed 24-6 (15-1) Xavier by 1 point after knocking down 2 free throws with 5 seconds left.

Also in the Atlantic 10, the 12th seed 10-21 (4-12) St. Josephs knocked off 4th seed 18-11 (10-6) Duquesne. St. Josephs will play Dayton and 1 of those teams will have the chance to pull off the upset over for sure big dance teams of #2 seed Temple or #3 seed Richmond. Could throw a real whack in things if they do manage the championship upset, especially if Richmond gets to the champ game.

Jason
 
It's looking a lot worse for Missouri State after a couple upsets yesterday bumped a couple likely NCAA teams into the at-large category, and moved a couple teams that were out of the picture back onto the bubble.

Joe Lunardi's latest bracketology as of Saturday morning-
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebask...697/joe-lunardis-latest-bracketology-update-7

Missouri State was one of his "First Four Out" as of Friday.
This link was still showing the March 11 bracket projections-
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

but now as of this morning (March 12) Lunardi has moved Memphis up into the "First Four Out", and bumped Missouri State down into the "Next Out".
It is possible they could fall even farther if any more upsets occur today and tomorrow.
 
If there was such a thing as an 'eye test', Penn St and Wisconsin should be relegated to the CBI after last night's performance. Just awful.
 
jasonpeoria911 said:
Yah not lookin to good for Illinois now. Michigan, Michigan State and Penn State all took care of business today. 3 of the 4 teams tied at 9-9 in the Big Ten with Illinois.

Michigan State slaughtered #9 Purdue and Penn State takes out #13 Wisconsin in 1 of the worst combined shooting performances i've seen in quite some time.

For an outsider looking in, I would say either Purdue or Wisconsin slacked off so that the Big Ten could get another team in the tourney since Michigan had beat Illinois earlier in the day. Lets see if Ohio State slacks off tomorrow, it will get interesting then.

On a side note, the 9th seed 20-12 (7-9) Dayton takes out #1 seed 24-6 (15-1) Xavier by 1 point after knocking down 2 free throws with 5 seconds left.

Also in the Atlantic 10, the 12th seed 10-21 (4-12) St. Josephs knocked off 4th seed 18-11 (10-6) Duquesne. St. Josephs will play Dayton and 1 of those teams will have the chance to pull off the upset over for sure big dance teams of #2 seed Temple or #3 seed Richmond. Could throw a real whack in things if they do manage the championship upset, especially if Richmond gets to the champ game.

Jason
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I was thinking the same thing in that the big 10 teams get more money when more teams get into the tour; I like Illinois but if they were not a bcs team they would be left out because of their last 15 games, their earlier big wins would be nullified due to their poor finish.
 
Illinois has wins over UNC, Gonzaga, Oakland, Wisconsin, Michigan, Penn St, and Michigan St. I don't think they're even on the bubble, but then again I am not on the committee.
 
BradleyBrave said:
If there was such a thing as an 'eye test', Penn St and Wisconsin should be relegated to the CBI after last night's performance. Just awful.
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I agree. That game was just horrendous! And the pundits rag on the Valley for our defensive minded teams! As far as I can remember, the Valley NEVER has pulled such an awful performance like this, at least not in the last 30 years or so.

I saw some "highlights" of this game yesterday. For some reason the highlights were in black and white with a grainy picture!
 
BradleyBrave said:
If there was such a thing as an 'eye test', Penn St and Wisconsin should be relegated to the CBI after last night's performance. Just awful.
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this game sent shivers down my spine --
it was so ugly I really couldn't watch more than a few minutes at a time --
..worse than watching a show that details all the things the Kardashians are doing on a Thursday afternoon
 
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