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Chasson Randle to Stanford

Chasson Randle to Stanford

A coupe of observations regarding Stanford vs Illinois---

First, the weather in the Bay area November thru March is just a little better than Champaign.

Secondly, The bay area is a lot more interesting and exciting to live in or go to school in than Champaign.

California girls vs Illinois farm girls?

Illinois is a great school academically but Stanford is awesome.
 
I am not getting into the which school is better academically or which has nicer weather.

I said in the beginning.........if a player is serious about playing college basketball and wants to be on a good team with good players in a good conference with the sky as the limit........you don't choose Stanford.

If you want to be the star on a bad team in a bad conference......go ahead. That is my point.
 
Future Walk-On said:
I said in the beginning.........if a player is serious about playing college basketball and wants to be on a good team with good players in a good conference with the sky as the limit........you don't choose Stanford.

If you want to be the star on a bad team in a bad conference......go ahead. That is my point.
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Given the fact that 1.3% of college basketball players go pro, I'd take Stanford over Illinois in a heartbeat given a free ride. No question. If you are interviewing two people with absolutely equal credentials, but one has a Stanford diploma and the other has an Illinois diploma, who do you take? And if Stanford is a so-called "bad team in a bad conference", then can we assume that the Missouri Valley is also a "bad conference", since they seem to be fairly comparable these days?
 
Future Walk-On said:
I am not getting into the which school is better academically or which has nicer weather.

I said in the beginning.........if a player is serious about playing college basketball and wants to be on a good team with good players in a good conference with the sky as the limit........you don't choose Stanford.

If you want to be the star on a bad team in a bad conference......go ahead. That is my point.
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Haha, then why would a player ever choose Illinois for football? Why would a player EVER choose BU over a BCS school? In the last five years U of I less NCAA games than BU... Not to mention Stanford has won more as well, they're just a couple years removed from a Sweet 16 appearance and they have big-time football. U of I is not nearly as mighty as you make them seem.
 
Here in Illinois, the U of I is very much regarded as an Ivy League-like school. It's one of those places where many dream of going, and even the intelligent kids that I knew back in HS were on pins and needles to wait if they got into UIUC.

But I went to the Princeton Review site, and interestingly enough both BU and UIUC have the same admissions rate, around 64%.

I can't understand why people are trying to make UIUC vs. Stanford a competition. Illinois can't compete with proximity to ocean or mountains, c'mon. You're not going to die in Champaign-Urbana. :roll:
 
bugregshu said:
Given the fact that 1.3% of college basketball players go pro, I'd take Stanford over Illinois in a heartbeat given a free ride. No question. If you are interviewing two people with absolutely equal credentials, but one has a Stanford diploma and the other has an Illinois diploma, who do you take? And if Stanford is a so-called "bad team in a bad conference", then can we assume that the Missouri Valley is also a "bad conference", since they seem to be fairly comparable these days?
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Once again I am talking about basketball. Most kids as freshman still have the NBA dream......if this kid doesn't....that is fine. I AM NOT arguing schools academically...if you want to go to the NCAA's and possibly deep into the tournament....and get tons of exposure....for a possible chance to be in the league....you do not choose Stanford over Illinois. I am not saying Illinois is the biggest program...but if you are down to those two....it is pretty obvious....if you want to focus on school then no crap, Stanford.

So Randle obviously isn't interested in going deep in the tourney, playing 20 games on national television, etc....

Illinois groomed the best PG in the NBA.

I can't assume that Illinois is going to do all this.....but looking at the way Illinois' program is going on paper...odds are pretty good.

amckillip said:
Haha, then why would a player ever choose Illinois for football? Why would a player EVER choose BU over a BCS school? In the last five years U of I less NCAA games than BU... Not to mention Stanford has won more as well, they're just a couple years removed from a Sweet 16 appearance and they have big-time football. U of I is not nearly as mighty as you make them seem.
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1. Have you seen how successful former Illinois players are in the NFL....?

2. How many kids have chosen BU over a big time BCS school? Name them.

How many kids have come to BU that have a GREAT chance of going to the NBA?

U of I is hands down the best basketball option at this time. Over Stanford.
 
wizard said:
A coupe of observations regarding Stanford vs Illinois---...Illinois is a great school academically but Stanford is awesome.
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wiz -- to each his own -- and I never said a thing negative about Stanford, but here's what was said...


Name another school with the academic excellence offered by Stanford...the number of Olympians....... the Nobel prize winners, Supreme Court Justices...
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So I did, I named another school with similar academic excellence, and even MORE Nobel Prize Winners...
that's all....I personally believe that Stanford gets hyped over and above Illinois for reasons that are more subjective than objective, but I doubt all employers who are looking at two equal candidates are gonna say -- well but this one is from Stanford so he gets the nod..

More computer technology and even the thing you're looking at (the LED technology) are all inventions and development from U of I. In many respoects the highjer rankings Stanford gets is due to how much more exclusive they are on acceptance standards..whereas, Illinois tries to accomodate more students...
 
Future Walk-On said:
if you want to go to the NCAA's and possibly deep into the tournament....and get tons of exposure....for a possible chance to be in the league....you do not choose Stanford over Illinois.
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Don't you think it's more about how good the individual is? If he has NBA skills, he will be in the NBA, regardless of what school he goes to. A FREE Stanford education is a bonus.

"It's too bad those Lopez twins chose Stanford... now they'll NEVER be in the NBA!"


Future Walk-On said:
Wake Forest groomed the best PG in the NBA.
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Fixed... and I think Deron Williams being good has less to do with Illinois and more to do with him just being good...
 
Future Walk-On said:
I can't assume that Illinois is going to do all this.....but looking at the way Illinois' program is going on paper...odds are pretty good.
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BU has looked to be going the right way on paper for about 6 years. Doesn't make it so. I'm not saying U of I isn't better, but it's not nearly as lobsided as you make it. Just a short while ago Bruce was on the hot seat. And he hasn't produced anything since. Since the '05 run U of I has been middle of the pack Big Ten at best. MSU, WU, OSU, PU etc. have all been the better Big Ten teams. And I've grown up a U of I fan, but I have not been impressed by Bruce Webber since he's had his own players, at all.
 
tornado said:
So I did, I named another school with similar academic excellence, and even MORE Nobel Prize Winners...
that's all....I personally believe that Stanford gets hyped over and above Illinois for reasons that are more subjective than objective, but I doubt all employers who are looking at two equal candidates are gonna say -- well but this one is from Stanford so he gets the nod..
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I completely disagree and provided facts to support it. Mid-career, Stanford grads make OVER 50% more! How can you argue that they are not more desirable? You give me a U of I MBA on a resume or a Stanford all things equal, I'm taking the Stanford candidate, and its not even close.
 
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bugregshu said:
Don't you think it's more about how good the individual is? If he has NBA skills, he will be in the NBA, regardless of what school he goes to. A FREE Stanford education is a bonus.

"It's too bad those Lopez twins chose Stanford... now they'll NEVER be in the NBA!"




Fixed... and I think Deron Williams being good has less to do with Illinois and more to do with him just being good...
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Well yeah about the NBA if they are good they are good. I guess I am thinking about his quote saying he wanted to play on a winning team and go to the tournament. On paper it is hands down Illinois that will be the stud team the next 4 years. Although it could very well end up being Stanford.

Illinois has all the national TV exposure, the big time conference, the better competition, and the better players to play with....that is all.

He will be a great player, on a mediocre team, with limited hype.
 
amckillip said:
I completely disagree and provided facts to support it. Mid-career, Stanford grads make OVER 50% more! How can you argue that they are not more desirable? You give me a U of I MBA on a resume or a Stanford all things equal, and its not even close.
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Agreed. :)

In addition, I'm sure the fact that Dawkins is a former NBA PG played just as big of a role as the Stanford name. If I were a PG I'd certainly want to learn from the likes of a former NBA PG. ;)
 
Braves4Life said:
Agreed. :)

In addition, I'm sure the fact that Dawkins is a former NBA PG played just as big of a role as the Stanford name. If I were a PG I'd certainly want to learn from the likes of a former NBA PG. ;)
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I knew someone would get me on this one! ...he actually said in his interview dawkins was a plus plus
 
Future Walk-On said:
I knew someone would get me on this one! ...he actually said in his interview dawkins was a plus plus
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Yep! I'm more than just a pretty face. ;) :lol:

"I chose Stanford because the program is growing, and it's a great fit both academically and athletically," said Randle, who is an honors student carrying a 4.0 GPA. "I wanted the chance to learn the point guard position from one of the greats in Coach Dawkins [Duke's second all-time leading scorer]."
 
Da Coach said:
Rumor now is that Bruce Weber was confident enough he'd land Randle that he doesn't have a legitimate backup. Watch for him to turn his attention to Ryan Boatright, who just decommitted from West Virginia.
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I know its only been a day, but has there been any report that this is the case? Boat was a great player this year, and is sure to be a ton as a senior. He liked Huggins, but when another PG verballed he dropped. He wants to be the only PG in his class where he lands. Providence and UConn were said to be who he was most interested in now, along with UNLV and Oklahoma.

http://beaconnews.suntimes.com/spor...9/boatright-choice-tanesha-virginia-west.html
 
Fetz86 said:
I know its only been a day, but has there been any report that this is the case? Boat was a great player this year, and is sure to be a ton as a senior. He liked Huggins, but when another PG verballed he dropped. He wants to be the only PG in his class where he lands. Providence and UConn were said to be who he was most interested in now, along with UNLV and Oklahoma.

http://beaconnews.suntimes.com/spor...9/boatright-choice-tanesha-virginia-west.html
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Only rumors......

Devin Langford from Alabama is visiting Friday through Sunday and they think the staff will offer and he will commit. He can play the point.

Tracy Abrams who is set as the PG coming in doesn't really play point apparently though....dunno Langford is 6" 7' so it would be pretty cool to have him at the point.
 
FWO you need to get out of Illinois! I'm not saying Illinois is a bad school but a kid choosing Stanford over them is to me is not a shock at all. Have you ever been to Stanford and checked out Silicon Valley and the bay area? If you did perhaps you would agree. I've traveled around and I can say the the SF Bay area is 2nd to none. This is not my original home town. The only thing that sucks is the cost of living but there is a reason it costs so much. Also Stanford has the 3rd largest endowment with notable young alumnus from Google. Sorry Illinois can't compare.
 
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