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Great Article on Coach Stowell's double firing from BU

I thought KK was good for Bradley. I was sorry to see him go, but I supported the President. I was not inconsistent like some seem to be now.
Were you one of the posters here who celebrated that change, but who now are critical of the Stowell move? That is the inconsistency here.

How is the fact that you were against the KK firing, but for the Joe Stowell firing consistent, but someone who was for the KK firing (a person who has far more influence BTW) and against the Stowell firing inconsistent?????? Talk about a double standard. Jeeze. The only way the two were related is that it's pretty clear they were casualties of Pres. Glasser's Micromanagement.
 
Do you think that its the fans, alumni, season ticket holders, media, etc that who pride itself on history and tradition or the new regiem? IMO this new leadership is focused on getting rid of those who made our past history and helped create our tradition. They have ran off or discarded alot of good people who were successful at what they did for Bradley. They don't seem to care for history/tradition.

Like I said, they have this right but it can still be the wrong decision. And when it is wrong you are going to hear about it from the people who care so much.

Hey, I'm on you're side. I was saying the new leadership clearly has far less respect for tradition than do fans and alum. If you only look at what we've been lately, that an MVC also-ran, plain and simple, but I think we all know we're more than that. That is why I think the administration is making a mistake in trying to distance itself from that.
 
I thought KK was good for Bradley. I was sorry to see him go, but I supported the President. I was not inconsistent like some seem to be now.
Were you one of the posters here who celebrated that change, but who now are critical of the Stowell move? That is the inconsistency here.

How is the fact that you were against the KK firing, but for the Joe Stowell firing consistent, but someone who was for the KK firing (a person who has far more influence BTW) and against the Stowell firing inconsistent?????? Talk about a double standard. Jeeze. The only way the two were related is that it's pretty clear they were casualties of Pres. Glasser's Micromanagement.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. That being said, I was against the KK firing, against playing a regular season game at the new facilities, against the handling of the Stowell situation, and against Glasser's micromanagement. Now that's consistency! :idea: ;-):lol:
 
I thought KK was good for Bradley. I was sorry to see him go, but I supported the President. I was not inconsistent like some seem to be now.
Were you one of the posters here who celebrated that change, but who now are critical of the Stowell move? That is the inconsistency here.

Nope. I did not celebrate the KK situation. I disagreed with that move. I also disagree with the Stowell move.
 
Hey, I'm on you're side. I was saying the new leadership clearly has far less respect for tradition than do fans and alum. If you only look at what we've been lately, that an MVC also-ran, plain and simple, but I think we all know we're more than that. That is why I think the administration is making a mistake in trying to distance itself from that.

I thought we agreed but I could not tell if you thought our current leaders respected and valued our history/tradition as much as fans, ticket holders, alumni. I also think their is an obvious difference of opinion.
 
I thought we agreed but I could not tell if you thought our current leaders respected and valued our history/tradition as much as fans, ticket holders, alumni. I think their is an obvious difference of opinion.

If you've ever noticed Joanne Glasser always refers to "helping Bradley become a university of national distinction." That is her vision for Bradley University.

With that vision in mind I think it is obvious that she has a clear mission to build and lead BU with minimal regard to certain traditions and the status quo. If she can help to increase the value of a Bradley diploma while putting quality, winning products on the athletic field then I have more tolerance for seeing some things done that I may disagree with. In fact, I think I have heard where the vision is to ultimately double BU's enrollment.

That said, I still disagree with dropping Coach Stowell so unceremoniously from the HOF Committee. I think the Coach earned and deserved better than that.
 
nowadays there are privacy laws, and also a desire to say as little as possible since the local media plays up anything whether it's true or not..

(case in point...note the comment "It is not much of a secret, for example, that Stowell and head coach Jim Les have had no relationship to speak of.." then the immediate concession that such a fact had nothing to do with this!
Then the writer speculates on a "conspiracy theory" and again immediately concedes that there isn't one and the two issues are unrelated)


Here are some facts that it seems everyone is agreeing with...
-Joe Stowell has been employed and revered at BU and by BU for well over 50 years, but that he is almost 84, doesn't get around well, and cannot travel to road games. 99.8% of all people are retired or end their active employment by age 84, and there are reasons...but in this case, many reasons are not being stated.
-Joe Stowell was not fired by Bradley from his broadcasting gig. This was stated clearly to be the decision of WMBD alone.
-Despite the swipe at JL in the paper, the writer clearly acknowledges that BU and JL had nothing to do with the broadcasting decision, plus that decision was made by WMBD and was unrelated to the issue with the committee.

Agreed wholeheartedly about the privacy laws and how the news media tends to blow things way out of proportion. Believe me, that's one of my huge pet peeves too! :D

As I replied to Da Coach last night though, the info he stated regarding this whole situation was more than enough for me, as are the facts you stated above tornado. And I do admit that I did gloss over the part where WMBD was the one who let Coach Stowell go, so that was "my bad". :) The paper did indeed make that part clear, though they did not need to try to bring Les into this situation where he had really nothing to do with anything regarding this. However, I do appreciate KW stating that Les had nothing to do with the actual decisions regarding Stowell, and also him explaining the HOF committee term limit laws.

So really that is all I need to know, and that is all I expect of the media. The rest as you said tornado should stay private unless any one of the parties involved decides to speak to the media.
 
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. That being said, I was against the KK firing, against playing a regular season game at the new facilities, against the handling of the Stowell situation, and against Glasser's micromanagement. Now that's consistency! :idea: ;-):lol:

You OK Benni:-o We agree on all the above:D Is there a chance we have the same Mama:? What do you look like:?: Are you about 5'11, brown eyes, 190 lbs, white on top and have bowled legs:-P If not, it really does not mean we are not bothers, just that we may have different Daddy's8) JK, Man, JK :lol:
 
Question....did ANYONE on here that was asking for change in the BU athletic dept. ever consider Coach Stowell as part of that change you wanted ?

I THINK I recall OOB saying...."go BIG and fire Stowell from the radio team and kick him off the HOF committee"....of something to that effect.
 
Question....did ANYONE on here that was asking for change in the BU athletic dept. ever consider Coach Stowell as part of that change you wanted ?

I THINK I recall OOB saying...."go BIG and fire Stowell from the radio team and kick him off the HOF committee"....of something to that effect.


Come On Man:-P Who would listen to this old ASS:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
If you've ever noticed Joanne Glasser always refers to "helping Bradley become a university of national distinction." That is her vision for Bradley University.

With that vision in mind I think it is obvious that she has a clear mission to build and lead BU with minimal regard to certain traditions and the status quo. If she can help to increase the value of a Bradley diploma while putting quality, winning products on the athletic field then I have more tolerance for seeing some things done that I may disagree with. In fact, I think I have heard where the vision is to ultimately double BU's enrollment.

That said, I still disagree with dropping Coach Stowell so unceremoniously from the HOF Committee. I think the Coach earned and deserved better than that.

I have heard the vision of doubling BU's enrollment as well, and I think it's crazy. Maybe we could support 7,000 at most, but we literally couldn't house 10,000 students on campus and in the surrounding area. Rent would be crazy high, and it would drive students to want into the dorms that at 5000 undergrads are filled to capacity... Not to mention at 10,000 you start to feel much more like a large state school than the family BU is currently.
 
And that my friend is just what KW said he researched, found no bases of the fact and wrote in such a way to el imitate any rumors:!: Although I find it hard to believe that JL has made no comment about the issues of Coach Stowell:? (Even a thank you for all you done and wise you well) Maybe theres a gag order on JL or anyone in the Admin about coach:o

Maybe there is something to what BU fan 9 posted:
All I'm going to say is if you talk bad about Glasser you lose your job.
Today 09:36 AM

There's plenty of time for Les to comment about this. It may happen as early as the preseason, but then again, that's up to him if he even wants to comment on this.
 
There's plenty of time for Les to comment about this. It may happen as early as the preseason, but then again, that's up to him if he even wants to comment on this.

If I'm him, especially with his opinions, I don't touch this with a 20 foot pole. Nothing good can come of it. If he agrees, he's vilified by fans, if he disagrees, he will encounter the wrath of glass.
 
There's plenty of time for Les to comment about this. It may happen as early as the preseason, but then again, that's up to him if he even wants to comment on this.
You maybe right:) But in most similar situations of this kind of nature, the norm is for people closely affiliated to them, are quit to respone:!: Right:?:
I am just saying:?
 
I can't blame WMBD for letting Joe go as an announcer, but I think BU could make an exception and keep him on the HOF committee. Who else would know as much as Joe about Bradley's sports history?
 
I have heard the vision of doubling BU's enrollment as well, and I think it's crazy. Maybe we could support 7,000 at most, but we literally couldn't house 10,000 students on campus and in the surrounding area. Rent would be crazy high, and it would drive students to want into the dorms that at 5000 undergrads are filled to capacity... Not to mention at 10,000 you start to feel much more like a large state school than the family BU is currently.

With regards to housing, FWIW, the school paper noted that if BU has another large freshman class next year, sophomores have the chance to move to Main Street Commons off-campus. The school kicked in about 10% of the project's cost, but it came from its endowment.

The problem with the expanding BU to 10k students is simply the fact the campus is hemmed in. It's going to take some creative planning (and more money) to pack 10k students on an 85 acre (maybe more with the new quad) campus. One area that I think the school really is going to target is Peoria-area kids, on the assumption they will commute.
 
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