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CollegeHoops.net Top 144 countdown -- 2008-09

mportsch I like your rational but I believe our defensive philosophy will be a bit different than last year. We will be pressing a bit more if not a lot more and I expect us to get more turnovers and easy baskets. We have the personel this year to press and press some more sort of like SIU but with some real shooters on the O. Everybodies 3 pt shooting will go down this year due to the line change so we will need to make up for it by getting easier baskets.
 
You make some good points, SFPete. Forcing more turnovers would definitely be another way to improve the defense, and Bradley does seem to have the personnel to do it. Even if you go with Wilson at PF, you've got a shotblocker in Collins that can help out if guys get beat from pressuring too close. I still believe that defensive rebounding is an area that must improve, but forcing more turnovers is always a great thing, as it can also lead to easy offense.
 
The first sentence reads like this: "There is simply way too much talent and athleticism on this team for Wichita State to stay towards the bottom on the conference."

Yet he has them picked at #7 in our conference. Does anyone else think that this is on the bottom of the conference. Granted it might not be the "basement" but if BU finished 7th out of a 10 team conference I would consider that the bottom.

I have a feeling this is where this guy is heading...(i know the last 3 won't be listed)
cu
du
siu
isu
bu
i.st.
w.st.
uni
mo.st.
ue
which i think DU is going to be a vastly overrated team purely because of last year, but you never know...it could happen
 
tornado said:
wow, that's great to see some significant respect for the Valley!!
So they are ranking 7 Valley teams in the top 134 spots!!
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Last year T they had this:

in 8th place- and ranked #124 Indiana State
in 7th place- and ranked #109 ISU
in 6th place- and ranked #93 Missouri State
in 5th place- and ranked #76 UNI
in 4th place- and ranked #64 Wichita State
in 3rd place- and ranked #60 Creighton
 
tornado said:
BG-10 you have the Valley kind of as I think he'll line them up.
but I think WSU will be near the bottom of the Valley, and the have absolutely NO experienced players remaining.
It is pretty rare for a bunch of newcomers to carry a team.





wow, that's great to see some significant respect for the Valley!!
So they are ranking 7 Valley teams in the top 134 spots!!


The Shockers will be very inexperienced this season, and LOSE their top four scorers from an 11-20 team,
and possibly will still be well under .500.
Last season 8 different Valley teams ended with RPI's better than 134
(Drake 10, ISU 33, Creighton 46, SIU 62, BU 105, Missouri State 123, Indiana State 128, UNI 131)

As far as Mt. St. Mary's at #135....I am surprised.
They play in a terrible conference, they were 18-14 last year, they lose their top scorer, and
they went 7-7 against a non-conference schedule that was weak and earned them a 205 RPI.
Their returing shooters were only 34% from 3-pt range, and that's going to go down with the longer 3-pt line.
Maybe there are the intangibles???




Recap...
134 Wichita State
135 Mt. St. Mary's
136 Oakland
137 Houston
138 UCSB
139 Winthrop
140 Fairfield
141 Charleston
142 St. John's
143 Alabama A&M
144 Colorado
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Well WSU had a pretty darn young team the sweet 16 year. Lots of Sophmores and they lost 4 starters from the previous year. Now I'm not even CLOSE to predicting that kind of a year for this team as this is perhaps even younger than the team I just spoke of. But look at it this way too, WSU was only about 7 baskets from being a winning team last year and being in middle of the pack in the Valley. There really wasn't much competition in the practices as injuries had them down to playing with about 8 scholarship players total. This year alot of teams lost alot of experience so it puts about 6 teams in the same boat in the Valley. I'm not expecting the Shox to be in the top 3 at all this year, but Marshall is still a darn good coach and has the athleticism he needs to run his system. He picked up a couple VERY fine juco point guards, has a tremendous athlete in transfer AJ Hawkins (one of the better players in the A-10 by his sophmore year) and with Ramon Clemente leading the big men I could see this team as a middle of pack team this year. Plus you have an Aaron Ellis that played alot and kinda of broke out of his shell to show what he CAN do (even if for only 1 game) by scoring 19pts and pulling 9 rebounds in the Shox final game. He's had a year of D1 ball and a summer to prepare for next year.

Anyway, just another point of view and my 2 cents. I think the Valley is about as much of a toss up again this year as it was last year. It wouldn't surprise me to see another school that no one is considering to come up and fight for a top spot. GOTTA LOVE THE VALLEY!!!
 
Mt. St. Mary's was young last year, and gained a lot of confidence. I don't know how good they'll be this year, as they lose only one player, but also their best player. They also won 10 road games last year, which is quite something for a team from the NEC.
 
Mt. St. Scare-Me
(nothing aimed at you Squirrel.... I had a friend say that to me years ago when I was pointing them out one season and I thought it was a funny name)

LOL!
 
#130 is a team we walloped on their home court:lol: I don't think I've ever had the chance to use this in a sentence T'....walloped made me laugh thats all!
 
I vote for the use of the word "shellacked' in the next common opponent that comes up in a sentence. "drubbed" is also another good word! Or maybe "pillaged"
 
I'll settle for any kind of win too. But I do enjoy the times when we can say things like "smoked", "whaled on", "crushed", or maybe even "Holy-Cowed" them.

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