What will make attendance better?

[BUBraves2006]

A lot of great thoughts ...

You know what gets college kids excited? Beer, pizza and a party.

There were always well publicized events at bars near the arena where students can go before the game for a good deal on food/drink. Do these happen anymore?

They also ran the Peoria Charter bus on loop for like 90 minutes before the game from the student center when I was there. Between that and super cheap season tickets, it was really simple to get even people who weren't basketball fans there. I assume this doesn't happen either.

[molar50]

I was listening to the Score 670 am this morning and the discussion was about students attending basketball games. They stated that when Porter Mosher was the coach at Loyola, he went to the dorms and asked students to attend and they showed up. I know that their stadium is very small and on campus, but I believe the administration should be marketing to the students.

[ollienanyes]

Remember that there is quite a bit of tension and angst on campus this year. Also, incoming class sizes are smaller, and online programs being introduced. So I do not expect student attendance to ever come close to what it once was.

[LittleBrave]

The music is WAY TOO LOUD!! My 10-yr-old son attended his 1st BU game and was covering his ears for the player intros and when they were booming the music. He was asking why I wasn't covering mine, and I told him, "Dude - I grew up in the 80s. The music got LOUD around that time, so I grew used to it I guess."

[Da Coach]

I was listening to the Score 670 am this morning and the discussion was about students attending basketball games. They stated that when Porter Mosher was the coach at Loyola, he went to the dorms and asked students to attend and they showed up. I know that their stadium is very small and on campus, but I believe the administration should be marketing to the students.

Here are the stats for attendance in the first season that Loyola joined the MVC - http://www.mvc.org/mbb/stats/2013-14/team.pdf

Loyola was the lowest attendance of any MVC school, 1,928 per game, almost 2 thousand fewer than the next lowest team. Moser must not have been working back then to raise attendance. If he was, he wasn't very successful. But he did some good things for Loyola, and their Final 4 season in 2017-18, there was a little surge in student and overall attendance. But overall attendance that year remained the lowest in the league (2017-18 attendance- 2,405), even lower than Valparaiso! - http://www.mvc.org/mbb/stats/2017-18/team.pdf

Because of the success, the national attention they got from their Final Four year, and from Sister Jean, they did get their attendance up to over 3,000 for two of Porter Moser's final 3 seasons there, and much of that was a rise in student attendance. But for a school that is almost 4-times larger than Bradley, and located in the 3rd most populous city in the country, it's still mystery why they can't draw better and remained near the bottom of the MVC.
Now that they are in the A-10, their attendance has dropped back quite a bit. This year, despite being tied for the A-10 conference lead, they are only averaging 2,787 per game. Time for Porter to get back into the dorms.

And for the record, every year he was here, Jim Les did visit fraternities, sororities, and dorms to try to get more students to attend. Even Joanne Glasser did some of that for a while. And the current administration has tried a lot of things, but nothing seems to work.

[tomahawk chop]

The music is WAY TOO LOUD!! My 10-yr-old son attended his 1st BU game and was covering his ears for the player intros and when they were booming the music. He was asking why I wasn't covering mine, and I told him, "Dude - I grew up in the 80s. The music got LOUD around that time, so I grew used to it I guess."

It is too loud and people complained so they turned it down some for a few games but now the volume is way up again. I get you want the players and fans excited but they do not have to go overboard.

[ollienanyes]

Illinois St. game: did you notice the groups in attendance? They are doing what the Peoria Chiefs do. I think that you need to attract lots of casuals i order to get larger crowds.

[yoda]

Here are the stats for attendance in the first season that Loyola joined the MVC - http://www.mvc.org/mbb/stats/2013-14/team.pdf

Loyola was the lowest attendance of any MVC school, 1,928 per game, almost 2 thousand fewer than the next lowest team. Moser must not have been working back then to raise attendance. If he was, he wasn't very successful. But he did some good things for Loyola, and their Final 4 season in 2017-18, there was a little surge in student and overall attendance. But overall attendance that year remained the lowest in the league (2017-18 attendance- 2,405), even lower than Valparaiso! - http://www.mvc.org/mbb/stats/2017-18/team.pdf

Because of the success, the national attention they got from their Final Four year, and from Sister Jean, they did get their attendance up to over 3,000 for two of Porter Moser's final 3 seasons there, and much of that was a rise in student attendance. But for a school that is almost 4-times larger than Bradley, and located in the 3rd most populous city in the country, it's still mystery why they can't draw better and remained near the bottom of the MVC.
Now that they are in the A-10, their attendance has dropped back quite a bit. This year, despite being tied for the A-10 conference lead, they are only averaging 2,787 per game. Time for Porter to get back into the dorms.

And for the record, every year he was here, Jim Les did visit fraternities, sororities, and dorms to try to get more students to attend. Even Joanne Glasser did some of that for a while. And the current administration has tried a lot of things, but nothing seems to work.

that's a bit misleading as it apparently counts online students, many of whom don't live anywhere near campus.
Their Chicago campus has 8,000 in-class students but only 3,000 of those are undergrads. LINK
On top of that, 69% of their undergrad students are female, perhaps a bit less likely to go to basketball games.

Of those 3,000, the freshman and sophomores are generally required to live on campus but the rest, mostly those
taking graduate courses, are likely scattered around Chicago. So I think they do pretty well given the actual number
of students on campus, but they don't draw very well at all from the community. You'd think there'd be more interest
from the 60,000 Loyola alumni who live in and around Chicago.

[Da Coach]

that's a bit misleading as it apparently counts online students, many of whom don't live anywhere near campus.
Their Chicago campus has 8,000 in-class students but only 3,000 of those are undergrads. LINK

You are interpreting those numbers all wrong. My numbers were the correct ones.
First, Loyola may offer online classwork options, like most colleges now do, but they do not appear to have a full-time remote curriculum available as you seem to suggest, meaning that even those who might do work online, still live either on campus or nearby in the Chicago area and attend classes on campus.

And this page, directly from the Loyola website, has their current accurate enrollment statistics.
It shows their precise enrollment numbers for 2023 compared with 2022 - https://www.luc.edu/media/lucedu/oie/By%20School.pdf

Note the last line on the first page, total enrollment this year is 17,397, for 2022 it was 16,899, and those numbers have been pretty consistent over the recent years.
At the top of the first page, it shows that 10,867 are full-time undergraduates and over 11,200 total undergrads(not 3,000 as you claim). In addition, per that link, there are also part-time students, associate degree students, and post-graduate students. All of which still count as students, attend classes, live nearby, and are part of the enrollment numbers. And they have the option to attend basketball games if they felt like supporting their team.

Your misinterpreted link to the "over 8,000 students", are only the students who attend classes at the Lake Shore campus (they also have campuses downtown and other locations). They have thousands of post-graduate students who attend schools of Law, Medicine, Nursing, Business and others and are not at that Lake Shore campus, but are located nearby in the Chicago area. But those thousands of students still count as enrolled Loyola students, just as Bradley's post-graduate students do. And they are all just a few miles from the Gentile Center and could attend basketball games if they were interested.
And finally, the 3,000 figure you claimed as the number of undergraduates, is completely misinterpreted and is way off. There are 10,867 full-time undergraduates as noted above (and over 11,200 total undergrads). The 3,000 figure refers only to those students (mainly freshmen) who reside full-time in campus housing at the Lake Shore campus.