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  • #31
    Originally posted by Mikovio View Post
    Instead of focusing on mortality, how about thinking about hospitalizations? It's the live people who need active care.

    Between 70 and 150 million people can be expected to get COVID 19 in the US after the virus has run its course. If 15% of those need hospitalization (the rate in China), that means 10.5 million people *or more* will need hospitalization. There are not quite 1 million hospital beds in the US.

    This is why it's so important to do everything we can to slow the spread of the virus so that our hospitals aren't overwhelmed overnight ("flattening the curve" as the CDC is saying). Limiting big public gatherings where it can spread like wildfire in an afternoon is very good policy, as much as it pains me to say because I'm a huge sports fan.
    I don't understand why people need to be hospitalized if their symptoms are fever, cough or possibly shortness of breath, unless they are in the high risk categories.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by egib52 View Post

      I don't understand why people need to be hospitalized if their symptoms are fever, cough or possibly shortness of breath, unless they are in the high risk categories.
      We can just focus on those needing intensive care but the situation isn't much better. The bottom line is we need to slow the rate of infection because there isn't enough capacity at any level.

      "It’s estimated that we have about 45,000 intensive care unit beds in the United States. In a moderate outbreak, about 200,000 Americans would need one.

      [...]

      A recent report from the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins estimated that there were about 160,000 ventilators available for patient care.

      A few years earlier, the same group modeled how many ventilators would be needed in unusual circumstances. In a pandemic akin to the flu pandemics in 1957 or 1968, about 65,000 people might need ventilation.

      Moreover, if a pandemic more closely followed the model of the Spanish flu outbreak of 1918, we would need more than 740,000 ventilators."

      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/12/u...-capacity.html
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Go_Braves View Post

        Good morning everyone - please note - as everyone is learning - there is so much information and dis-information out there right now Let me share with all of you - one key aspect about the coronavirus that so many are missing. This is not from me - this is from the WHO (World Health Organization): Simply put the coronavirus is "deadlier" than the Flu..... Please read the following and I have attached the WHO web site article from where this came from. Bottom line - one simple to understand aspect... The coronavirus is deadlier than the flu... as stated by the WHO the flu has a 1% death rate - the coronavirus has a 3.4% death rate and another article I have read up to a 4% death rate - simply put the coronavirus is 4 times deadlier... A likely "key reason" for those in various organizations (NBA, NCAA, etc etc) that are "in the know" are making the difficult decisions that they are making. Here is a portion of the WHO web article - with the link below..Thank you

        " Another difference: Covid-19 generally seems to lead to more severe disease than seasonal flu strains, in part because people have no immune protection against the new virus, Tedros said. Flu infections generally kill “far fewer than 1% of those infected,” Tedros said, but as of now, about 3.4% of Covid-19 cases have been fatal. (The fatality rate for Covid-19 is considered preliminary, especially given that experts are not sure how many mild cases are going undetected by health systems.)

        The coronavirus, Tedros said, “causes more severe illness than flu, there are not yet any vaccines or therapeutics, and it can be contained — which is why we must do everything we can to contain it.” "

        https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/03/...-be-contained/
        You're assuming we trust what the WHO tells us, which I for one, do not.
        Larry Bird
        I've got a theory that if you give 100 percent all of the time, somehow things will work out in the end.

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        • #34
          The whole thing will be canceled... man we can’t get a break.. finally put together back 2 back appearances and it will go unnoticed.. about right
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          • #35
            Should have a tourney with teams already in and only conf champs if the tourney was canceled.. they play for the title

            no seeds, ping pong ball it to see who plays who...

            i mean if the alternative is to cancel it why not do something unique
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            • #36
              Here are the current mortality rates broken down by age groups. This is based on worldwide statistics, which come from the WHO. There have been 40 US deaths, most of them connected to a single nursing home in Washington, so not enough to compile meaningful statistics for the US. However, the mortality rates for the US are expected to be lower due to earlier diagnosis, and better treatment.-
              https://www.worldometers.info/corona...-demographics/
              covid-19

              If you are younger, and in good health, the coronavirus doesn't pose much risk. The mortality rates for those under 50 are similar to the flu.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by egib52 View Post

                I don't understand why people need to be hospitalized if their symptoms are fever, cough or possibly shortness of breath, unless they are in the high risk categories.
                I think it is because of dehydration which happens with the regular flu.. Push fluids people

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                • #38
                  I spent 35 years in the medical field and cancelling or playing with no fans is the right thing to do.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by elmerb View Post
                    I spent 35 years in the medical field and cancelling or playing with no fans is the right thing to do.
                    There are plenty of people in the medical field that are saying this is overblown, as well. So I respect your opinion while also noting that there are others with the same experience with an entirely different opinion on the matter.

                    Thomas Jefferson - I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.

                    If you are afraid, lock yourself in your house and don't go anywhere. I'm personally not concerned about it, and I'm getting a little tired of everyone else's panic affecting me. That being said, I recognize that the NCAA, NBA, NHL, etc. are all privately owned organizations that have the right to make these decisions. So be it. But once this turns into the government telling me what I can do and where I can go, then I'm going to have an issue with it, and I think we all know that's coming next.
                    Larry Bird
                    I've got a theory that if you give 100 percent all of the time, somehow things will work out in the end.

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