Haven't seen this posted yet so I thought I would post the link...
http://www.bradleybraves.com//ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3400&ATCLID=204973083
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Media Tour of New Arena
- Thread starter DUBrave5
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One thing that does bother me is that the practice facility in there is called the Men's Basketball Practice Facility. I know that the men are practicing there but from what I have been told, so are the women. I'm surprised with all the gender equality fights these days that Bradley would let it be called the Men's Basketball Practice Facility.
I am pretty sure that facility (the men's basketball practice facility) was funded by a private donation that was made specifically to develop and build it for that purpose. In that case, maybe it then is not necessary to follow the same Title IX garbage they usually have to follow.
From what I recall it was supposed to be named the Puterbaugh Men's Basketball Practice Facility, but you are telling me that they couldn't just as easily named it the Puterbaugh Basketball Practice Facility.
I know I have my reasons for noticing this and most people on this board don't know those reasons but it just doesn't sit right with me. Guess I'll just have to donate millions of dollars in the future and then I can get something named any way that I want :lol: :mrgreen:
Up until a few months ago, it was called the Puterbaugh Men's Basketball Practice Facility, but now the name has been changed to simply the Men's Basketball Practice Facility.
Does anyone know why the Puterbaugh name was removed?
Old BU web page pulled from Google cache-
Puterbaugh Men's Basketball Practice Facility
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...ce+facility+bradley&cd=14&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Now the same webpage, but a different name-
Men's Basketball Practice Facility
https://campaign.bradley.edu/priorities/practice.shtml
Does anyone know why the Puterbaugh name was removed?
Old BU web page pulled from Google cache-
Puterbaugh Men's Basketball Practice Facility
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...ce+facility+bradley&cd=14&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Now the same webpage, but a different name-
Men's Basketball Practice Facility
https://campaign.bradley.edu/priorities/practice.shtml
I just can't believe that THIS is what we want ESPN to see if we were to play in the NIT. Seriously, I appreciate the work and effort and thought put into this, but if we ever get into the NIT situation, home games played here will be the laughing stock of the NIT tournament.
Braves4Life
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I also disagree. And I think the atmosphere would be second to none.
Future Walk-On
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I did see Matson outside with his camera this evening too.
tornado
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Question:
Here's a pic of the floor of the practice facility... -- there's only one 3-pt arc and it is NOT the right one for Women's college basketball...
so doesn't that maybe signify that the women practice elsewhere and that this one is strictly for the Men?
http://www.pjstar.com/sports/x145187981/Bradley-Athletics-Complex-Breathtaking?photo=2
The arena floor however has what appears to be just one line, too but it IS for the women..
http://www.pjstar.com/sports/x145187981/Bradley-Athletics-Complex-Breathtaking?photo=0
Here's a pic of the floor of the practice facility... -- there's only one 3-pt arc and it is NOT the right one for Women's college basketball...
so doesn't that maybe signify that the women practice elsewhere and that this one is strictly for the Men?
http://www.pjstar.com/sports/x145187981/Bradley-Athletics-Complex-Breathtaking?photo=2
The arena floor however has what appears to be just one line, too but it IS for the women..
http://www.pjstar.com/sports/x145187981/Bradley-Athletics-Complex-Breathtaking?photo=0
This highlights what I've been told. The men will practice in their arena and the women will practice in the performance arena....
squirrelgotdead
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I also tend to disagree, a lot would depend on the team, I think. For instance, the atmosphere for the Illini @ Stony Brook was pretty great last year.
And maybe I'm wrong, but I'm thinking that depending on the opponent, Carver might still be a possibility. In other words, BU is still good for 9K+ for a big name.
I've heard JL is actually very concerned that the atmosphere for the on-campus games might be "too good" and when the team goes to the Civic Center it might be a shock to the team at how dead a place it really is.
squirrelgotdead
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This has always been intended as a "men's practice facility" and Title IX doesn't restrict those in any way.
Nearly all BCS and outstanding mid programs have their own dedicated practice facilities.
I imagine there will be situations that arise where the women's hoops team might have to practice there (volleyball conflicts) or if both hoops programs make the postseason the men may have a game and the women a practice, graduation day, etc.
AZ BU Fan
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Come to BU where post season bb games will be played in your 'practice facility'.
Can't see how this would entice top HS players to choose BU over others in the Valey.
BU's only hope would be that tv coverage of NIT post season games played here would be tight, and not pan around the new 'gym'.
Too bad they didn't put a raised floor in the new facility, that could have helped the 'cool' factor....
Conspiracy Theory: Puterbaugh's decied to yank name after BU threatened to play men's BB games in the new 'practice facility' and cut off season ticket holders who don't pony up a second annual seat license fee to watch them there.
I dunno, a lot of the so-called "blue hairs" that have season tickets still like the NIT and view it as a prestigious title. A lot of them will be upset that the number of seats is far under the amount of Season ticket holders. I can believe that this venue would be large enough for oh, say, the CBI/CIT, but the NIT still draws pretty good teams and crowds.
Just look at this year's NIT: Illinois, Mississippi, VT, Mississippi State, NORTH CAROLINA. Not to mention Valley BU rivals Wichita and ISU. Now, tell me that it would be smart for BU to host a THIRD ISU contest, a contest that normally draws a sellout crowd at the 11,00 seat Carver, in a TOURNAMENT at a 4,500 seat arena. Or consider an Illinois or North Carolina. I can guarantee you that BOTH of those teams would be sellout crowds (although the Illinois crowd might be split if we don't pack the place first haha). That's like saying, "Oh, we're hosting Duke this year. Hmm, Let's put it in the New Arena and exclude the students and everyone else in the Metropolitan area that would go."
Just look at this year's NIT: Illinois, Mississippi, VT, Mississippi State, NORTH CAROLINA. Not to mention Valley BU rivals Wichita and ISU. Now, tell me that it would be smart for BU to host a THIRD ISU contest, a contest that normally draws a sellout crowd at the 11,00 seat Carver, in a TOURNAMENT at a 4,500 seat arena. Or consider an Illinois or North Carolina. I can guarantee you that BOTH of those teams would be sellout crowds (although the Illinois crowd might be split if we don't pack the place first haha). That's like saying, "Oh, we're hosting Duke this year. Hmm, Let's put it in the New Arena and exclude the students and everyone else in the Metropolitan area that would go."
Said it before...I'll say it again. I think that playing on campus is a great idea...for specific games.
I don't understand why folks are all bent out of shape on this. I guess I agree with Coach Les - I think that the atmosphere for these sell-out games is going to be insane. If it drives some more student interest downtown... then that is freaking fantastic.
The folks that do a little legwork instead of grumbling will get tickets. No one said that you had to pony up for those reserved seats. THERE WILL BE GENERAL ADMISSION TICKETS - just make sure you get one.
Really, put on your big girl panties and get over it already.
I don't understand why folks are all bent out of shape on this. I guess I agree with Coach Les - I think that the atmosphere for these sell-out games is going to be insane. If it drives some more student interest downtown... then that is freaking fantastic.
The folks that do a little legwork instead of grumbling will get tickets. No one said that you had to pony up for those reserved seats. THERE WILL BE GENERAL ADMISSION TICKETS - just make sure you get one.
Really, put on your big girl panties and get over it already.
It's not so much the fact that they are going to play games there, it's just certain ones. Sure, the new arena gives us more flexibility.... to play small schools. Great, now we'll become like ISU, scheduling a ton of small schools like Dayton just to show that we have power over the Civic Center. Besides, I think we get pretty good priority at the Civic Center.
Bottom Line: If you want to hold CBI/CIT games, or small school games on-campus, great. But you get up to the Bigger name NIT and Larger Non-Con schools at the on-campus arena, you're just being plain stupid. Sure, it MIGHT get more students to come, but at the cost of attendence numbers that will make the rest of the NCAA make a category of "Bradley Jokes" at their meetings. I just have a question, we had the history, the tradition, and the memories of the Fieldhouse. Honestly, it reminds me of how Butler fans think of Hinkle. Now, instead of renovating the larger capacity Fieldhouse and THEN concentrating on this whole "let's have more games on-campus to get the students into it" kick. You know using HISTORY as an even better incentive. You build a new, smaller arena in the whole "new style". Very plain and un-impressive. And try to draw fans in. Honestly, I don't know why the fieldhouse needed replacing. Look at places like Butler and Duke. Cameron Indoor and Hinkle have been around forever. Both are on-campus and they sell out most of their crowds. Now, either we really DID need a new arena to attract more fans, then that is understandable, but it seems that with the right marketing strategy, teams with "Old Stadiums" as their PRIMARY arenas ON-CAMPUS can pack the place just like those with smaller "New Stadiums".
PS, I think this was my longest post ever! haha
Bottom Line: If you want to hold CBI/CIT games, or small school games on-campus, great. But you get up to the Bigger name NIT and Larger Non-Con schools at the on-campus arena, you're just being plain stupid. Sure, it MIGHT get more students to come, but at the cost of attendence numbers that will make the rest of the NCAA make a category of "Bradley Jokes" at their meetings. I just have a question, we had the history, the tradition, and the memories of the Fieldhouse. Honestly, it reminds me of how Butler fans think of Hinkle. Now, instead of renovating the larger capacity Fieldhouse and THEN concentrating on this whole "let's have more games on-campus to get the students into it" kick. You know using HISTORY as an even better incentive. You build a new, smaller arena in the whole "new style". Very plain and un-impressive. And try to draw fans in. Honestly, I don't know why the fieldhouse needed replacing. Look at places like Butler and Duke. Cameron Indoor and Hinkle have been around forever. Both are on-campus and they sell out most of their crowds. Now, either we really DID need a new arena to attract more fans, then that is understandable, but it seems that with the right marketing strategy, teams with "Old Stadiums" as their PRIMARY arenas ON-CAMPUS can pack the place just like those with smaller "New Stadiums".
PS, I think this was my longest post ever! haha
Haha, righhhhhttt. Cuz I've NEVER seen ESPN do a pan shot in the NIT. lol
I've posted these numbers before, but here they are again.....
I don't think ANY regular season or postseason game belongs in the new arena.
I posted the last three postseasons' attendance at Carver Arena in another thread......
5,928.....2008-09.....CIT.....4 games
6,851.....2007-08.....CBI.....3 games
8,304.....2006-07.....NIT.....1 game
4,472.....Lowest
9,014.....Highest
6,571.....Average attendance
Only three of the last eight postseason games at Carver were under 6,100. I'm sure these numbers are closer to the actual attendance than regular season games, since they are not part of the season ticket package.
