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Ruffin Injury

MacabreMob

MacabreMob

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Wanted to start a new thread so people can update me and others on what they heard or know. Instead of trying to dig thru a bunch of threads... this might be easier.

Anyway, I don't know anything more than what we saw last night and heard on the radio.

I think Ruff tweeked it pretty bad when he went for a rebound and then wound up in the corner as everyone cleared and went down court, but he had picked up his dribble. So before others came back to help or BU turned the ball over, we called a time out. He continued to play and he mighta hurt it worse by doing so.

What's anybody else got?
 
Good lord I hope this isn't a repeat of what happened when Phillip Gilbert went down for 10 games and we went 1-9 without him.
 
Gilbert's injury was a stress fracture in his left foot. I am not sure this injury is comparable. Likely, Daniel will get another MRI today or tomorrow and we'll know if there is any muscle damage or tear. If there is, he'll have to sit for a couple weeks. If, like the last MRI, it shows strain without tearing or damage to the muscle, he will get therapy, back off the practices, and maybe be ready next Saturday.
 
Da Coach said:
Gilbert's injury was a stress fracture in his left foot. I am not sure this injury is comparable. Likely, Daniel will get another MRI today or tomorrow and we'll know if there is any muscle damage or tear. If there is, he'll have to sit for a couple weeks. If, like the last MRI, it shows strain without tearing or damage to the muscle, he will get therapy, back off the practices, and maybe be ready next Saturday.
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I wasn't comparing the injuries, I was comparing losing our best, most relied on player for a extended stretch of games, having no one step, and just about completely falling apart until that player returns. I just hope history isn't repeating itself, and Les has figured out how to handle this situation.

I pray this isn't something that keeps Ruffin on the bench for more than a few games because Sam. M, TCS, and Warren showed they can't run the point against a better than average team or defend against a better than average point guard.
 
abesimpson said:
I wasn't comparing the injuries, I was comparing losing our best, most relied on player for a extended stretch of games, having no one step, and just about completely falling apart until that player returns. I just hope history isn't repeating itself, and Les has figured out how to handle this situation.

I pray this isn't something that keeps Ruffin on the bench for more than a few games because Sam. M, TCS, and Warren showed they can't run the point against a better than average team or defend against a better than average point guard.
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This might seem weird... but how about JC running the point in Ruff's time off? It would certainly change things up... we have a week to work on it. Go BIG in our lineup, slow it down and be more of an inside team. I know, I know... crazy. But it will be UNSCOUTABLE at first, and might just get us over the hump til Ruff is back.

So Starting 5 much taller:

1 JC (6'5" Sr.)
2 AW (6'5" So.)
3 TW (6'5" Jr.)
4 MS (6'7" Sr.)
5 DC (7'0"Jr.)

Sub SM at point or insert at point and move JC to the 2 or 3 if AW or TW take a break.

Sub T C-S at the 2.

Sub WE and SS at the 4 and 5.
 
bu fan 9 said:
Sam M is going to start if Ruff can't go he is the only other point guard on the team.
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I think that is pretty much a given.

But I was thinking out loud of maybe an alternative to a Freshman running this squad.... and Bradley needing a changeup in the lineup and gameplan. JC has handled the point before and can get the ball up the floor (and has great vision to pass out of trouble). Maybe go with a Senior to take us into Conference play... slow things down a little... don't get so panicky... don't open ourselves to some aching growing pains if we don't have to.

But I agree... Sam M will most likely be the starting point guard Saturday night against UNI.
 
MacabreMob said:
This might seem weird... but how about JC running the point in Ruff's time off? It would certainly change things up... we have a week to work on it. Go BIG in our lineup, slow it down and be more of an inside team. I know, I know... crazy. But it will be UNSCOUTABLE at first, and might just get us over the hump til Ruff is back.

So Starting 5 much taller:

1 JC (6'5" Sr.)
2 AW (6'5" So.)
3 TW (6'5" Jr.)
4 MS (6'7" Sr.)
5 DC (7'0"Jr.)

Sub SM at point or insert at point and move JC to the 2 or 3 if AW or TW take a break.

Sub T C-S at the 2.

Sub WE and SS at the 4 and 5.
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Since we are all thinking out loud and since my Vikings are stinking up the place... How about tweaking your lineup slightly for arguements sake by putting Andrew Warren at the point and leaving JC at the 2. Then leave everything the same except:

Sub RA, WE, and SS at the 4 and 5 in that order....

I am going to appoint myself the President of the Austin fan club until we see what RA can and can not do in game situations.
 
Beninator said:
Since we are all thinking out loud and since my Vikings are stinking up the place... How about tweaking your lineup slightly for arguements sake by putting Andrew Warren at the point and leaving JC at the 2. Then leave everything the same except:

Sub RA, WE, and SS at the 4 and 5 in that order....

I am going to appoint myself the President of the Austin fan club until we see what RA can and can not do in game situations.
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One or the other... Point Guard by Committee... but I do believe Crouch handles the ball better and I would (if I were Coach Les) put the "weight of the world" on my Senior.

I, too, wanna see more RA. He looked a tad jittery at first last night. And I would expect it from him til he has at least ONE GAME to play more than b-s minutes... So I'd want him to play a LOT in a game at home coming up when we are handling the opponent by 8 or more points in the 1st half... get him in the game... bust his cherry. But if JL thinks he is too green and has him on a schedule to get him ready.... and JL puts other players in more often (I don't want to call anyone out - you all can think of a player or a situation where RA might be better).... I think there is more to the story, then... call me a Conspiracy Theorist, I don't care.... I think RA would be getting more playing time if it weren't for.... "blank" (now I feel like Gene Rayburn).
 
MacabreMob said:
One or the other... Point Guard by Committee... but I do believe Crouch handles the ball better and I would (if I were Coach Les) put the "weight of the world" on my Senior.

I think RA would be getting more playing time if it weren't for.... "blank" (now I feel like Gene Rayburn).
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Oh the old Match Game... Richard Dawson was deadly in that show...

I like Warren's quickness and ball handling but point guard by committee is fine with me... I like your idea of a bigger lineup mob.
 
I don't think Crouch can run point, he loses the ball a lot when he dribbles. I think Sam M, TCS, or even AW (as suggested) would be better options.
 
MacabreMob said:
This might seem weird... but how about JC running the point in Ruff's time off? It would certainly change things up... we have a week to work on it. Go BIG in our lineup, slow it down and be more of an inside team. I know, I know... crazy. But it will be UNSCOUTABLE at first, and might just get us over the hump til Ruff is back.

So Starting 5 much taller:

1 JC (6'5" Sr.)
2 AW (6'5" So.)
3 TW (6'5" Jr.)
4 MS (6'7" Sr.)
5 DC (7'0"Jr.)

Sub SM at point or insert at point and move JC to the 2 or 3 if AW or TW take a break.

Sub T C-S at the 2.

Sub WE and SS at the 4 and 5.
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If you noticed JC played the point when SM took a break Saturday night. Yes, JC isn't going to be flashy but he is smart and can play the point if necessary. Has done it before including a few times his freshman year is I remember correctly and I saw him do it in HS. So if DR is out you will probably see JC at point, at least when SM is resting or in foul trouble.
 
PJ Star said MRI yesterday. I'm guessing we'll know something come Wednesday.

Why does something always seem to happen around this time to BU? Nearly every year of the JL era, something has happened around this time of the year to significant personnel. DG leaving, PG's injury, JC's injury, now DR's injury. When does it end?
 
BradleyBrave said:
PJ Star said MRI yesterday. I'm guessing we'll know something come Wednesday.

Why does something always seem to happen around this time to BU? Nearly every year of the JL era, something has happened around this time of the year to significant personnel. DG leaving, PG's injury, JC's injury, now DR's injury. When does it end?
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It seems as though it is always are leading or second leading scorer.
You forgot Anthony Parker (foot) and Aaron Zobrists (ankle at 7th ranked Villanova. he had, like 17 pts in the 1st. half. we were winning. he is injured and we "L").
I believe Rob Dye and Ed Cage (wrist), also had game missing injuries.
Also, Jerome Robinsons shoulder wore down until he could barely shoot in the Mo Valley Championship game. Indy State won and went to The Dance. .
Is there a pox on our house?:confused:
 
Ruffin Injury

I like your big line up Mob, and definitely with JC at the point. He's the better ball-handler, knows the offensive sets, reads defenses well, and will get the ball to open people. Biggest negative might be the fatigue factor which may effect his shooting.
 
onetuffshot said:
I like your big line up Mob, and definitely with JC at the point. He's the better ball-handler, knows the offensive sets, reads defenses well, and will get the ball to open people. Biggest negative might be the fatigue factor which may effect his shooting.
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I hate to say it but SM is a better ball handler then JC. JC is fine when he has to bring it up man on man but when there is pressure he seems to lose spacial integrity. SM is quicker with the ball and also has a lower center of gravity in order to avoid steals. TCS by no means should bring the ball up. He is our quickest ball handler but I'm not convince that he knows the O well enough to be our pt. guard.

On another note we need to pass more and dribble less especially without DR. Our passing game is not nearly as well developed this year as previous years. Good paasing teams have a lot of assists.

Has anyone kept track of our assists this year compared to last year and the year before? Let's not bring in out TO ratio, we all know it must not be favorable compared to last year or any other JL era.
 
SanFranciscoPete said:
I hate to say it but SM is a better ball handler then JC. JC is fine when he has to bring it up man on man but when there is pressure he seems to lose spacial integrity.
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I agree completely. I DO expect to see SM start at point.

I was just suggesting a "new look" during the abscence of Ruffin and going with Senior leadership.

But to defend... I think JC can be a fine "pass" at PG til DR's return. His problems with pressure can be overcome by his 6'5" advantage, floor smarts/vision and calming senior poise.
 
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