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Now that the smoke has cleared!!!

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mexicobufan

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Here is my starting five NOW!!!!

Austin
Ruff
Crouch
Salley
Wilson

Next five
Brown
Cole Scott
Collins
Warren
Egolf

Hard to find minutes for
Maniscalco
Thompson


The interesting thing is I think the second team could on its own compete for the top four or five spots in the MVC.....you have about 8 or 9 guys that have the talent to start..a good problem to have.
 
i've been saying the exact same thing...here's a trivia question:

Q. What does Jeremy Crouch's (jimmy church) three point shot have to do with this team?

A. They are both DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP 8) :lol:

yeah i amuse myself
 
At this point I have no idea what the starting line up will be on opening night. I think the only "for sures" are Ruff and Crouch. My feeling is at this point BU might need to start the guys that have some D1 experience under their belt. A. Warren and M.Salley would probably be in my starting five right now just because they have "been there, done that" at the Div. 1 level. I think we all need to remember that BU has seven new faces that have yet to play a minute of D1 ball. Although our newbies look to be solid players on paper, it may take some time for them to adjust to the bigger, stronger, faster players that they will be facing this year. Unless these guys prove themselves in practice (which they just might do!) I would start our "veterans" and give the new guys some time to adjust. I do think that by the end of the year, some of our new guys will be giving us significant minutes and may find themselves with a starting role.
 
I think you have to add Sam Singh to the list of guys that will have trouble getting many minutes. I think you are right that Thompson will have trouble getting many minutes next year but I think he has a HUGE upside-I'm just not sure he is strong enough yet, but maybe that will change over the summer. I just don't want people to get down on him I think he has great potential. From what I am hearing about Maniscalco I think he will get some PT. We need him to be ready to step up big his sophmore season. I'm not sure who he is going to push out of the rotation but I think he will get some time. I also would not be ready to pencil Wilson into the lineup yet-I think Brown and Warren might be better bets-at least early. It seems like we may be forgetting about Warren a bit as we focus on the new guys.

Overall it seems like a much deeper Bradley team than I ever remember. It should be a fun year.
 
BuBraves55 said:
i think
austin
ruff
jc
wilson
collins

then
warren
brown
cole-scott
thompson
salley
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i disagree almost completely. there's no way you can put collins, austin, and wilson in the starting five over warren, brown, and salley. maybe after several weeks but from the start of the season, there's no way all three of them will start. it just makes no sense. i think salley will start almost for sure. warren OR brown will also start, and one of the new jucos will wrap up the starters.
 
audacious_aficionado said:
BuBraves55 said:
i think
austin
ruff
jc
wilson
collins

then
warren
brown
cole-scott
thompson
salley
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i disagree almost completely. there's no way you can put collins, austin, and wilson in the starting five over warren, brown, and salley. maybe after several weeks but from the start of the season, there's no way all three of them will start. it just makes no sense. i think salley will start almost for sure. warren OR brown will also start, and one of the new jucos will wrap up the starters.
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I would certainly hope that you can put at least one or two in the starting lineup. If not, we are in trouble... I would hope that Salley comes off the bench. He's a decent player, but if he is our best forward, we are in for a long year!
 
I have to agree BUfan 9, Sam M is going to be a pleasant surprise to a lot of fans. The more I read about him during the season the more I knew we had a sleeper. As for Matt Sally, as hard as he tries, he scares me every time he touches the ball and please don't foul him.
 
DeAaron Williams and Jeremy Fears = Great God given talent, terrible work ethic
Rashad Austin and Theron Wilson = Great work ethic and great God given talent
I think we traded up
 
georgethedog said:
audacious_aficionado said:
BuBraves55 said:
i think
austin
ruff
jc
wilson
collins

then
warren
brown
cole-scott
thompson
salley
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i disagree almost completely. there's no way you can put collins, austin, and wilson in the starting five over warren, brown, and salley. maybe after several weeks but from the start of the season, there's no way all three of them will start. it just makes no sense. i think salley will start almost for sure. warren OR brown will also start, and one of the new jucos will wrap up the starters.
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I would certainly hope that you can put at least one or two in the starting lineup. If not, we are in trouble... I would hope that Salley comes off the bench. He's a decent player, but if he is our best forward, we are in for a long year!
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thats exactly how i look at salley next year too
 
Guys, Salley had a very solid first year for a JUCO, he was just getting adjusted to the game by the end of last season, and looked very good. Look at the progress JC made from his sophomore to junior year, or that ZA made from his First year at BU to last year. If Matt progresses half as much as ZA did he'll be a monster.
 
amckillip said:
Guys, Salley had a very solid first year for a JUCO, he was just getting adjusted to the game by the end of last season, and looked very good. Look at the progress JC made from his sophomore to junior year, or that ZA made from his First year at BU to last year. If Matt progresses half as much as ZA did he'll be a monster.
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Not to mention, he'll have the luxury of going back to his true position next season with the guys that were brought in to play center. I think he'll be just fine in the starting lineup.
 
bu fan 9 said:
Sam M is lot better player than you think and we see time on the floor this year.
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From Mike Nadel's 2/11 "Baldest Truth" blog:

As for Maniscalco, I certainly see why Jim Les likes him. For the Bradley coach, watching the 6-foot guard must have been like looking at old game films of himself. Maniscalco is tough, passionate, intelligent and talented. He obviously possesses strong leadership skills, too.

He scored 32 points Saturday, including eight 3-pointers. He had no trouble burning the quick, 5-7 guard St. Joe???‚¬?„?s coach Gene Pingatore started on him, and when the 6-6 Turner was switched onto Maniscalco in the fourth quarter, the St. Pat???‚¬?„?s standout just kept moving, running Turner into screens and hitting shots.

I was most impressed by Maniscalco???‚¬?„?s toughness. He sacrificed his body to set in-the-lane back screens on St. Joe???‚¬?„?s big men, willingly traded elbows with opponents and dove to the floor in pursuit of loose basketballs several times.

It???‚¬?„?s never easy to project how an undersized player without superior quickness will fare on the Division I level, but this kid has ???‚¬?“winner???‚¬?? written all over him.
 
Ruffin, Warren, Crouch, Austin, Collins ; Maniscalco will get min. and Thompson"s may be limited but the rest of the players will challenge for those starting spots and it may depend on who are opponents are as we have a nice problem with all this talent.
 
amckillip said:
Guys, Salley had a very solid first year for a JUCO, he was just getting adjusted to the game by the end of last season, and looked very good. Look at the progress JC made from his sophomore to junior year, or that ZA made from his First year at BU to last year. If Matt progresses half as much as ZA did he'll be a monster.
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You must be:
A. Matt Salley himself, or
B. Matt Salley's roommate, or
C. Matt Salley's best friend, or
D. A combination of A. - C.

Matt had an OK first year and Matt is a good player. However, Matt Salley will never be a monster, and sometimes it looks like everyone else on the floor is in a higher gear than Matt. I understand you like Matt, but you seem to overestimate his talents and abilities. You always say, "at the end of the season he looked very good." I am not sure of that. How good did he do against the Mississippi big guys? I cannot remember? Anyway, if Matt becomes a great player off the bench next year BU will be having a great year. If Matt has to start, let's hope we make it to the NIT again.
 
georgethedog said:
amckillip said:
Guys, Salley had a very solid first year for a JUCO, he was just getting adjusted to the game by the end of last season, and looked very good. Look at the progress JC made from his sophomore to junior year, or that ZA made from his First year at BU to last year. If Matt progresses half as much as ZA did he'll be a monster.
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You must be:
A. Matt Salley himself, or
B. Matt Salley's roommate, or
C. Matt Salley's best friend, or
D. A combination of A. - C.

Matt had an OK first year and Matt is a good player. However, Matt Salley will never be a monster, and sometimes it looks like everyone else on the floor is in a higher gear than Matt. I understand you like Matt, but you seem to overestimate his talents and abilities. You always say, "at the end of the season he looked very good." I am not sure of that. How good did he do against the Mississippi big guys? I cannot remember? Anyway, if Matt becomes a great player off the bench next year BU will be having a great year. If Matt has to start, let's hope we make it to the NIT again.
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I'm gonna have to agree with amckillip. salley DID do well for a first year juco guy. look at other jucos we've had in the past. they all make huge steps from junior to senior season.

Also, how can you discount the fact that he won't have to play center?!?! he was never a center. he is a good power forward. he is not dominant on defense against true centers but he can certainly be a threat on both sides with smaller guys opposing him.

I would be EXTREMELY happy if salley was not good enough to start at 4 for us next season.... not because i don't want him out there, but because that would mean that both collins and austin are unbelievable stories coming out of junior colleges. IMO they will be valuable players but not unbelievable.
 
audacious_aficionado said:
georgethedog said:
amckillip said:
Guys, Salley had a very solid first year for a JUCO, he was just getting adjusted to the game by the end of last season, and looked very good. Look at the progress JC made from his sophomore to junior year, or that ZA made from his First year at BU to last year. If Matt progresses half as much as ZA did he'll be a monster.
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You must be:
A. Matt Salley himself, or
B. Matt Salley's roommate, or
C. Matt Salley's best friend, or
D. A combination of A. - C.

Matt had an OK first year and Matt is a good player. However, Matt Salley will never be a monster, and sometimes it looks like everyone else on the floor is in a higher gear than Matt. I understand you like Matt, but you seem to overestimate his talents and abilities. You always say, "at the end of the season he looked very good." I am not sure of that. How good did he do against the Mississippi big guys? I cannot remember? Anyway, if Matt becomes a great player off the bench next year BU will be having a great year. If Matt has to start, let's hope we make it to the NIT again.
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I'm gonna have to agree with amckillip. salley DID do well for a first year juco guy. look at other jucos we've had in the past. they all make huge steps from junior to senior season.

Also, how can you discount the fact that he won't have to play center?!?! he was never a center. he is a good power forward. he is not dominant on defense against true centers but he can certainly be a threat on both sides with smaller guys opposing him.

I would be EXTREMELY happy if salley was not good enough to start at 4 for us next season.... not because i don't want him out there, but because that would mean that both collins and austin are unbelievable stories coming out of junior colleges. IMO they will be valuable players but not unbelievable.
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That's cool. Everyone has their opinion and that is fine. If we all agreed, this board would be dead. Anyway, I just do not see the upside of Salley like you guys do. I sure hope you are right. I will admit it if it happens. :)
 
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