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Kirk Wessler column

If SIU wins in St. Louis too, there's no reason to give the MVC two.

Creighton, Missouri St, Wichita, Bradley, and Northern Iowa have all choked away their chances to stake a claim to an at-large.
 
squirrel said:
If SIU wins in St. Louis too, there's no reason to give the MVC two.

Creighton, Missouri St, Wichita, Bradley, and Northern Iowa have all choked away their chances to stake a claim to an at-large.
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Agreed.
 
If SIU wins the MVC tourney, it's possible that the MVC gets only 1 bid, but not probable. It's possilbe that I'll win the Texas lotto in tonight's drawing, but not probable.

MSU has the resume to make the big dance. The Winthrop loss is minimized because people now realize just how good Winthrop is.
 
I can't believe what I'm reading here! I can't believe that everyone is saying we are a one bid league if SIU wins the Valley tourney! Anything less than three bids would be a complete travesty of justice since I cannot recall the last time that the number 6 or number 7 conference earned less than three bids.

While Bradley will most likely not be one of them unless they win the tourney outright, the three teams sitting ahead of them all have the resume to get in, irregardless of recent setbacks. Duke can lose four in a row, and no one blinks, but Creighton and Missouri St lose two in a row, and all heck breaks lose! I for one am not buying it!

Book it! The Valley WILL get at least three bids into the NCAA Tournament, no matter what happens in St. Louis!
 
Bravesfan said:
I can't believe what I'm reading here! I can't believe that everyone is saying we are a one bid league if SIU wins the Valley tourney! Anything less than three bids would be a complete travesty of justice since I cannot recall the last time that the number 6 or number 7 conference earned less than three bids.

While Bradley will most likely not be one of them unless they win the tourney outright, the three teams sitting ahead of them all have the resume to get in, irregardless of recent setbacks. Duke can lose four in a row, and no one blinks, but Creighton and Missouri St lose two in a row, and all heck breaks lose! I for one am not buying it!

Book it! The Valley WILL get at least three bids into the NCAA

Tournament, no matter what happens in St. Louis!
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I agree. The Valley is NOT the only league that is jumbled. You do not have to look any further than The Big 10. two teams at the top, then a whole bunch of .500 teams.
Take last night Yea Bradley loses to N. Iowa, but #1 or #2 Wisconsin falls to an average MSU and #23 West Virginia falls to a pretty ordinary if not bad Providence team.
Bad loses are not only happening in The Valley.
Selection Sunday is going to be pretty interesting.
The Valley gets 3 in.
 
Grassman said:
Bravesfan said:
I can't believe what I'm reading here! I can't believe that everyone is saying we are a one bid league if SIU wins the Valley tourney! Anything less than three bids would be a complete travesty of justice since I cannot recall the last time that the number 6 or number 7 conference earned less than three bids.

While Bradley will most likely not be one of them unless they win the tourney outright, the three teams sitting ahead of them all have the resume to get in, irregardless of recent setbacks. Duke can lose four in a row, and no one blinks, but Creighton and Missouri St lose two in a row, and all heck breaks lose! I for one am not buying it!

Book it! The Valley WILL get at least three bids into the NCAA

Tournament, no matter what happens in St. Louis!
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I agree. The Valley is NOT the only league that is jumbled. You do not have to look any further than The Big 10. two teams at the top, then a whole bunch of .500 teams.
Take last night Yea Bradley loses to N. Iowa, but #1 or #2 Wisconsin falls to an average MSU and #23 West Virginia falls to a pretty ordianry if not bad Providence team.
Bad loses are not only happening in The Valley.
Selection Sunday is going to be pretty interesting.
The Valley gets 3 in.
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That average MSU team beat us by 29! If SMS loses in the first round in St. Louis like they did last year and Creighton does the same they are not going to make it IMO. There are lots of bubble teams this year and Valley did itself no favors during the Bracket Buster. How can the second best team in the conference, with hopes of getting an at large bid lose to ISU?
 
Lakeview Brave said:
Grassman said:
Bravesfan said:
I can't believe what I'm reading here! I can't believe that everyone is saying we are a one bid league if SIU wins the Valley tourney! Anything less than three bids would be a complete travesty of justice since I cannot recall the last time that the number 6 or number 7 conference earned less than three bids.

While Bradley will most likely not be one of them unless they win the tourney outright, the three teams sitting ahead of them all have the resume to get in, irregardless of recent setbacks. Duke can lose four in a row, and no one blinks, but Creighton and Missouri St lose two in a row, and all heck breaks lose! I for one am not buying it!

Book it! The Valley WILL get at least three bids into the NCAA

Tournament, no matter what happens in St. Louis!
Click to expand...


I agree. The Valley is NOT the only league that is jumbled. You do not have to look any further than The Big 10. two teams at the top, then a whole bunch of .500 teams.
Take last night Yea Bradley loses to N. Iowa, but #1 or #2 Wisconsin falls to an average MSU and #23 West Virginia falls to a pretty ordianry if not bad Providence team.
Bad loses are not only happening in The Valley.
Selection Sunday is going to be pretty interesting.
The Valley gets 3 in.
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That average MSU team beat us by 29! If SMS loses in the first round in St. Louis like they did last year and Creighton does the same they are not going to make it IMO. There are lots of bubble teams this year and Valley did itself no favors during the Bracket Buster. How can the second best team in the conference, with hopes of getting an at large bid lose to ISU?
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I am sure one of our amazing fact finders on this site can help me out here, because I am sure other 2nd place teams have lost on the 7th place teams home floors this year
 
Grassman said:
Lakeview Brave said:
Grassman said:
Bravesfan said:
I can't believe what I'm reading here! I can't believe that everyone is saying we are a one bid league if SIU wins the Valley tourney! Anything less than three bids would be a complete travesty of justice since I cannot recall the last time that the number 6 or number 7 conference earned less than three bids.

While Bradley will most likely not be one of them unless they win the tourney outright, the three teams sitting ahead of them all have the resume to get in, irregardless of recent setbacks. Duke can lose four in a row, and no one blinks, but Creighton and Missouri St lose two in a row, and all heck breaks lose! I for one am not buying it!

Book it! The Valley WILL get at least three bids into the NCAA

Tournament, no matter what happens in St. Louis!
Click to expand...


I agree. The Valley is NOT the only league that is jumbled. You do not have to look any further than The Big 10. two teams at the top, then a whole bunch of .500 teams.
Take last night Yea Bradley loses to N. Iowa, but #1 or #2 Wisconsin falls to an average MSU and #23 West Virginia falls to a pretty ordianry if not bad Providence team.
Bad loses are not only happening in The Valley.
Selection Sunday is going to be pretty interesting.
The Valley gets 3 in.
Click to expand...

That average MSU team beat us by 29! If SMS loses in the first round in St. Louis like they did last year and Creighton does the same they are not going to make it IMO. There are lots of bubble teams this year and Valley did itself no favors during the Bracket Buster. How can the second best team in the conference, with hopes of getting an at large bid lose to ISU?
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I am sure one of our amazing fact finders on this site can help me out here, because I am sure other 2nd place teams have lost on the 7th place teams home floors this year
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Thats not really the point. The point is Creighton does not have a very good resume and either does SMS if the lose in St. Louis in the first round the are out IMO.
 
Bravesfan said:
I can't believe what I'm reading here! I can't believe that everyone is saying we are a one bid league if SIU wins the Valley tourney! Anything less than three bids would be a complete travesty of justice since I cannot recall the last time that the number 6 or number 7 conference earned less than three bids.

While Bradley will most likely not be one of them unless they win the tourney outright, the three teams sitting ahead of them all have the resume to get in, irregardless of recent setbacks. Duke can lose four in a row, and no one blinks, but Creighton and Missouri St lose two in a row, and all heck breaks lose! I for one am not buying it!

Book it! The Valley WILL get at least three bids into the NCAA Tournament, no matter what happens in St. Louis!
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defenitly agree...

1) i really cant see SIU winning the tourny, that 1 automatic bid for another team
2) SIU gets an at large
3) MSU, CU, BU, WSU compete for the other spot

3 bids, book it
 
Long-Hair's Lunatics said:
Bravesfan said:
I can't believe what I'm reading here! I can't believe that everyone is saying we are a one bid league if SIU wins the Valley tourney! Anything less than three bids would be a complete travesty of justice since I cannot recall the last time that the number 6 or number 7 conference earned less than three bids.

While Bradley will most likely not be one of them unless they win the tourney outright, the three teams sitting ahead of them all have the resume to get in, irregardless of recent setbacks. Duke can lose four in a row, and no one blinks, but Creighton and Missouri St lose two in a row, and all heck breaks lose! I for one am not buying it!

Book it! The Valley WILL get at least three bids into the NCAA Tournament, no matter what happens in St. Louis!
Click to expand...

defenitly agree...

1) i really cant see SIU winning the tourny, that 1 automatic bid for another team
2) SIU gets an at large
3) MSU, CU, BU, WSU compete for the other spot

3 bids, book it
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BU and WSU have no chance. MSU and CU have a chance but I think they need to make it to Sunday.
 
As much as I am the eternal optimist i think the our chance for an at-large dissappeared with the UNI loss, I really think we need to win the tourney to get in to the NCAA's. However I do think CU still has a good at large chance, but for the MoVal to get 3 bids I think someone other than CU or SIU must get the auto-bid, not based on the strength of the MoVal, but because we all beat each other up, and I do believe teams get bids above conferences, at least when your not the ACC or Big East.
 
Lakeview Brave said:
Long-Hair's Lunatics said:
Bravesfan said:
I can't believe what I'm reading here! I can't believe that everyone is saying we are a one bid league if SIU wins the Valley tourney! Anything less than three bids would be a complete travesty of justice since I cannot recall the last time that the number 6 or number 7 conference earned less than three bids.

While Bradley will most likely not be one of them unless they win the tourney outright, the three teams sitting ahead of them all have the resume to get in, irregardless of recent setbacks. Duke can lose four in a row, and no one blinks, but Creighton and Missouri St lose two in a row, and all heck breaks lose! I for one am not buying it!

Book it! The Valley WILL get at least three bids into the NCAA Tournament, no matter what happens in St. Louis!
Click to expand...

defenitly agree...

1) i really cant see SIU winning the tourny, that 1 automatic bid for another team
2) SIU gets an at large
3) MSU, CU, BU, WSU compete for the other spot

3 bids, book it
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BU and WSU have no chance. MSU and CU have a chance but I think they need to make it to Sunday.
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What i ment was they had a chance in the tourny. It's the Valley, anything could happen :D :wink:
 
I agree with the fact that we might only be a 2 bid this year. Mainly because only two teams have shown some decent consistency, Creighton and SIU.

Keep in mind, you dont want 4 teams going into the NCAA and two getting knocked out in the first round. That just makes us look bad.
 
I Must Be Nuts

I Must Be Nuts

Call me crazy but I predict that The Valley will get three teams in AND BU WILL BE ONE OF THEM!!!!!

You heard it here first! :-o
 
Re: I Must Be Nuts

Re: I Must Be Nuts

Braves4Life said:
Call me crazy but I predict that The Valley will get three teams in AND BU WILL BE ONE OF THEM!!!!!

You heard it here first! :-o
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I dearly hope your right, last night really, really, really got me down. If nothing else I think it is a shame for these players to work this hard and come this far and not make it to the tournament. However as was said several weeks ago BU's Destiny(as well as anyone elses) was in their hands, now they just have to grab onto their last hope and win the tourney.
 
Re: Another Kirk Wessler "gem"!

Re: Another Kirk Wessler "gem"!

OrangeandBlack74 said:
Bravesfan said:
What a moron! And not because of his feelings toward Bradley. That he even implies that the Valley would only possibly earn one bid to the NCAA Tournament shows he did not do his homework!

http://pjstar.com/stories/022107/KIR_BCEOLC98.077.php
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Consider the source and move on..... :roll:
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KW is a typical member of the Drive-by Media... "he supports the players but not the team (and not the conference)."

:twisted:
 
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