LittleBrave
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Are we really that talented at the guard position this year?
If everyone stays healthy, and with WL on board, we have the best depth in guards in the Valley - no doubt.
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Valley Super-Sophs
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Are we really that talented at the guard position this year?
If everyone stays healthy, and with WL on board, we have the best depth in guards in the Valley - no doubt.
LittleBrave
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This is why I was reluctant to put him on my Top 5 list. A lot may change without Dinma. Carmichael and Lewis are scrappy players and score on lay-ups mostly. Would be nice to have a couple bangers like them on BU.
it's boogie time
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Taylor Brown's numbers as a freshmen were 3.4 ppg & 3.0 rpg. However, I think most everybody on this board knew that he was going to be a very good player. I doubt many other fans knew it. Somewhere in those 11mpg you could tell that there was something different.
You see guys like DSE and Carmichael as freshmen and it's pretty obvious they have more talent than most of the incoming guys. As freshmen, they have their faults. You also assume that they are going to have the most improvement from one year to the next. That's why I'm interested to see if DSE will improve more on his ballhandling skills to be more of a point guard type player or if he will improve his outside shooting. The nice part is that he doesn't need to add bulk like most freshmen.
I hope Carmichael is overwhelmed or always in foul trouble. Anybody certainly can have a sophomore slump. I would just guess he won't.
I didn't see the other guys on the list enough. I do know that I was happy when Teague was forced to sit against BU.
You see guys like DSE and Carmichael as freshmen and it's pretty obvious they have more talent than most of the incoming guys. As freshmen, they have their faults. You also assume that they are going to have the most improvement from one year to the next. That's why I'm interested to see if DSE will improve more on his ballhandling skills to be more of a point guard type player or if he will improve his outside shooting. The nice part is that he doesn't need to add bulk like most freshmen.
I hope Carmichael is overwhelmed or always in foul trouble. Anybody certainly can have a sophomore slump. I would just guess he won't.
I didn't see the other guys on the list enough. I do know that I was happy when Teague was forced to sit against BU.
sycamorefan
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Technically he's not a sophomore BUT....
Technically he's not a sophomore BUT....
Dwayne Lathan's second year in the valley should be even more impressive than his first MVC tournament game of 27 points....
Technically he's not a sophomore BUT....
Dwayne Lathan's second year in the valley should be even more impressive than his first MVC tournament game of 27 points....
tornado
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we have two guards that return as seniors (one of whom is a 5th year senior)
and both are among the top 2 in returning scoring in the Valley..
Warren is #1 at 14.7 ppg, Maniscalco is #2 at 14.3 ppg.
Then add Dodie who has a double digit career scoring average at BU..and that gives us 3 of the best guards in the Valley...
The only other guards that return with a double digit average are Colt Ryan (14.3), Adam Leonard (13.2), Jermaine Mallett (12.2), Denver Holmes (12.2), Toure Murry (11.1), Ryan Wedel (11.0), Kwadzo Ahelegbe (10.6)
(Lathan did not play enough league games to qualify his stats but he did average 9.5 ppg in eight league games)
As for how Lathan will do this season....hard to judge - as he only had one really breakout game....
.....in his final two games last season...
--one he was 9-16, 5-7 from 3pt, scoring 27 pts...
--the other he was 2-10 and 0-3 from 3pt, scoring just 8 pts.
sycamorefan
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Our Injury bug last season seemed to be his problem so all we have to hope for is less bad luck lol...
tornado
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Of your main seven guys who would have started games, you lost 41 games to injury or discipline (Marshall missed 7 games, Lathan 12, Kelly 20, Richard 2)
Bradley's top 7 guys lost 38 games to injury or discipline (Brown 4, Dunson 29, DSE 5) - almost the exact same amount.....so sorry sycfan.....we were just as snake-bitten...but we've had it several years in a row...
LittleBrave
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So if all the Sycamores stay healthy, do you think you guys are good enough to finish in the top 5 in the Valley this season? New coach and all? ;-)
It could happen, but it will be tough. Marshall and Reed were big losses.
You still have pretty good guards in Carter, Kelly, and Printy. Much like us, the Syc's inside game will be the question mark, though we both have legit scorers in T. Brown and D. Lathan.
I see there are 4 RS freshmen on the roster. Any of them looking to make an impact?
Future Walk-On
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except you were losing and he was jacking threes before fouling out...
so it wasn't like SM's 31 :mrgreen:
sycamorefan
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He wasn't really jacking threes...people weren't guarding him at the line because he was killing them to get to the basket....maybe the loss has something to do with the 7 and a half healthy players we have....He was 5 for 7 from three and 6 of them were open shots according to more defined statistics....
sycamorefan
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Marshall and Reed towards the back end of the season were more of a problem than they were resources...reed jacked threes and was injured and Marshall couldn't pass the ball if he tried...I think with kelly at the point and a new center...our Center from JUCO is a man and as the promo's say, "I am Myles Walker, the destroyer of worlds." No I really dont expect him to be an offensive force but, we have needed a banger for a very long time....I think Mahurin And Odum are both going to be big contributors plus the freshman Kitchell will most likely play alot...he can rebound, shoot and has solid strong post moves....for braves fans as a freshman imagine him as the sophomore junior version of Jay Tunnell....
Nice promo for your new guys, but every team's fans think their guys will dominate the league. Myles Walker looks like he's got a nice physique and maybe Bradley could use a guy like him, but there must be a reason he only had offers from Indiana State and Middle Tennessee. He only averaged about 12 points and 6 rebounds in juco with a 48% FG percentage, and 53% FT percentage, not exactly "destroyer of worlds" numbers.
I think Mahurin and Kitchell will be a good players, but I think to expect them to be Jay Tunnel their first year is a stretch.
LittleBrave
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Hey - if you combine his %'s he's over 100%!!! ;-)
Oh yeah...Sammy was almost 150%, wasn't he.
sycamorefan
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Like I said I dont expect Walker to be much of an offensive force...just a banger that we have needed for quite sometime...
When I said Kitchell was a bit like Jay I mean his game, Jay his first two seasons didnt play out on the perimeter like he did in his last two....Kitchell will have a more complete game...more of an inside-outside game....
sycamorefan
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When did Sammy ever come into the conversation???? You are the guy who sits in the corner of the bar and says "yea...fight fight fight"
sycamorefan
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The importance of the guy needs to be taken into account...we missed Kelly who was supposed to be our heart and soul...Lathan was our fire...Marshall was our scorer I mean to be quite honest our talent is recovering but not to a great level yet...so when we miss great players for a length of time...we struggle...Also we finished tied in the MVC, you just won the seeding tiebreaker....
LittleBrave
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You're right Sycamorefan.
I was just having fun with some stats.
I guess nobody (besides BU fans) wants to hear about Sammy - after all, he's not even 1st team Valley.
However, Sammy is ALWAYS welcome on this board.
Agree. It might be too early to talk about MVC POY for 2011, but if Bradley can contend for the Valley title, there is a good chance Sammy would be in the running for POY.
Sammy is the #2 returning scorer in Valley games, right behind #1 Andrew Warren.-
http://www.mvc.org/mbb/stats/CONFONLY.HTM
And Taylor Brown is #4, giving Bradley 3 of the top 4 returning scorers from last year's MVC games. Also, Dodie Dunson's return gives Bradley a 4th player who averaged double digits in his last full season (10.1 ppg in 2008-2009).
Sammy is the #2 returning scorer in Valley games, right behind #1 Andrew Warren.-
http://www.mvc.org/mbb/stats/CONFONLY.HTM
And Taylor Brown is #4, giving Bradley 3 of the top 4 returning scorers from last year's MVC games. Also, Dodie Dunson's return gives Bradley a 4th player who averaged double digits in his last full season (10.1 ppg in 2008-2009).
houstontxbrave
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This upcoming Bradley season hinges on rebounding and fundamental defense. We have given up to many open looks and second, third etc possessions. Both have to stop for this team to be successful.
And success to me is challenging for the Valley title (1st or 2nd) and/or a Sunday appearence in St Louis.
wily coyote
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Houston, I couldn't agree more. Da Coach points out some of his poorer games and I'll give him that but remember he was a Freshmen. I would take Carmichael in a New Your second. If he stays healthy and in school ,he well could be the best big in the Valley for the next 3 years. I love his game. We have no one to stop him at this moment and its not looking like we will see Mo in a BU uniform this year.