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Wessler- Better days are not ahead
- Thread starter BradleyJD
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I don't know what you are referring to. Maybe another myth?
The decision was made by Pres. Broski, only after the entire process played out.
It's third party info listed on a BU website. I don't have the time, nor desire, to Google every source that BU cites and point you to it. Do it yourself if you like. I have no doubts about BU's quality. If you do then you should transfer to one of the schools on the list that I linked.
And yes, I was BU educated. I learned that names (like tulip) should be capitalized:lol:
Yes, you are right tulip should be capped. I prefer to lc it.
First off, I'm not having a freakin' cow. I thought it was obvious what I was saying is I wouldn't be so disappointed if I didn't get so excited after all the hype. Read the whole post T, and you'll see where I said I also contribute to the hype.
I for one lost a little respect for JBM when he stepped down as a trustee because his choice wasn't selected. Wasn't a sad day for me or many others when Jim Les was selected as coach. We all would have liked for things to have so far turned out better, but who's to say Wayne could have done any better.
Really, people still honestly say Wayne McClain would have been a good hire??? His basketball pedigree is no where near JL's yes, he was high school coach, so was CB. Wayne was only hired at U of I to get several highly ranked recruits from his school including his son. If Wayne was such a no-brainer hire, where is he now? Oh, right, the exact same job. But he is a killer recruiter right? Errr... I mean, U of I's recruiting was really weak until they brought in Jerrance Howard... SO maybe Wayne wasn't the amazing hire people act like he would have been. I've been lurking pretty much exclusively because the discussion has largely digressed into personal attacks that are not based on reason but occasionally a post like this compels me to post.
JL is not perfect, it is, indeed, time to take stock of the program. However, to act like KW hasn't been consistently anti-JL is ignorant, and to pretend WM would have this program in a better place is unfounded. I know as a recent grad, JL, even if for a short while, put BU Basketball back on the map for students, and he brought in an incredibly great group of guys. I'm not sure how much longer JL should be around, but I do think he was the right hire at the time and don't think he's the villain many here make him out to be. Sometimes reading this board is pretty disappointing...
Wessler - Better Days----
Wessler - Better Days----
Allow me to introduce some facts regarding the hiring of JL.
1. Brian Gregory dropped out when he learned that the salary & other compensation was far less than he could get elsewhere.
2. JBM was on the search committee. The committee was supposed to review applicants, narrow the list down, and recommend a final group of candidates to be interviewed.
3. While the committee was supposed to do thier job in an open-minded manner, JBM was a 1000% McCain supporter from the beginning and didn't really want to consider anyone else. As the process went along, things got
tense and bad on the committe and JBM finally took his marbles and went home when he didn't get his way. He apparently thought a resignation from the Trustees might turn things around but it didn't work. Its as simple as that!
4. The "book" at that time on WM at Illinois was not good based on what their people had to say.
5. Thru the years, JBM has been asked by several BU coaches if he could help in the recruiting process, when that was allowed by the NCAA. To my knowledge, he did not responded with help and was even critical of BU.
6. IMO while JBM is a wonderful judge and a great person in most areas, he looks at things regarding BU from a perspective that is sometimes controversial and not always helpful to BU.
Wessler - Better Days----
Allow me to introduce some facts regarding the hiring of JL.
1. Brian Gregory dropped out when he learned that the salary & other compensation was far less than he could get elsewhere.
2. JBM was on the search committee. The committee was supposed to review applicants, narrow the list down, and recommend a final group of candidates to be interviewed.
3. While the committee was supposed to do thier job in an open-minded manner, JBM was a 1000% McCain supporter from the beginning and didn't really want to consider anyone else. As the process went along, things got
tense and bad on the committe and JBM finally took his marbles and went home when he didn't get his way. He apparently thought a resignation from the Trustees might turn things around but it didn't work. Its as simple as that!
4. The "book" at that time on WM at Illinois was not good based on what their people had to say.
5. Thru the years, JBM has been asked by several BU coaches if he could help in the recruiting process, when that was allowed by the NCAA. To my knowledge, he did not responded with help and was even critical of BU.
6. IMO while JBM is a wonderful judge and a great person in most areas, he looks at things regarding BU from a perspective that is sometimes controversial and not always helpful to BU.
BradleyBrave
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Wayne would have been a bad hire then, and would be an even worse hire now.
Wizard- thanks for your input.
Usually we try to limit rumors regarding the hiring process, because so much of it was kept in secret.
However, because of how closely you were involved at that time, I appreciate your comments. Beside, everything you have said is now public knowledge to some extent. I believe the Judge even stated publically that he was for WM during the interview process.
Usually we try to limit rumors regarding the hiring process, because so much of it was kept in secret.
However, because of how closely you were involved at that time, I appreciate your comments. Beside, everything you have said is now public knowledge to some extent. I believe the Judge even stated publically that he was for WM during the interview process.
Dallas Brave
New member
In the words of Pogo, "We have met the enemy, and he is us."
Passed over and didn't even interview! That selection process was a total joke and gave BU a black eye with the coaching fraternity. It all was a dog and pony show just to give the impression they were looking hard when the decision to bring in inexperienced Jim Les had already been made.
Braves4Life
New member
You obviously don't listen to those involved or you can't read Mr. 32 Poster.
Fact is - BU needs a gut check. We've recruited some talented players but are we doing right by them? Are we giving them an environment in which they can grow and succeed? For me, that's the bottom line. Honestly I don't give a **** about the coaches - I want them and the institution to do right by the young people they recruit.