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News: John Wilkins files injunction against the NJCAA

tornado said:
duhhh...the final NJCAA ruling was - 11/4
http://www.pjstar.com/sports/x896789152/Wilkins-eligibility-appeal-denied

Wilkins' decision NOT to sign a LOI came after the NCAA LOI signing period began 11/11...
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/nli/nli

if you do the math properly, then there's plenty of time between Nov. 4 and Nov. 11 to seek out legal help and be in precise line with what Da Coach is saying,
and what somehow you keep manufacturing concerns and facts to doubt.
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I do math quite well... Statisitically speaking, of course.
 
tornado said:
duhhh...the final NJCAA ruling was - 11/4
http://www.pjstar.com/sports/x896789152/Wilkins-eligibility-appeal-denied

Wilkins' decision NOT to sign a LOI came after the NCAA LOI signing period began 11/11...
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/nli/nli

if you do the math properly, then there's plenty of time between Nov. 4 and Nov. 11 to seek out legal help and be in precise line with what Da Coach is saying,
and what somehow you keep manufacturing concerns and facts to doubt.
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Since you are the resident math whiz, maybe you can answer these questions:

1. Assuming that legal counsel was retained on 11/11, how many days after the retention of said counsel was it before an injunction request was actually filed with the court?

2. How many games were missed during that time frame?

3. How many days are there between the date when the injunction request was filed and the date of the corresponding hearing?
 
DoubleJayAlum said:
Since you are the resident math whiz, maybe you can answer these questions:

1. Assuming that legal counsel was retained on 11/11, how many days after the retention of said counsel was it before an injunction request was actually filed with the court?

2. How many games were missed during that time frame?

3. How many days are there between the date when the injunction request was filed and the date of the corresponding hearing?
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1. not sure why you pick date of 11/11, as he knew by 11/4 that his final appeal through NJCAA was denied, and it seem quite likely he sought legal help very shortly thereafter. In fact, there were reports at that time (11/4) that he had indeed already made up his mind to seek legal help.

I would assume when you walk into a lawyer's office, it would still take a few days and possibly even weeks before the lawyer can gather facts, read of other precedent and prepare the request for an injunction, but I don't know enough details to know that answer, although I am satisfied that getting an injunction filed within a month seems like it's a reasonable time span and not some sort of negligence or stupidity as you seem to hint.


2. Obviously Wilkins has missed all of Southeastern's games, but not sure how that can be avoided...the coach would certainly lose his job if he knowingly played ineligible players.
Since I am not sure we have any valid evidence of whether or when the injunction request is or will be filed, then I can only speculate on your question #3...that the legal system moves at it's own pace, and I suspect you'll hear experts say things like "you can't fight city hall" and "justice may be blind but it's awfully slow..."
Maybe if you know a great way to get the injunction filed pronto and get the desired results, then you should be in the lawyer-advising profession.
But there is evidence out there as to who Wilkins has consulted and who guided him to the legal help, and I am likewise satisfied that JW has done very well for himself.

Since I am a Bradley booster, I obviously can't give the kid money to help pay for his lawyer, but I will give my opinion -- and take it or leave it -- he is getting fine legal representation and if anyone can get him eligible, the guys working on it can.
 
tornado said:
Maybe if you know a great way to get the injunction filed pronto and get the desired results, then you should be in the lawyer-advising profession.
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Has it ever occurred to you that I am and that is why I am such a huge critic of the legal advice proffered so far?

By the way, I used the date of 11/11 to give the legal staff the benefit of the doubt. If, in fact, Wilkins retained counsel immediately after the adverse ruling was issued on 11/4 and said counsel is just now getting around to filing the injunction request, it is borderline malpractice IMO.
 
Of course it occurred to me,...
and I am confident he would not feel the need to check a message board to get more help
 
DoubleJayAlum said:
Has it ever occurred to you that I am and that is why I am such a huge critic of the legal advice proffered so far?

By the way, I used the date of 11/11 to give the legal staff the benefit of the doubt. If, in fact, Wilkins retained counsel immediately after the adverse ruling was issued on 11/4 and said counsel is just now getting around to filing the injunction request, it is borderline malpractice IMO.
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I am aware that you are an attorney.
But how in the world can you assert that JW has gotten lousy legal advice, when you don't have any knowledge of what that advice is, or the timeline of the happenings?

I have spoken to a source close to the Wilkins, and I can assure you, without revealing confidential information, that he has gotten great legal advice, and their actions have been in a timely manner. The reports in the news, and that you believe are true, are wrong and quite a bit outdated.
 
DoubleJayAlum said:
... In addition, I see no compelling legal reason whatsoever why failing to sign an LOI helps his case. One can't hide the fact that a scholarship offer was available. Failing to sign the LOI doesn't change this fact. If that is the kind of "great legal advice" that he is receiving, you and I define the adjective "great" differently.
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And I guess that's for the court/judge to decide? Not for you, me or anyone else. Then after it is over - we'll all find out whether it actually was "great legal advice". So let's wait and see how it plays out.
 
MacabreMob said:
And I guess that's for the court/judge to decide? Not for you, me or anyone else. Then after it is over - we'll all find out whether it actually was "great legal advice". So let's wait and see how it plays out.
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I agree with Mr. Mob on this one. Well put Mac.
 
I think doublejay AND everyone else IS waiting to see what the courts decide ...they have no choice.

Whats going on is a simple debate which will not effect the case or what happens one way or another.

Its just like the debates we have over starting lineups or players playing time....."lets leave THAT decision to the coach and his staff since none of us are coaches or close to the situation".....like whatever we discuss, opine about or scream for has ANY bearing what-so-ever on what will eventually take place.

So carry on guys with your Wilkins debate....at least for me....I love a good healthy debate/discussion.
 
georgethedog said:
I agree with Mr. Mob on this one. Well put Mac.
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GTD....don't you think if we all "waited" for things to play out we wouldn't have this board and all the fun that goes along with it. Seriously......whats wrong with a nice open discussion/debate.

I mean.....lets just wait until the season is over and then we'll all get together for one final recap. BORING. :)

Of course we'd all just opine about what JL SHOULD have done that year then someone would tell us "your NO coach, leave that stuff to JL and staff.....
 
dogsrus said:
GTD....don't you think if we all "waited" for things to play out we wouldn't have this board and all the fun that goes along with it. Seriously......whats wrong with a nice open discussion/debate.

I mean.....lets just wait until the season is over and then we'll all get together for one final recap. BORING. :)

Of course we'd all just opine about what JL SHOULD have done that year then someone would tell us "your NO coach, leave that stuff to JL and staff.....
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I think you should ask Mob first... He brought it up first and I was agreeing. Anyway, who said this board was fun???
 
georgethedog said:
Wouldn't that correspond with the dates he will be signing with _____________? He said he was going to wait until then, which is his option, but I don't remember him making any remarks such as "I'm still firmly committed to going to Bradley".
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Huh?

Here is that last report on what John Wilkins has said-
http://www.bradleyhoops.com/homepage/x1792920673/Wilkins-files-injunction-against-NJCAA

Read the last paragraph-
"Because of the pending lawsuit, Wilkins chose not to sign a National Letter of Intent with the Braves. But he has reiterated his intent to come to BU, hoping to enroll next summer once he receives his associate's degree from SCC."
 
My bad. I thought he also said he is exploring other options or something to that effect.
 
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